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    Written by a co-worker. She's actually battling cancer right now so she's super scared.

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    Here’s a history lesson for everyone on both sides of the political divide. I think it’s important that we understand the truth, especially come November when it’s time to vote. Forgive the length. But, hey we all have time on our hands to read, right?

    In December 2013, an 18-month-old boy in Guinea was bitten by a bat. Then there were five more fatal cases. When Ebola spread out of the Guinea borders into neighboring Liberia and Sierra Leone in July 2014, President Obama activated the Emergency Operations Center at the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta. The CDC immediately deployed CDC personnel to West Africa to coordinate a response that included vector tracing, testing, education, logistics and communication.

    Altogether, the CDC, under President Obama, trained 24,655 medical workers in West Africa, educating them on how to prevent and control the disease before a single case left Africa or reached the U.S.

    Working with the U.N. and the World Health Organization President Obama ordered the re-routing of travelers heading to the U.S. through certain specific airports equipped to handle mass testing.

    Back home in America, more than 6,500 people were trained through mock outbreaks and practice scenarios. That was done before a single case hit America.

    Three months after President Obama activated this unprecedented response, on September 30, 2014, we got our first case in the U.S.. That man had traveled from West Africa to Dallas, Texas and had somehow slipped through the testing protocol. He was immediately detected and isolated. He died a week later. Two nurses who tended to him contracted Ebola and later recovered. All the protocols had worked. It was contained.

    The Ebola epidemic could have easily become a pandemic. But thanks to the actions of our government under Obama, it never did. Those three cases were the ONLY cases of ebola in our country because Obama did what needed to be done three months before the first case.

    Ebola is even more contagious than Covid-19. If he Obama not done these things, millions of Americans would have died awful painful deaths like something out of a horror movie (if you’ve ever seen how Ebola kills, it’s horrific).
    It’s ironic that BECAUSE President Obama did these things - we forget that he did them, because the disease never reached our shores.

    Now the story of Covid 19 and Trump’s response that we know about so far:

    Before anyone even knew about the disease (even in China) Trump disbanded the pandemic response team that Obama had put in place. He cut funding to the CDC. And he cut our contribution to the World Health Organization (WHO).

    Trump fired Rear Admiral Timothy Ziemer, the person on the National Security Council in charge of stopping the spread of infectious diseases before they reach our country - a position created by the Obama administration.

    When the Outbreak started in China, Trump assumed it was China’s problem and sent no research, supplies or help of any kind. We were in a trade war.

    In January 2020, he received a briefing from our intelligence organizations that the outbreak was much worse than China was admitting and that it would definitely hit our country if something wasn’t done to prevent it. Trump did nothing.

    When the disease spread to Europe, the World Health Organization offered a boatload of tests to the United States. Trump turned them down, saying private companies here would make the tests “better” if we needed them. But he never ordered U.S. companies to make tests and they had no profit motive to do so on their own.

    According to scientists at Yale and several public university medical schools, when they asked for permission to start working on our own testing protocol and potential treatments or vaccines, they were denied by Trump’s FDA.

    When Trump knew about the first case in the United States he did nothing. It was just one case and the patient was isolated. When doctors and scientists started screaming in the media that this was a mistake, Trump claimed it was a “liberal hoax” conjured up to try to make him “look bad after impeachment failed.”

    The next time Trump spoke of Covid-19, we had 64 confirmed cases but Trump went before microphones and lied to the America public that we only had 15 cases “and pretty soon that number will be close to zero.” All while the disease was spreading. He took no action to get more tests.

    What Trump did do is stop flights from China from coming here. This was too late and accomplished nothing according to scientists and doctors. By then the disease was worldwide and was already spreading exponentially in the U.S. by Americans, not Chinese people as Trump would like you to believe.

    As of the moment I’m posting this, the number and f CONFIRMED CASES in the U.S. grows exponentially each day. The actual number is unknown due to lack of test availability. Why don’t we have enough tests? Remember back when Trump turned down the tests from the W.H.O. and prevented our own universities from developing them? Remember back when Trump had cut the funding to the CDC?

    Every time Mr. Trump goes on camera and blames the previous administration for the mess we are now in. He has no one to blame but himself.

    I hear Republican pundits try to put the blame on China. And they are correct - after all, the disease started there. And the Chinese government handled it poorly and dishonestly. So it’s fair to blame the government of China for the EXISTENCE of the Covid-19 virus. BUT THAT MISSES THE POINT. Trump let the disease invade the U.S. And continues to make the same mistake time and time again - waiting until it’s too late to take action.

    Hundreds of thousands of Americans are expected to die of Covid 19 because of his ineptitude. Because of his lackadaisical response. Because of his ego - bragging about his ratings. He finds this loss of life acceptable. I hope you tell him in November that this is unacceptable.

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    • Preach on!nb
    • a reason to not vote for trump is not a reason to vote for biden.colin_s
    • On election day it will benb
    • uh, yes, yes it is right nowscruffics
    • this would have been way better if just stated the facts, with zero spin on who to vote for.inteliboy
    • sorry by better I mean cutting through to the trump morons.inteliboy
    • I'm sure the Chinese would have a thing or two to say about Team America World Police bursting on the scene.monNom
    • China wouldn't let Americans come help or study the disease early on. They went to great lengths to downplay it, including silencing their own doctors.monNom
    • This isn't a trump thing. EVERYONE has it. It's very unlikely that Obama would have done any better, or any different.monNom
    • ^ I'd say every single sitting president before Trump would have done better.inteliboy
    • This is a TRUMP thing. He fired Ziemer, disbanded the response team, cut funding to the CDC & WHO, refused test kits, etc. He has talked about his ratings tho.brandonp
    • You're out of your mind if you think China would let the US in there like '13 Africa. China let nearly 5M people flee during their outbreak... why can't some...PonyBoy
    • ... of you actually place some fucking blame where it belongs... this constant 'Trump's fault' shit will GET HIM REELECTED you fucking twits... staaahp.PonyBoy
    • ^ Yup. Also, blame will not make this better. It feeds the cycle of Pro & Anti Trump blowhards.DRIFTMONKEY
    • Blame is due, ffs... especially the blame Trump actually deserves... just be fucking honest about it. People lied, muffled scientists & journalists...PonyBoy
    • ...to ignore that reality and the continued lies that follow it seems a bit retarded... but hey... TRUMP!!Where's utopian w/that seething Trump gif?PonyBoy
    • >> https://www.qbn.com/…sted
    • lol cool story bro...robotron3k
    • Worth pointing out that the U.S. ALREADY had pandemic experts working inside China, that was part of the team that Trump fired.yuekit
    • https://www.japantim…yuekit
    • I'll never understand the weird affirmative action Trump gets from some of you. His response was almost laughably bad, like a parody of how not to handle it.yuekit
    • Including joking that it was "just the flu" which was a meme going around at the time.yuekit
    • You mistake a request that the entire story be told accurately ...as Trump affirmation... I'm not sure how we work around that.PonyBoy
    • I don't know that it's affirmative action. It's just a tired argument. Obama isn't president now. Nor could he be. You might as well say SupermanmonNom
    • Nothing special about what Obama did, it's just the minimum you would expect from a semi-competent leader.yuekit
    • And that fact that ALL of the leaders of the world are doing poorly with this should tell you something.monNom
    • *...as Trump affirmative action...PonyBoy
    • I wouldn't say that all leaders are doing poorly. Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, Vietnam, Hong Kong did an excellent job (to be fair they had more experience withyuekit
    • past epidemics like SARS). It remains to be seen if it's going to get as bad as New York or Italy in every country.yuekit
    • A lot of leaders did do a bad job and react too slow, but that's exactly why you don't want someone like Trump running things at a time like this.yuekit
    • The situation is extremely challenging, hundreds of thousands are going to die and many of our economic futures will be impacted. And for some reason weyuekit
    • have to go through this with a total idiot in charge who will almost certainly make things much worse.yuekit
    • South Korea done an exceptional job. Vibrant democracy universal healthcare, free testing, even for illegal immigrants with no danger of being reported.Khurram
    • There's degrees of incompetent and Trump is in a league of his own with the absolute mess he made of this. Your equivocations are laughable.Khurram
    • The political weaponization of this should be ignored. It will only create more problems. Stop looking for a political messiah that is omnipotentdeathboy
    • If u want such beliefs go pray in a church. Hell corn ethanol if u want to talk a fuck up. Problem is people thinking they know how to run shitdeathboy
    • When its impossible. Chinese leaders withhold info for politics. Maybe if people, and parasites playing the savior's, could be real for a second and realize thedeathboy
    • Role is by people motivated mostly by power and concede in thinking they know what is bestdeathboy
    • “Problem is people thinking they know how to run shit” sure is mate. I’m here in the UK and Boris is just as incompetent as Trump. Is that what you meant?!Ianbolton
    • The alternative, do nothing and let nature take its own course. How idiotic.Khurram
    • Ian of course. Anyone u think is aces is probably also shit. The alternative khurram I do not know what is bestdeathboy
    • I'm pretty fuckin smart. But I find with new data each day and balancing it's legitness changes my perspectivedeathboy
    • I can say without a doubt I have no fuckin idea of the outcome of this in global markets or even as far as illness. I do believe though countries with leveragedeathboy
    • Like us can print themselves out of crisis. But will change many g7 relationships and developing nations. All curious if this will damage reliance in global supdeathboy
    • Uply chains. Will it create more backup let Cally and how exchange rates fare. No one man even with more knowledge that available can predict what will happendeathboy
    • It's best to minimize power and broaden competition. The best way to weather is let business and ppl decidedeathboy
    • So.e cities and areas probably will decide terribly but clearly they need to be filled. Others will innovate and thrivedeathboy
    • "Pretty fucking smart" bwahaha mmm okay!Khurram
    • It's subjective. Based on what u think is smart I can make that statement :) Maybe what u think is smart isnt.deathboy
    • Think about it how does onr measure "smartness" same as how does a clock measure time? It in its relationship to othersdeathboy
    • A clocks objective reference is another clock. Get it?deathboy
    • But of all things I said it's funny u gravitated to that. It's an emotional response vs all other academic ones u could have haddeathboy
    • Why not say your which response u would suggest out of a leaders mouth with all intents of also effects on evonomydeathboy
    • Personally I think u have no thoughts of such things unless provided with emotional stimulus from varying media. You should try thinking for yourself sometimedeathboy
    • It's quite fun thinking for yourselfdeathboy
    • The fact that you have to preface what you say: "I'm smart dammit!" Who you trying to convince? LolKhurram
    • I get what you're saying though. You're smart relative to stupid people. "Pretty fucking smart"Khurram
    • LOL ya if smart is relative. why did you even bother bringing it up "I'm pretty fuckin smart"pango
    • the fact khurram u still focus on that... pango the same... the point is still flying over your heads. which also reinforces everything i said..deathboy
    • my point is do you think 1 man/woman/nonbinary can fix shit? Do they posess omnipotence of some sort. The idea of looking for gods amongst men is as silly asdeathboy
    • gods. Its a partisan, probably click bait, piece, advocating distrust in one god and pushing towards any upstart. No suggestion of what would be betterdeathboy
    • historically its the type of a post from a demographic of easy manipulation and low intelligence. these things are not good.deathboy
    • dont focus on my intelligence focus on who you think is capable to choose a path and on what information that changes so fast. what is it you expect?deathboy
    • that is the point. Not about partisan bullshit or pointing finers but the culture that hopes for these god like men to give them salvation in times of crisis.deathboy
    • if i didnt make that clear before im sorry i thought it was obvious.deathboy
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