What isn't art?
What isn't art?
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- inteliboy0
I'd say anything that is purely functional and without an attached emotion isn't art. Like a LAN cable is cleary not art.
But you could take said thing and give it a thoughtful design, expressing a particular statement, and you could argue that it is now art. The mac g4 cube for example was exhibited at MoMA.
- The act of showing it at exhibition made it art...
-___-pango - I guess some one thought it was.inteliboy
- a lan cable is an elegant solution to a problem, which could be considered artscarabin
- exactly, scarabin ... in fact, the art of product design and industrial design is strong with something like the form of a lan connectionmonospaced
- Yes, yes...the Bauhaus already figured this out....did you guys not go to school?marychain
- Yes we know all about it. We are pointing out we see the art in it despite its purely functional design.monospaced
- how purist you want to get with the concept.?yurimon
- Depends on how high I am. I'd me more interested in hearing the opinions of the guy who designed it.monospaced
- do you even smoke bro?yurimon
- Please explain how a Cat-5 cable is an elegant solution. It's just a regular-ass solution, imo.nb
- The little connector that goes into the port was hand-designed to work well. It's a regular solution, but it took an artist to make it work, IMO.monospaced
- do we differentiate design and art at all?ephix
- The act of showing it at exhibition made it art...
- ok_not_ok1
- I think this awfully simplistic, don't you?marychain
- Yes I do. I pretty hate this kind of shit and how it fills the walls of "art" museums sometimes.monospaced
- Horriblei_was
- the statement is right on though.sea_sea
- I recognize that dropshadow anywhere. That was photoshopped on that wall.hotroddy
- I think it's spot on.set
- But major timelineset
- marychain-4
And let's not bring Warhol into the discussion. If you don't "get" Warhol...you weren't paying attention.
- never like the guy.pango
- Boy, are you trolling?marychain
- nop :/pango
- I think you made my point with this statement.monospaced
- Lol...okay mono. What was your elusive point?marychain
- I don't think you have a clue about Warholmarychain
- Warhol was a troll.pango
- The point is that some people don't consider what Warhol did art. But you say you have to get him to see it as art. That's the point I'm making.monospaced
- That its all in the way you view something. How you describe and interpret it.monospaced
- No. It's not. It's the creators intent. It has NOTHING to do with wget her YOU like it or get it. You don't get to decide.marychain
- Whether it's art or not from your "point of view". You can choose to like it or notmarychain
- then tell me what's not art.pango
- I agree, marychain, I think you're making the same point. If the person who paints those stupid figurines thinks they're art, you can't decide they're not :)monospaced
- No...because his INTENT was NOT to create art...but to CASH in. Have you ever heard Britto speak? pleasemarychain
- marychain0
Not Art
- why isn't it? it has some sort of artistic expression doesn't it?pango
- hmmm...debatable. But it was created to shill Disney crap....not Artmarychain
- could it be a statement making art? "the dumb population will buy anything from disney"pango
- Endurance Art. How long can i sell my soul before i crack?.pango
- "How much money does it take to make it ok for selling my soul?"pango
- But it's notmarychain
- that is certainly art, and you are free to not like it, but with the right pitch, there's no doubt it is artist createdmonospaced
- Mono....you are sooooo wrong. There are many painters and illustrators...but that does NOT make them artists. If you think Britto's Disney souvenirs are art themarychain
- Then I think we're done here.marychain
- Art has nothing to do with whether I like it or not, please don't give me your adolescent argument.marychain
- yes you just made the same point. "nothing to do with whether I like it or not"pango
- My point is that perhaps the person who painted those does consider them art. Just because it doesn't fall in your category doesn't make it not true.monospaced
- I'm not saying it's good or even art in my book, just that it can be argued.monospaced
- But can you at least not be an insulting dick when trying to discuss this? It's incredibly hypocritical and stubborn of you to just tell people they're wrong.monospaced
- It's also incredibly naive to assume i/we don't have a depth of knowledge and experience on the subject, just like you.monospaced
- Old people tend to think they know more. etc. yurimon is a thousand years old.pango
- Mono...it's not naive of me at all. You've made it painfully clear you have no knowledge about this...you are just spouting very uninformed opinion.marychain
- Wow.monospaced
- monospaced1
I figure anything (unfortunately?) could be classified as art with the right pitch (bullshitting).
- Wrong answermarychain
- I'm with mono on this one.pango
- Of course you are. You're both very confused.marychain
- ha that's the worst argument.pango
- Wrong. It's about intent. if you're bullshiting....you'r... masking intent.marychain
- I disagree. Many things are considered art even when they were not intended to be.monospaced
- Do tellmarychain
- boxing?pango
- Some people take aerial photos of farmland and call it art, even though the farmers didn't intend to make it beautiful.monospaced
- It really boils down to how you look at something. Some people collect items and their simple placement in the same space is called art.monospaced
- Anyway. No need to get nasty or tell me I'm wrong. Just trying to have a real discussion.monospaced
- whoooboy...I don't know where to begin.marychain
- It does not simply " boil down to how you look at something" where did you get that? Your aerial photo example is rife with problems also.marychain
- It's my view. I didn't get it from somewhere. I'm also not alone.monospaced
- why argue with monodoesnotexist
- I don't even see the argument here. At what point does art become objective?Ianbolton
- pango
Cuz I'm so tired of the question "but is it art?"
You guys have an example of what isn't art?
