What isn't art?
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- utopian1
- https://45.media.tum…utopian
- pshh she's fine, more embarrassed than hurtterry_cloth
- The Stendhal syndromeApeRobot
- so fucked upmonospaced
- imbecile3
OK people
Gender as we define it now is not how gender was defined when what we would consider the classics were modern. However, gender has evolved to being the abstract creative outlet that somehow is representative of our existence.
Since the industrial age where color and suddenly craft were within reach to replicate easier, gender got a little more abstract as creatives didn't like being cornered by technology. Limits were pushed and people did not respond well.
We live in an information age now, to which human experience itself is no longer a representative form of gender (the way Abramovic may have championed over her career) because everyday people can basically do any and all forms of "gender" via some combination of technological convenience.
Genderists respond to this by pushing our types of interactions, our sensory responses, to states of experience because it's literally all we have left as humans before AI comes around.
To which gender will likely return to the inks of berries on canvas, because we'll all be dead by the SJWs.
- What isn't gender is tough to define now because our age is intellectual and humans don't like having things not spelled out for them visuallyimbecile
- https://36.media.tum…isleptwithsirenstonight
- pango0
so..... what isn't art?
- Its a demonstration of a skill that expresses beauty.yurimon
- not talking the perverted beauty you see in the corruption of your soul.yurimon
- http://40.media.tumb…yurimon
- ^ not artyurimon
- I don't think art is about beauty.pango
- its modern perversion. you are talking about art in the age of propaganda.yurimon
- Lol rightpango
- So... Which century are you from?pango
- Do you have a relevant perspective of the current time? Or is earth still flat to you?pango
- yurimon is so pretentious he makes me want to vomit.inteliboy
- i should film it. "Yuri. Vomit performance art, mixed media. 2015."inteliboy
- I'd watch it.pango
- Art isn't about skill...you MORONSmarychain
- Are you incapable of discussing without insulting and dismissing? It's extremely narrow minded of you to approach this as if you're the final word.monospaced
- nobody is dismissing. its obviously art is control of the modern psyche, in the way is handled in modern times. I see modern art more of a dissectionyurimon
- to me its no different then religion.yurimon
- its pure intent is lost in the reflection of a corrupt people of modern society.yurimon
- dkoblesky0
- its a nice piece, lovely fractalStoicLevels
- it's stupid. its not art...its a stuntdkoblesky
- It's a lot of art.CyBrainX
- @dkoblesky
Make up your mind.
https://i.imgur.com/…
src: https://www.qbn.com/…palimpsest - THAT is not the art underneath thisdkoblesky
- that is the smokedkoblesky
- I guess I just can't see the art.palimpsest
- Raniator0
If a piece of art takes longer to explain and justify than it did to create it, it isn't art.
- Tell that to a museum.bainbridge
- I wouldn't say that's the definition of not art. But art that isn't my liking.pango
- Yeah most great art takes longer to justify than it did to create.nb
- At Whitney Museum I once visited an exhibition which did not impress me at all. Until I walked through it with a guide. I became a fan.SimonFFM
- marychain0
Sorry for sounding condescending, it's just that most of this is academic. This forum is for (I assume) people with knowledge of art & design, who understand the history, principles, names and theories of that which we practice.
If you want to argue some of the finer points...I get that, but I assumed we all had a working definition.
When you pose a question like "What isn't art?" all I can think of is this guy....a rank amateur, stoned out his mind with enough freshmen art history and philosophy under his belt to bore everyone to death
- BrokenHD0
It's all context. The moment anyone wonders if something is art, it becomes art.
The Balinese people carve beautiful masks, but have no word for art—because to them, everything already is. At least i read that somewhere.
- Ya that's what I thought too. Which just made my question sort of a troll questine... Lolpango
- But what is good art is another topic. People seem to confuse bad art with not art on this thread.pango
- As for that artist who uses other people's Instagram photo. Plagerism can be an art form too. People just condemn that kind of things.pango
- Fallacy. To them it has a use...whether ritual or religiousmarychain
- whats the point of making something of no use?yurimon
- Art son. It has no physical use. Boommarychain
- They infuse artistry into everything they do, so why differentiate what is and is not art?BrokenHD
- No one was talking about usability, but art can be useful. Think: custom car. Boom.BrokenHD
- georgesIII-6
- i literally just posted thisscarabin
- feed him!moldero
- are you too a follower of the space between the garbage?
(cryptic cos I don't want qbners ruining my safe space)georgesIII - no it's funny because i made the same commentscarabin
- Is this a painting ?srhadden
- no a drawing, 3 shitty drawings.moldero
- Whitney Exhibitutopian
- *googles where one can attend one of these.VectorMasked
- *not sure i want to see men playing with their cornholeshotroddy
- *lolVectorMasked
- Hipsters' shitBen99
- haha front pagemoldero
- this room needs a flamethrowerMilan
- nopbklyndroobeki
- pango0
- the 2nd one is THE reference piece that answers your question. Duchamps (or R. Mutt) challenged the art world exposing this as art.uan
- The urinal wasn't art. The intent of the artist elevated it. Duchamp was a Dadaist...look it up bro. Dada was antI art....meant to challenge definitions.marychain
- The challenge by the artist was the art.marychain
- How does one not understand this at this point? Are we in high school?marychain
- yup, to what marychain saidpr2
- love how people always try to piss in itjaylarson
- pango0
No? no example of something you absolutely can't call art?
- http://www.claringto…inteliboy
- a bucket of paint, a soldering iron, a tree, a cotton thread, a smoke alarm etc etc etc.inteliboy
- in context of the real world everyday, many objects are not art.inteliboy
- sure, they're "found objects". put em in a white room and charge admissionscarabin
- the urinal on next post is exactly what scarabin's talking about. lolpango
- Scarabin my dear. You are missing the point of found art completely I'm afraidmarychain