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- yurimon0
- Who is we? You got a cosmologist in your pocket? lol continueZOOP
- There are other planets with conditions similar to Earth. They're just not walking distance.ukit2
- This trailer screams "American Exceptionalism"riskunlogic
- And that cheesy song at the end... *pukesriskunlogic
- Morning_star-1
ESP Update
I know how you all love a bit of paranormal science. I posted a link to the DailyGrail a few weeks ago regarding the testing of an autistic child who showed outstanding ESP abilities under incredibly strict scientific conditions. It was met with the expected scoffing from the usual voices.
The paper that the Neuroscientist Dr Dianne Hennesy wrote detailing the experiments and results is about to be published. It is interesting to say the least.
http://dianehennacypowell.com/ev…
There is a Skeptiko podcast interview with Diane Hennesy here that, even if you have already made up your mind about it, is well worth a listen.
http://www.skeptiko.com/257-dian…
Is this solid proof of ESP, thoughts?
- Morning_star0
^
Consciousness studies are the thorn in the materialist/atheist side. More often than not the theories, debates, scientific papers etc are swept under the carpet with claims of pseudoscience by the materialist scientific establishment. The universe(s) should be explored/studied free from existing dogma and prejudice.- Not a thorn. A challenge. You act as if ANYONE anywhere has an answer. The bible doesn't.monospaced
- AT LEAST scientists are TRYING to figure it out unlike religious retards who gave up 2000 years afo.monospaced
- You need to get over your science vs religion obsession. Science has its own problems without bringing the fucking religious into it.Morning_star
- religious into it. Even when science does have a glimmer of an answer the dogmatic materialist scupper the debate. Morons.Morning_star
- Moronic to the point of faith.Morning_star
- science came from the the old religion.yurimon
- i would say instead that both science and religion stem from human curiosity. religion was just our first attempt at answering things. an admirable attempt but ultimately wrong.scarabin
- things. an admirable attempt but ultimately wrong. its only use now is in helping us understand the internal, rather than the externalscarabin
- external.scarabin
- the mind speaks in symbols, the universe in mathscarabin
- YOU brought religion into it, Morning_star, by saying it was a thorn in the atheists side. Which it isn't.monospaced
- So your position is one that claims we are biological robots and Consciousness is an illusion?Morning_star
- yes, it's that we are biological machines and consciousness is an amazing result of biologymonospaced
- mostly because there's no evidence for any other explanation, except "it must be magic"monospaced
- but really because neuroscience has explained it extremely wellmonospaced
- "Materialist" You are so focused on picking that fight, but I've never heard a good explanation of what it actually means to be non-materialistukit2
- "non-materialist." Are you saying it can't be measured by humans, and if so how would we ever prove or disprove it?ukit2
- and just because it can't be measures is the most stupid reason for assuming it's supernaturalmonospaced
- "science can't explain it, therefore: god" is idioticmonospaced
- You really need to stop this religious obsession. You're the one that keeps making the leap to god. All I'm suggesting is that to claim that we understand the complete nature of the universe is ridiculous. Especially in the light of quantum theory, dark energy and matter, neither of which adhere to the current model that articulates what we claim to know' about the universe.Morning_star
- to claim that we understand the complete nature of the universe is ridiculous. Especially in the light of quantum theory, dark energy and matter, neither of which adhere to the current model that articulates what we claim to know' about the universe.Morning_star
- energy and matter, neither of which adhere to the current model that articulates what we claim to know' about the universe.Morning_star
- Universe.Morning_star
- derp, science doesn't claim to have it all figured out, and science is still not a belief system ;)monospaced
- It does though, that's the point.Morning_star
- haha, scientists would be the first to acknowledge they don't have it all figured out. What do you think they spend their time on?ukit2
- The scientific establishment will not even entertain the discussion of science that doesn't conform to the current materialist paradigm. TED is a prime example.Morning_star
- paradigm. TED is a prime example of this.
Morning_star - you couldn't be more wrong... the MOST $ in science is being poured into what we don't understandmonospaced
- there is no theory on matter and existence that anyone conforms to, just the LHC and the like working on itmonospaced
- uan0
N is the force of Earth's gravity on a mass of about 102 g = (1⁄9.81 kg).
(N: The newton is the International System of Units derived unit of force).
- Morning_star-2
Yesterday, BBC Radio 4. More stuff scientists haven't got a fucking clue about.
In our time: Melvyn Bragg and his guests discuss dark matter, the mysterious and invisible substance which is believed to make up most of the Universe. Today astronomers and particle physicists are still fascinated by the search for dark matter and the question of what it is.
- No shit? We don't even know what is gravity is beyond modelling its effects.detritus
- Trouble with people like you is you misconstrue science as being some god-like absolute that presupposes it has answers to everything.detritus
- It's people who believe shit like that who fuck everything up for the rest of us, who are happy trying to wade through the gloom, knowing our ignorance.detritus
- It's OK to say 'we don't know'. Scientists seem to have a BIG problem saying this. Which does point to some fundamental issues with science that need addressing.Morning_star
- I said that <Morning_star
- The Scientific community is based on being able to say they don't know. That's what DRIVES the whole thing. Figuring things out.monospaced
- bklyndroobeki1
I've been geeking out on Degrasse's talk radio show, loving their reaction to question @ 33:28
- BaskerviIle1
correct, it's not a belief system, it's a method of asking and answering questions, a search for knowledge.
It's a flexible, evidence-based belief system at a push
- lol @ 'correct'
I've never met someone who knew the nature of reality. Until now.set - (Until now)set
- I'm just being a cunt, I hear ya.set
- I was replying to the original poster, not you ;)BaskerviIle
- Ah, I thought you were the original posterset
- lol @ 'correct'
- Morning_star0
@ukit2
For a start don't compare Dean Radin with Deepak Chopra. Chopra is a gobby rent-a-quote who damages his cause every time he opens his mouth.
Dean Radins work is, in my opinion, truly scientific. Whilst he may be exploring concepts and theories that are not mainstream he is honest, follows scientific protocol, published papers in peer reviewed scientific journals. He is about as far from Chopra as you could possibly get.
Check out his work with The Global Consciousness Project, Action at a distance etc. I'll challenge you to find fault with his conclusions.
This is worth a read.
http://deanradin.blogspot.co.uk/…
"A great way to sell books, but if there was any real application to his theories it would have been apparent a long time ago." - Why? Can you tell me what a real application of the discovery of the Higgs Boson would be?- Fault in his conclusion. All tests negative.monospaced
- Cool, do you have a link to the analysis.Morning_star
- yurimon0
http://www.theoccidentalobserver…
How Einstein Ruined Physics
- this says einstein's fame is a jewish conspiracy. do you even read this shit?scarabin
- not all it says but, what if its true..yurimon
- i think that's a little paranoid but i don't doubt he published ideas from other sources. just like edison, fleming, galileo, alexander graham bell, etc didscarabin
- alexander graham bell, etc didscarabin
- yurimon-1
http://www.sciencedaily.com/rele…
How We Support Our False Beliefs
- son0
Julian's research at Glidden changed direction in 1940 when he began work on synthesizing progesterone, estrogen, and testosterone from the plant sterols stigmasterol and sitosterol, isolated from soybean oil by a foam technique he invented and patented.
In 1990 he was elected to the National Inventors Hall of Fame, and in 1999 his synthesis of physostigmine was recognized by the American Chemical Society as “one of the top 25 achievements in the history of American chemistry.”
- Morning_star-1
^ I absolutely agree.
It always troubles me that the atheist/materialist view is that science is a valid and logical replacement for religion. It isn't. Most of us understand the issues/constrictions with the faith required for religion but there are similar issues on the very edges of scientific discovery.
- the only people who think science is a "replacement" for religion are the religious people, btwmonospaced
- Fact is, scientific discoveries are so discredting to biblical/religious tenants that it is often seen as the exact oppositemonospaced
- when in fact, it isn't... science just reveals the measurable truth about reality, while religion barely speculatesmonospaced
- "Valid", "logical", "religion".
That's a mess right there.MrT
- ZOOP0
I reject the barbarian predisposition. I refuse to live with my primary drive being eternal preservation of my existence, based on fear of the unknown.
- uan0
pretty cool use of drones
- son0
- not enough melanin?scarabin
- no see...thats your issueson
- superior genetics sure hasn't helped you much. got anything else? a personality maybe?scarabin
- yet you're inquiring from someone thats that low?son
- accomplished anything lately with all your melanin?scarabin
- you keep replying...something is workingson
- did it help you "run that shit" and "get that paper"?scarabin
- you're a dung beetle that i'm controlling...your responses are receipts...so yes & yes beeeeyitchson
- always with the beetle shot. as if it weren't lame enough the first time. what can i say, i'm attracted to shitscarabin