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- monospaced0
That's just an illusion. Perfectly projected by satan himself, from hell which is just a few planets over, onto a screen to trick astronomers. Science bitches. Believe.
- Idiot. Everybody knows hell is other people.Morning_star
- What does that even mean, and how is that possible if Satan is making fossils and stars look old?monospaced
- I like Satan, he's very misunderstood. Lucifer on the other hand is a right cunt.Morning_star
- wordmonospaced
- Morning_star0
How do they decide what a crank is?
- it's overwhelmingly obvious to anyone even slightly educated and rationalmonospaced
- I don't understand how you could possibly be so certain that YOU understand the universe enough to make that assessment.Morning_star
- Or are you just following the crowd?
Morning_star - I don't claim to. But I have some very trusted sources. Better than trusting pedophiles who worship a naked man on a stick.monospaced
- You (or your 'contacts') seem to be under the delusion that it's a black and white argument. And that the whole of humanity has chosen either Science or Christianity. They're not even comparable, let alone the only possible positions to hold. Dumb as a brick.Morning_star
- chosen either Science or Christianity. They're not even comparable, let alone the only possible positions to hold. Dumb as a brick.Morning_star
- as a brick.Morning_star
- Exactly, they're not comparable because religion is a belief system and Science isn't.monospaced
- My "contacts" are the great scientific community that posts its results publiclymonospaced
- I agree to an extent. You're right about religion, but science can be as dogmatic as religion, especially those that insist the only universe is a materialist one.Morning_star
- only universe is a materialist one.Morning_star
- note to self: take morning_star off kegger list.josimar
- I don't know if that's good or bad : ) What/Who/Where is a Kegger?Morning_star
- Oh - "A party at which a keg of beer is present._ - That's a shame, i get the BEST drugs. ; )Morning_star
- Pardon me internet argument, but i have a small contribution, when science adopts dogma, which it often does, it has failedmrrgl
- Inspired by recent reading about Miasma theory which dominated study of disease, for the last 50 years right in the face of contradictory evidencemrrgl
- face of clear evidence to the contrary (contagion theory). Point is, 50 years, best biologists in the world laughed off evidencemrrgl
- that (many) disease are caused by other living creatures, regarded it as unworthy of consideration
mrrgl - that being said, that it can happen on a huge scale in a way that the people involved have no clue how stupid they're beingmrrgl
- being... present scientific evidence, repeatable experiments, data, records... we've had about 50 years of organized research to prove mental/physical extended knowledge stuff, and I think that we can move forward at this pointmrrgl
- move forward at this pointmrrgl
- being... present scientific evidence, repeatable experiments, data, records... we've had about 50 years of organized research to prove mental/physical extended knowledge stuff, and I think that we can move forward at this pointmrrgl
- organized research to prove mental/physical extended knowledge stuff, and I think that we can move forward at this pointmrrgl
- Lol wut?monospaced
- sarahfailin0
Sir Karl Raimund Popper CH FBA FRS[4] (28 July 1902 – 17 September 1994) was an Austrian-British[5] philosopher and professor at the London School of Economics.[6] He is generally regarded as one of the greatest philosophers of science of the 20th century.[7][8] Popper is known for his rejection of the classical inductivist views on the scientific method, in favour of empirical falsification: A theory in the empirical sciences can never be proven, but it can be falsified, meaning that it can and should be scrutinized by decisive experiments. If the outcome of an experiment contradicts the theory, one should refrain from ad hoc manoeuvres that evade the contradiction merely by making it less falsifiable. Popper is also known for his opposition to the classical justificationist account of knowledge which he replaced with critical rationalism, "the first non justificational philosophy of criticism in the history of philosophy".[9] In political discourse, he is known for his vigorous defence of liberal democracy and the principles of social criticism that he came to believe made a flourishing "open society" possible. His political philosophy embraces ideas from all major democratic political ideologies and attempts to reconcile them: social democracy, classical liberalism and conservatism, more explicitly so in his later years.[10]
- Morning_star0
The results were jaw-dropping, with 'hits' such as 100% accuracy on two random numbers, one eight digits and the other nine; 60 to 100% accuracy on three of the five-letter nonsense words; 100% accuracy on six out of twelve equations with 15 to 19 digits each; and between 81 to 100% accuracy on sentences of between 18 and 35 letters. The video and audio surveillance showed no evidence of cueing or fraud.
- bwaaahahahahaa, and? I am on the edge of my seat waiting for the point you're making with thismonospaced
- http://uproxx.files.…ApeRobot
- Thank, you've made my point for me. You are so certain that this cannot be real you dismiss it without investigation. An that's called belief.Morning_star
- called belief.
Morning_star - if you think this study is actual evidence, then you have to get your head checked, sorry bromonospaced
- It's a series of tests that show a phenomenon that cannot be explained and requires further investigation. Or are you claiming to be able to explain the results.Morning_star
- to be able to explain the results, oh great one ;)Morning_star
- monospaced has spoken. listen to his wisdom. incredible.fadein11
- I'm saying those tests are weak at best. No need to make fun of someone just because they're right. It's bad science. Period.monospaced
- You are not right, by any stretch of the imagination. Even when shown anomalous evidence that challenges the materialist paradigm, you KNOW it's wrong? In the face of contrary evidence your blind faith is impressive to say the least.Morning_star
- you KNOW the truth. Yet, you never offer contrary evidence, just narrow minded opinion. Your blind faith is impressive to say the least.Morning_star
- the least.Morning_star
- Ever heard the the saying extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence?ukit2
- When it is some "researcher" who already belongs to the Parapsychological Organization and went in believing this stuff, natural reaction is to be suspicious.ukit2
- and the story is published in some sketchy looking psychic news site, natural reaction is to be suspicious that what they are claiming is true.ukit2
- claiming is true. After all there are many ways to fake the results of an experiment.ukit2
- Do you believe in ghosts too?
Hey look, "evidence"...
http://www.dailygrai…ukit2 - < Some guy said it, it must be trueukit2
- I've already given links to hundreds of experiments and peer reviewed papers by reputable labs. Is your position so weak that you have to criticise the people rather than the results. As for 'extraordinary claims etc' it's a bullshit statement. 'Exatraordinary' has a subjective meaning, what is extraordinary to you may be perfectly ordinary to me. It's a tricksy way of bringing subjectivity into scientific method. Look at the data, analyse it then share your results. Simple and scientific.Morning_star
- so weak that you have to criticise the people rather than the results. As for 'extraordinary claims etc' it's a bullshit statement. 'Exatraordinary' has a subjective meaning, what is extraordinary to you may be perfectly ordinary to me. It's a tricksy way of bringing subjectivity into scientific method. Look at the data, analyse it then share your results. Simple and scientific.Morning_star
- bullshit statement. 'Exatraordinary' has a subjective meaning, what is extraordinary to you may be perfectly ordinary to me. It's a tricksy way of bringing subjectivity into scientific method. Look at the data, analyse it then share your results. Simple and scientific.Morning_star
- to me. It's a tricksy way of bringing subjectivity into scientific method. Look at the data, analyse it then share your results. Simple and scientific.Morning_star
- your results. Simple and scientific.Morning_star
- Not really, the links you provided are all to people like Dean Radin who make a living out of being the go to psychic expertukit2
- In the video you posted, Radin stated he believes the entire universe is made up of consciousness. How he jumped all the way to that conclusion not sure, but not exactly neutral.ukit2
- all the way to that conclusion based on some anomolous test results not sure, but gives you an idea of his extreme bias on this issue.ukit2
- A truly scientific approach would be to not assume any particular explanation, but to try to uncover the mechanism by which this stuff is supposedly occurring.ukit2
- And the problem with that is? What exactly is wrong with Dean Radin and the labs and experiments he's involved with. Again, criticise the results all you like but attacking the people is just weak.Morning_star
- stuff is supposedly occurring. Instead of jumping to these pre-conceived new age ideas.ukit2
- Again, criticise the results all you like but attacking the people is just weak.Morning_star
- It's not preconceived. His analysis is based on decades of results. He's an expert in his field, of course he's going to have a bias. As long as he approaches his experiments with neutrality, which he does, then what's the problem. Are you suggesting that Dawkins should twat on about the selfish gene because he's an expert in genetics?Morning_star
- have a bias. As long as he approaches his experiments with neutrality, which he does, then what's the problem. Are you suggesting that Dawkins should twat on about the selfish gene because he's an expert in genetics?Morning_star
- Are you suggesting that Dawkins shouldnt twat on about the selfish gene because he's an expert in genetics?Morning_star
- It's pretty easy to self-declare yourself an "expert" in a non-existent field. If someone claims to be a Bigfoot expert and spent their life looking for Bigfoot, do you believe them over everyone else?ukit2
- their life looking for Bigfoot, and gets funding from people on that basis, do you believe them over everyone else?ukit2
- There is an audience of people who want to believe in this psychic powers stuff, and people like Radin tell them what they want to hearukit2
- want to hearukit2
- It comes down to the evidence. I don't care if it's Bigfoot, ESP or the Higgs Boson, if the evidence is collected with scientific rigour and stands up to scrutiny then it has to be considered, until, someone can prove otherwise. Claiming truth is dependent on the person who delivers it is idiotic.Morning_star
- and stands up to scrutiny then it has to be considered, until, someone can prove otherwise. Claiming truth is dependent on the person who delivers it is idiotic.Morning_star
- the person who delivers it is idiotic.Morning_star
- It's not idiotic because everyone defers to authority to some extent. If you read something in the National Inquirer, especially a ridiculous far-fetched claim, you are less inclined to believe it than if read in the Guardian or BBC (I hope).ukit2
- ridiculous far-fetched claim, you are less inclined to believe it than if read in the Guardian or BBC (I hope).ukit2
- Previously you said you thought Deepak Chopra was a fraud, which I completely agree with. Well if that's true doesn't it raise a few questions as to why Radin allows him to publish his books and even write the introduction to his latest book?ukit2
- question as to why Radin allows him to publish his books and even write the introduction to his latest book?ukit2
- This is getting too long, my reply is down there.Morning_star
- a kid hears a different horn outside one day, and they call that ESP evidence? c'mon...scarabin
- this site is the westboro baptist church of "science"scarabin
- utopian0
Earth’s Magnetic Poles Show Signs They’re About to Flip—Exposing Humans to Radiation and Planet-Wide Blackouts
- sarahfailin0
^Re the above convo.
You're right about distance from the center of gravity creating a difference in gravitational force. In fact, since gravity affects time, time actually passes slightly faster at higher elevations. So if you had a twin sibling that that lived at 1 foot higher elevation that you, after a 79 year lifetime, they would be 90 billionths of a second older than you. (http://www.sciencedaily.com/rel...It's called Time Dilation and it actually has a tangible effect once you get further away from the surface of the earth. Astronauts come back with their clocks a little ahead of what they would have been had they stayed on earth. It also is affected by your velocity-- with time passing slower the faster you're moving. At light speed, time for a traveler on a spaceship would come to a stop and they would seem to arrive at any destination instantly, though time would pass normally for everything around them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim…
Finally, it's theorized that if you were to fall into a black hole-- the singularity of which is an infinite curvature of space-time-- and if you were somehow able to stay alive and look outward at space around you, you would actually witness the end of time before just before you hit the singularity. Time passes faster and faster for the outside world as you approach the singularity (relative to you anyway), and in fact time ends when your distance from the singularity = 0. Pretty crazy, eh?
- monospaced0
^ bullshit study is done non-blind, with the ONLY two therapists (not doctors or scientists, therapists) who had ALREADY reported her "telepathic" abilities. That's about as bad as a "scientific" study can imaginably get.
- even this stupid article says it's 100% inconclusive and finishes with the conclusion that it's probably not real at allmonospaced
- Regardless, Mono has no experience with unexplained phenomena anyway. he is a cyborg plugged into the grid..yurimon
- and you can go on and on about how it's not explained, but until someone actually tries this can't be entertained seriosulymonospaced
- lol, yuri, you have fun with all your unexplained phenomenamonospaced
- can't compute...
http://stream1.gifso…yurimon - face you are not spiritual. whether you have the capacity or you blocked who know. monobot.yurimon
- err face it.
anywho. you need to look inside you.yurimon - yuri, I have had spiritual moments, and when I'm in nature I can feel mother earth and all that, trust memonospaced
- and in my deepest beliefs, I believe all people are equally spiritual as human beings and members of the planetmonospaced
- the fact there is no proof for telepathy, is itself not a proof that it doesnt. It remains in a superstate, it may or not may be truedrgs
- mono's pineal gland is massively calcified due to all the fluoride he ingests. Poor thing.set
- Because all of you have had spiritual telepathic experience right?ukit2
- Dropping acid doesn't count btwukit2
- I have on many occasionsset
- Just because you haven't doesn't mean everyone else hasn't. That's a bit of a thick outlook, my friend.set
- how do you relax mono? do you have many friends?fadein11
- < Are you really picking on monospaced for not believing in telepathy? hahaukit2
- Seriously. You've got to be one gullible dope to even take it seriously. It simply has never held up. Ever.monospaced
- That is just not true. Even when faced with evidence your blind faith in scientism allows you alone to KNOW the truth. Your faith is impressive to say the least.Morning_star
- faith is impressive to say the least.Morning_star
- Yupset
- no, it hasn't, sorry :(monospaced
- uan0
- utopian0
- http://i.imgur.com/H…pablo28
- obviously you konw nothing about what happened lol. tardy to the party.yurimon
- you don't "know" either, you just have your beliefsmonospaced
- Science is AWESOME. Let's not forget Joseph Mengele and his awesome work in the name of science. And Oppenheimer and his oh-so-creative discoveries; and those happy chappies who invent new chemicals to burn kids for longer in syria. And the deliberate infection of whole communities with STDs in the name of science. And those ethical bohemoths the drug companies. Awesome.For fucks sake, it's about the inadequacies of human beings. There are ALWAYS those humans that exploit, mame, murder, steal and destroy in the name of something.Morning_star
- his oh-so-creative discoveries; and those happy chappies who invent new chemicals to burn kids for longer in syria. And the deliberate infection of whole communities with STDs in the name of science. And those ethical bohemoths the drug companies. Awesome.For fucks sake, it's about the inadequacies of human beings. There are ALWAYS those humans that exploit, mame, murder, steal and destroy in the name of something.Morning_star
- deliberate infection of whole communities with STDs in the name of science. And those ethical bohemoths the drug companies. Awesome.For fucks sake, it's about the inadequacies of human beings. There are ALWAYS those humans that exploit, mame, murder, steal and destroy in the name of something.Morning_star
- companies. Awesome. For fucks sake, it's about the inadequacies of human beings. There are ALWAYS those humans that exploit, mame, murder, steal and destroy in the name of something.Morning_star
- exploit, mame, murder, steal and destroy in the name of something.Morning_star
- no one saying is not awesome. these logical fallacy posts suckyurimon
- I shall defeat thee phantom internet atheist!mrrgl
- Technically, science is also flying into the buildingcannonball1978
- ukit20
The difference is that science can measure the Higgs and there is a solid theory for how it fits in with the rest of physics.
Yes you can run an experiment and claim that statistical anomalies are "evidence" of psychic powers but it should be obvious why this is bullshit. You are assigning a ridiculous explanation to something that could have any number of causes, like the experiment being flawed.
http://skeptico.blogs.com/skepti…
If psychic powers are real it shouldn't require poring through statistics. Just demonstrate someone accurately predicting the future or communicating telepathically, video tape it and upload to YouTube. Shouldn't be that hard right? And yet no one has done it despite supposedly studying this stuff for decades.
- Its usually typical of people who dont have any experiences.yurimon
- drgs0
