Romney???
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- CanHasQBN0
And I love how the right-wing criticizes Obama for having experience as a community organizer... as if that's a bad thing. As if connecting with the common people of this country is a BAD thing. It really boggles the mind how these right-wingers think. It's as if their brains are inverted and orientated upside-down in their skulls.
A community organizer is EXACTLY the kind of person I want in office. Not a CEO.
- hmm so you think a PTA Organizing Mom has the ability to excel as CEO of, lets say, Apple? Yeah my brain is the one upside down.whhipp
- one upside down.whhipp
- Huh? That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying I trust a PTA mom to make more moral decisions than a CEO would if put into theCanHasQBN
- put into the President's seat. You can't even follow this simple idea... that's how upside-down your brain is.CanHasQBN
- its about capabilities buddy.whhipp
- Capabilities to rob this country? How about morals? Does that count anymore? I don't trust CEO's to have any morals.CanHasQBN
- ...that's why they're CEO's. They get that position by fucking people over for a living.CanHasQBN
- pr20
"People like Mitt Romney (and their apologists) have convinced themselves that wealth extraction is wealth creation. They believe that "if I'm getting rich - that's good for everybody."":
- mg330
Thank you CanHasQBN for articulating the things I find trouble saying.
I'll probably say it dozens of times by November, but I simply cannot trust that a person as wealthy as Romney - a person who accumulated plenty of it by laying off American workers for the sake of corporate gain - has any idea what the average person's struggles are. The refusal to be open about his wealth, taxes, etc. bothers me. And I promise you I would say the same things about a Democratic candidate. I don't care about college records, transcripts, etc. from any of them. That's inconsequential. But where you acquired wealth and income, whether it was fair and legal, and what you possibly did to take advantage of the system even if it was totally legal - these are things that should be important to people who will never see even a fraction of that kind of money in their entire lives.
I'm not saying all presidents should be an average Joe with little wealth and an everyman quality to them. I want to know that someone who wants to run our country has been successful in some capacity and that they've proven themselves. But I want them to be transparent about it. What would we do if we found out Romney actually didn't pay taxes for years and he became President? There's no proof, true, but I'm just theorizing here.
- CanHasQBN0
Another thing that bothers me...
Waaah! Waaah! Obama is an elitist! Such an elitist!
If Obama is an elitist, then what the hell is Romney? How much more elite than Romney can a person get? If Obama is elite, then Romney is God.
Some people are so shockingly stupid in this country.
- mg330
Ha, you know what's funny too? I can recall numerous Repubs labeling Obama an elitist because he went to Harvard. Guess what, Romney did too, but they won't say anything.
- Yes, but Romney is whi...I mean, he's you know, American.TheBlueOne
- monolith0
let's try again
- holy crap that's goodlocustsloth
- The Ron Paul one cracks me up more:
http://www.youtube.c…ETM
- monolith0
Good stuff. I guess when he says he will take care of the economy he doesn't really specify who's economy, ours or China's
- whhipp0
For all you libs that get your info from your lib media, be it tv, web, radio. Just listen to their words not what the media is telling you, simpletons.
Here is a supporting article that states that 60 Minutes didnt even air most of the conversation. How do you like that?
http://www.ijreview.com/2012/08/…- "video is not available in your country"scruffics
- Yes, let's hear the Romney campaign propaganda straight from the source. That will certainly clear things up.ukit2
- such idiots, so there is no way in which they can deliver their message huh? you guys are so pathetic.whhipp
- i think it is only banned so America doesn't embarrass itself againscruffics
- yo whhipp, Romney is wack. He's a cutthroat rich dude, loyal to his bank account and his cronies, not you and I.NathanNice
- How can u not see that?NathanNice
- If liberals get their info from "the media", then where do conservatives get there info from? Yup, the fuckin media.CanHasQBN
- I thought the GOP used carrier pigeons.ETM
- or Jesusscruffics
- secret email groupsNathanNice
- Listening to their words means nothing. This guy changes his stance every couple of minutes.monospaced
- CanHasQBN0
"But you trust a man who is a trained liar and manipulator - an attorney" –whhipp
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -LOL. Obama was a civil rights lawyer, mostly working in research and writing..... He wasn't exactly defending murderers, rapists, and thieves by his supposed talents in "lying and manipulation".
From Wiki:
He stated that he saw a degree in law as a vehicle to facilitate better community organization and activism: "The idea was not only to get people to learn how to hope and dream about different possibilities, but to know how the tax structure affects what kind of housing gets built where."
- BonSeff0
if the dems keep the senate majority, and some lucky chance romney/ryan win in november, they wont be repealing shit, and we are going to have more of the same in congress. obstruction and divisiveness. would be fun seeing the white house and the house of reps calling the kettle black tho.
- ukit20
I would not believe a word Romney and Ryan say. Talking about how they want to save these programs. Republicans have been trying to privatize Medicare and Social Security since at least the early 80s.
- by the early 80's surely you mean since the day became the law of the landTheBlueOne
- ETM0
whipp = albums?
- I bet his wife sells Christian themed tee shirts out of a garage in Orange CountyTheBlueOne
- Kansas, actually.ETM
- That said, his view is his own and that's what you American's always claim is so great about your nation.ETM
- popfodders?tymeframe
- ETM0
Also, @whhipp and some others. Anyone who resorts to calling people 'simpletons' or 'idiots' in regards to political debate, truly demonstrates an ignorance of the political process and numerous other free, capitalist values.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
Seems to be a lost value. Rather then debate on merit and fact, people resort to playground tactics when they can no longer defend the position with quality or dignity.
- whhipp0
ETM I gotcha, but I do have to say those remarks are in response to many derogatory labels spouted in my direction earlier in these posts.
As you can see in a couple posts above, TBO attacks my wife? WTH?
What it comes down to, for me, is that I truly believe our country was founded on the principle that you earn prosperity, not given it. Obama, I feel, is a threat to the overall premise of what made this nation great at one time. Yes there has been some major problems in the past decade in which we find ourselves trying to dig out of (I feel, is due to government corruption). Reform is necessary, I agree, and I feel we should be calling for a government reform before all this "spread the wealth" talk. Lets call fo their heads before the working mans head–that has made something of himself, or his parents, his grandparents or whatever.
Lets turn off the faucet before mopping up the water overflowing on the floor.
- TBO, is this that bottom feeder from Orange County again?DrBombay
- Probably not. Just in my fetid libtard imagination.TheBlueOne
- TheBlueOne0
"founded on the principle that you earn prosperity"
I think the founding principles are right here:
"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
Let's see government to...establish justice, check. Keep the peace and defend everybody. Something about general welfare. Try to keep liberty thing going long term. Check.Uh-huh.
I seem to miss the bit about prosperity and whether it is to be earned or given as a natural right. Can you please point it out there for me in those words. You know, the founding principles. Right there.
You know, there was a huge debate around 250 odd years ago between the Federalist and the Anti-Federalists that covered these issues - after the first attempt at nation founding floundered while trying out many of the same things the Conservatives of today seem to want. Maybe you should read some Thomas Paine. He wrote some founding principles you know. Had a few pamphlets that made the rounds. He made an argument for socialized healthcare in fact. That's been part of the debate since before day one. That's not something that got wrenched into the debate about what our Founding Principles are by some latter day marxists you know - or by some "dimocrats" or by Obama. It was discussed. By some of the Founders. It was there. At the beginning. Discussed among our founders.
Kinda sick and tired of you teabaggers re-inventing early american politics like you just discovered it and latch onto a few convenient facts that suit your argument and discard the rest by thinking it somehow doesn't count and saying stupid shit like "I believe in our founders when they said prosperity should be earned, not given."
You know what, "they" collectively didn't say that. There was lots of argument about it. Full blooded, American argument about what was and what wasn't granted by the government of the people, and the whole point was that we needed to figure it out for ourselves based on what was going on at any given time that would provide the best for the most. Heck, Jefferson even argued that we might need another revolution or so if things got hairy. You know, that kind of implies that what the Founders did wasn't sacrosanct even in their own minds. Go ahead and blow the shit up and start all over again if you have to. So, to say, using what you "truly believe" what the "founding principles" as some sort of appeal to unimpeachable objective authority is really just you talking out of your ass.
- http://www.urbandict…NathanNice
- Fucken ay, yes.mikotondria3
- so its given? Ok suit your needs.whhipp
- lol. you really need to loosen up TBO. Fuck an egg.whhipp
- mm..really, he doesn't. TBO is NT Royalty, when he speaks, we listen. Go back and sit down.mikotondria3
- TBO understood more than you'll ever know about American politics when you were collecting stuffed animals.DrBombay
- No wait..will egg fucking loosen me up? Really? That could solve lots of problems.TheBlueOne
- Are we talking scrambled, hard boiled? Raw? I need some more intel here.TheBlueOne
- BonSeff0
i love the concept of the right that obama is taking bags of cash from people with top hats & monocles and doling them out to poor.
also funny that the small govt people would have everyone on welfare be drug tested.. huh, who would test those people? oh thats right, a shit load of new govt hires for the purpose.
- whhipp0
"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
Also note: it says nothing about "Spreading the Wealth".
@TBO- I made a general statement at which the US has been developed on–good hard work. Not some idea that I need to get mine from someone else attitude. Its swaying more and more to the latter in this country and Obama has willingly pandered to that mindset, which of course brings the majority of votes–being that majority are Middle to Lower Class.
Now get down from your high horse, loosen up, grab a beer and get to work.
- And im not debating Health Care here. Its Spread the Wealth concept. He needs to be careful and define what he means before spouting off.whhipp
- means before spouting off.whhipp
- I'm sorry, but what the hell are you even trying to say here?nato
- What tax has Obama raised, shitheel? Name one, how exactly is he taking things from people to give to others?DrBombay
- You missed the point. But good show on squeezing in the "spread the wealth" meme.TheBlueOne
- waterhouse0
Paul Ryan has even less "business experience" than Obama.
Let's hear it.
- And why the fuck is some antisocial LNYHBT shill even hanging around this website?waterhouse
- aaux0
" Its swaying more and more to the latter in this country and Obama has willingly pandered to that mindset, which of course brings the majority of votes–being that majority are Middle to Lower Class."
Is there any proof at all behind this or just an observation of yours? And don't give me that bullshit "more people than ever are on food stamps", that's been debunked over and over.
I love when the "conservatives" bemoan those who aren't paying their taxes as leeches on society. Those damn high-rollers making under 20k a year as a family and those useless retired people living off a social security check every month. Meanwhile, Romney and his ilk are raking in massive amounts of money on capital gains and using off shore accounts to skip out on taxes. Apparently it's OK to not pay taxes if you're rich.