Want to Design for free?
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- georgesIII0
"We all know how annoying and pointless is to deal with broke, deadbeat, ignorant and ego-issues business owners who... let's put it this way..... belong to sites like yours. "
nicely put.
- akrok0
hip and cool company! lol. jajaj..and the answer is: NO!
- capn_ron0
hey guys, I'm going to quit my full-time job, stop doing freelance for paying clients, and see if I can make it big doing free work in hopes I get paid.
Better yet, I'm going to offer this type of service at my next auto repair problem. I'll drop off my car, whoever fixes it better, i'll pay them half of what it's worth for their time.
- IRS0
Crowdsourcing with a slick wrapper
https://www.victorsandspoils.com…
- dbloc0
The quality sucks, so the price is cheap. How is this different from anything else. I can get my nephew to design something for free.
I will call it nephewsourcing.com
- OSFA0
THEY GOT RID OF ALL COMMENTS???
- That's what it looks like.Continuity
- Oops, nope, they're back.Continuity
- pillhead0
Someone should turn this shit around and start a website contest for marketing and management proposals for a grand prize of $200.
- capn_ron0
- it still looks like poop when you open it in photoshop. dark type on a dark background.capn_ron
- it didn't look like that when it was posted this morning...weirdmonospaced
- it's looked like that all day for me. that's why i couldn't believe it won.capn_ron
- nah, it had color and more white type before.monospaced
- yeah, as mon said, it didn't look like that earlier. it still looked like shit, mind you, but it didn't look like that.lvl_13
- looks waay different on ff than chrome. ff looks "fine".jaylarson
- safari it looks like this. a browser thing then. But it is still a cmyk jpg.capn_ron
- Stop being stupid and download and open in PSD. It's going to look different in diff browsers, noobs.dMullins
- ukit0
Is it just me, or did all the hype around crowdsourcing die down a little?
If you go back a year, there were people proclaiming it was the future of the industry, which was of course nonsense. Anyone can tell you it's simply not feasible to build an entire project based on spec work, even if top creatives were willing to stoop to that level.
So considering the hype has died off a bit, I'm wondering exactly how an agency like "Victors & Spoils" is doing. They launched the site and indicated 100% of their work would be crowdsourced, so have they been raking it in? More importantly, are they able to execute professional quality campaigns completely via spec work or do they bend the rules a bit??
I know nothing about how they've been doing of course, except to say that it's interesting that a year after they launch, still no work up on the site...
- OSFA0
Like I said, this idiot and his awesome website will fade away in a year or two max.... then, some new 'smart' clown will show up and try to do the same....
- Continuity0
From the writer of the article (I am loathe to call her a journalist):
Dear online community members,
If you are a graphic designer who has strong feelings about Prova's concept, I'd like to hear from you and possibly include your comments in a follow-up story. Please use your real name and e-mail me at . Thanks!
- capn_ron0
^ instead, let's put together a contest of our own to write the best article explaining why this type of practice is bad for all involved. The winner will get the article published in the "all-new UT"
- ukit0
“To be creative, you don’t have to go to college or work for a large design firm. Creativity is often part of a person's personality, regardless of where they work,” he said. “The only limitation is having a computer and a creative mind.”
Ah right...thanks David, you've just indicated my whole professional training, and the tens of thousands I spent on a degree from a reputable design school was all a complete waste of time.
I guess by this logic, the only requirement for being an architect is grid paper, a pile of rocks and a love of tall buildings.
- +1,000,000monospaced
- *cough*
This would be a REALLY bad time to point out I only have a HS diploma, wouldn't it?Continuity - This is actually true. The issue is that some are more creative than others.cannonball1978
- reminds me of that horrible infomercial with the steve martin wannabe asking if we "sketch or doodle? then you may have what it takes...
lvl_13 - whst it takes to become an artist" bullshit hahaha. where is that damn infomercial?!lvl_13
- hahaha!ukit
- ukit0
- Miguex0
So I emailed Tanya (a very long email) trying to be as professional as possible, trying to make a point about why the argument below can't not be possible:
“Some designers charge as much as $5,000 to $10,000 for designs,” said David Prova, the company's 30-year-old founder and CEO. “Just $200 on a Prova contest can render hundreds of entries.”
I pointed her to the specific case of the presented logo with stolen clip art elements here:
http://www.specwatch.info/jan.1.…She gave me a call, thanking me for participating and that and excerpt from my long email will be featured at the end of the article tomorrow in the paper.
The excerpt:
"Yeah, but...but... but what if the presented entry is stolen?" (or something like that) which is not what I was trying to say at all, but oh well.
- OSFA0
this Tanya, has no clue about this subject and figured posting something 'cool' about 'advertising' and design would be a good piece and get some sort of attention while fill up space and her quota for the month.
Talking to this idiot is a waste of time, she is not a real journalist and I won't waste my time trying to educate someone who first, doesn't give a shit and second, needs to work on HER own education, professionalism, etc.
These companies will continue to appear but will eventually be gone before anyone notices.
My question is where is David Prova??? He thought he would get away with a scripted response to jay's post, but boy! was he wrong!! Where is this cuntface? why doesn't he respond to comments and act as the CEO he claims to be?? Fucking clown!!!
- Miguex0
OSFA:
She was actually nice on the phone, I don't hold it against her, or Prova. Truth is Crowdsourcing is here, and some designers are all for it.
My concern is that Prova says his business model targets a need for companies looking for a solution "between Freelancer and Ad Agency" which I found insulting, it should be "between my own nephew and freelancer".
- cannonball19780
I have a feeling all it takes for a good trolling here is to scour the internet for a bit about crowdsourcing and suddenly a 100 response post inflates.