Want to Design for free?
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- aanderton0
Isn't this just the same as the old sitepoint contests?
- sofakingbanned0
thats all san diego needs. this shit. you guys should see some of the ads for freelancing.
- dirtydesign0
lets all join... every design we make will simply say FUCK YOU PAY ME
- Projectile0
I recently worked on a site design, where they had crowdsourced the logo. And to be fair, what they got for their money wasn't too bad. Ok I had to basically re-draw it cos it was slapped together, but still.. unfortunately, it is a fairly decent way for a SMALL company to go. To find someone to do it for a hundred bucks is a huge risk as most designers won't give them the option of a quickie.. it's at least grand or nothing.
it's our fault too.. for being overly pushy elitists.. and is a natural reaction.
That being said, he is fucking it up for the rest of us... so let's go fuck him up.
- Josev0
I signed up for Arteis before. I never attempted to work on any of the projects but it was interesting to look at their process. They did, at the time, have some talented people working for them BUT they were people that had regular jobs. I think the good designers were mostly bored and could easily do some mindless work in their free time and make some money. I don't think they realize, or care about how this damages our profession.
- Josev0
I've come across designers who believe that this is the future of the profession but they've never been able to explain how this will make things better. One argument is that increased competition will allow the best work to rise to the top. Yeah, we all know that the best work is always chosen by the client.
- akrokdesign0
but, i am only doing...this and that. they always have excuses. also, that it won't hurt you. fuck that, it does. i live here! and so do they.
- talking to them, is like having a conservation with a wall.akrokdesign
- so true. Designers aren't usually good business people.Josev
- _niko0
$250 bucks is great for designers in countries where that is a month's salary.
You'll get what you paid for though, clip art bullshit with your company name on it.
- OSFA0
THEY GOT RID OF ALL COMMENTS???
- That's what it looks like.Continuity
- Oops, nope, they're back.Continuity
- Continuity0
This from the article's comments:
--------------------------------...Jay Larson Today 08:23 AM
This kind of sham is what devalues design and give clients crappy work that usually doesn't have the necessary research behind the work that's needed. Crowd sourcing and spec work will never have the acceptance of the design community.4 people liked this.
David Prova 1 minute ago in reply to Jay Larson
Hey Jay,I'm sorry you see crowdsourcing as devaluing design. Prova's "pay for skill" concept is actually developed to increase the value of design. Rather than a typical freelance site which is lowering the value of design work with overseas workers reproducing cookie-cutter logos for $50, Prova was developed to increase the quality of available ad designs. Prova's target market is the business owner that understands a quality advertisement will attract more customers than a cheaply made design.
Prova's unique angle teaches our designers the "science" behind effective advertising (call to action, USP, effects of graphic placement, ...), so client's don't get an ad that lacks the necessary research.
- Continuity0
This David Prova's dude's answer make me see fucking red ...
- OSFA0
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??
- pillhead0
Someone should turn this shit around and start a website contest for marketing and management proposals for a grand prize of $200.
- hellojeehae0
“To be creative, you don’t have to go to college or work for a large design firm. Creativity is often part of a person's personality, regardless of where they work,” he said. “The only limitation is having a computer and a creative mind.”
- really? what about 4 years of education people pour into every year to become designers..hellojeehae
- Continuity0
'Prova's unique angle teaches our designers the "science" behind effective advertising (call to action, USP, effects of graphic placement, ...), so client's don't get an ad that lacks the necessary research. '
What a fucking patronising cunt who's got no business in marketing and advertising. Professional creatives (copywriters and designers) are probably ALL better versed in his so-called science than he is.
Makes me so fucking angry I could puke.
- becca20
Seems like we should bomb the article's comments section and invite David to QBN.
- Already did!iheartfun
- Added my comment to the article.Continuity