Hackers just killed global warming
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- FredMcWoozy0
It's funny how the 'climate nazi's' don't even want to believe this article lol
it was in guardian UK also
- janne760
so are we pro or against climate now?
- janne760
and what climate? warm cold? manmade?
- janne760
i can't keep up......
- raf0
Interesting year... authorities crumble. It started much earlier, when they went ott with praising Al Gore, giving him all the most absurd awards. Now it turns out...
Global Warming is a scam
Nobel Prize is a scam
Oscars are a scam
Obama is just another GoldmaniteAnd finally.. (and this is a punishment for the Irish for the referendum):
Soccer World Championship is a scam
- so what is your replacement for authority and organization?janne76
- 80% of problems solve themselves. 20% have no solution at all.
I wouldn't worry.raf - i see. k thx.janne76
- Ron Paul will swoop in and save the day like Supermanukit
- No he won't. One thing Obama is and Ron Paul isn't, is an alpha male leader. Ron Paul is just a decent man.raf
- Uh oh... are you iriish? I feel for ye.Gucci
- raf0
Hahahaha... from Guardian article:
"It does look incriminating on the surface, but there are lots of single sentences that taken out of context can appear incriminating," said Bob Ward, director of policy and communications at the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment at the London School of Economics. "You can't tell what they are talking about. Scientists say 'trick' not just to mean deception. They mean it as a clever way of doing something - a short cut can be a trick."
- acescence0
"But let's be clear: Jones is talking to his colleagues about making a prettier picture out of his data, and not about manipulating the data itself."
- gabe0
how does this prove (or disprove) anything? someone managed to steal a bunch of e-mails from some scientists. the news source(s) highlighted just one e-mail which for all we know is taken completely out of context.
even if it were true and a few scientists "massaged" some data, their behavior doesn't represent the scientific community as a whole and certainly isn't evidence enough to call global warming a scam.
- ukit0
gabe stole my comment;)
I don't get how a couple scientists exaggerating a graph or two at one university has any bearing on whether global warming is real or not.
Did all evidence for GW come from this one guy? Uh, no. To prove its fake, you'd have to prove EVERY scientist who is studying the subject is in on the "conspiracy."
All this has shown so far is the gullibility and stupidity of the general public for buying this malarkey.
- take another bump your buzz seems to be wearing off ...rayborn3000
- Sorry, but the Goldmanites bought me off a long time agoukit
- raf0
- Yes, the author of Jurassic Park is clearly the best person to make the case on thisukit
- ..because he speaks with sense?
Here's his reasonable stance in a condensed form http://www.youtube.c…raf - Well, he was a fiction writer not a scientist for starters...ukit
- I mean listen, I'm sure he was a nice guy (RIP) but I didn't hear anything all that convincing in the video you linked, it was pretty vagueukit
- vague in terms of actual argumentsukit
- GeorgesII0
Dammit people it seems that either you don't read the articles or you are too blinded to accept that they have been cheating you,
this is not just a couple of person or a word taken out of contest, they got more than a 1000 mails some going back 13 years,
how many time do i have to come here and say that they are overblowing and fixing their results, now we have a way to know if its true or not
the files can also be downloaded on the net so you can read them yourself and make up your own mind instead of always taking what msm is telling you at face value,
geez even if tomorrow jesus came into your hoise rindind a t-rex you'd deny it
this why this world can't be saved, too many lemmings thinking they are free individuals thinker
- Pupsipu0
hmm well read the documents and let us know. So far there is one suspicious email and only because it's hard to understand the jargon.
I'm sure thousands of people downloading only 160MB of documents could have at least find something better than that in 10+ hours. It would only be the story of the year.
- lowimpakt0
one suspicious email causes a decades long global scam involving ALL the leading scientific institutes, thousands of scientists from hundreds of different organisations and universities, almost all national governments, many businesses, thousands of NGO's.....
hmmm
- GeorgesII0
I went to bed hoping that more would be done,
you have to realize the consequence of these emails "If they are true", don't forget about Copenhagen next month and the multi billion green industry ready to go.
I found quite some good mail excerpts but It doesn't proves anything as long as we're not sure the documents are genuine
start here: http://news.google.com/news/more…- wow there is another article there, one guy can't account for a cold winter and is upset. whoaPupsipu
- ukit0
- lowimpakt0
george - "Copenhagen" and the new green industries won't be affected by a set informal emails between some scientists.
It doesn't do anything to the broader scientific consensus, other evidence and even the observations of retreating glaciers etc.
the problem is that non-scientists and some of the public will be more confused.
- ukit0
Is it just me or is it kinda ironic that the people who jump at any chance to discredit global warming are the same ones who are always posting stuff about Goldmanites running the world, the New World Order, how the swine flu vaccine is a secret plot to steal our precious bodily fluids, etc etc.
I got nothing against you guys believing whatever you want, but have you ever considered it's a little inconsistent that you don't apply the same level of extreme skepticism you seem to have towards global warming to all these other, some might say slightly more far fetched theories?
- you're at it again, any example ukit of what your are stating?GeorgesII
- http://noconsensus.w…spifflink
- the people that "leaked" this shit. these people are our of their minds. obviously have no understanding of science.spifflink