Another dead cyclist...
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- dMullins0
Follow-up about this story....
Driver turns herself in — http://www.news-record.com/conte…
Which means I could find her on Facebook — http://www.facebook.com/profile.…
Putting two and two together with a little logic: she was drunk on her birthday and killed the biker.
- Projectile0
wow so she's definitely guilty AND was probably pissed!! String the bitch up and grow bamboo up her ass- niiice n slow.
She's taken her birthday details down but we can still message her.
- GeorgesII0
THAT BITCH
http://www.news-record.com/conte…
- moth0
You lot are a bit harsh.
It's not all careless drivers who kill cyclists. People don't just drive around targeting them. Cyclists are basically participating in extreme sports just by getting on a bike in a city with many tons of metal hurtling around them with nothing for protection but a t-shirt and a helmet. What about leathers like motorcyclists? Or are you too cool? Or, as my suspicion leads me to think, just a bit a too dim to properly weigh up the dangers of push-bikes on busy roads?
It's inherently dangerous, and all the careful driving in the world wont change that.
- Projectile0
Are you kidding me, buddy? What about leathers? ok I take it you've never been on a treadmill, gone for a run, or anything that's not on a Wii !!!
..and trust me I'd rather risk cycling through London every day than get on the bloody tube. It's a lifestyle choice that more people ought to make but are just too feckin lazy *cough*. Cyclists are generally pretty careful and know what to look out for, but motorists have an obligation to be careful and look out for us, just as we look out for pedestrians and dogs. Not to squeeze past us at high speed when it's a close call, not bother to ever check their blind spots or indicate, and DRIVE HOME PISSED!
- Haha, Wii.dMullins
- You wouldn't need to look out for pedestrians and dogs if you weren't on the fucking pavement!moth
- you think so? never seen an idiot pedestrian crossing the road without looking?Projectile
- raf0
I have 3 male friends in their mid-30's crises who bought large motorcycles in recent years. All of them had dangerous accidents, the last one 2 weeks ago - fractured foot. All accidents caused by car drivers.
It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. Which bothers me as my brother, 29 is getting his motorbike license now.
- dMullins0
Grayson Warren Dawson
Sex: Female (questionable)
Birthday: October 24, 1961
Hometown: Eden, NC
Relationship Status: Married
Looking For: Friendship
Political Views: Conservative Party
Religious Views: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day SaintsAh okay, I was wondering where the crazy came in, cause she sure looks it in her picture.
- moth0
"All accidents caused by car drivers."
Of course they were. Because you know what? People don't generally accept responsibility for their actions. You can bet that there's 3 car drivers out there whining to their friends about 3 idiot motorcycles who crashed into them.
- moth0
See? Projectile doesn't accept that the blame could possibly EVER lay with the fleshy human being playing around in traffic made up of solid steel and dead weight traveling at speed. That's not at all an accident waiting to happen is it? Because fleshy human is being "careful" and that'll keep him safe.
- ive got your back Moth23kon
- I didn't say there wasn't any danger. I said that motorists should be more careful and considerateProjectile
- blaw0
@raf
New motorcyclists are the same as new motorists—not enough muscle-memory to automatically adjust without thinking. Too much thought focused on actually operating the machine leaves not enough thought focused on other drivers, miscellaneous road hazards and reacting to the unexpected.
Of course cars take out bikes, but how often do you hear of a rider in their first couple years of riding that "failed to negotiate a turn".
If your brother takes the first couple of years seriously he'll likely be just fine. Beginner and Advanced Safety Courses are a great place to start, but plenty of riding time and practicing with cones on a Saturday morning goes a long way towards becoming familiar with a machine.
- <-- the voice of experiencelocustsloth
- All of my biker friends had lots of training, went across Europe a few times each, wear best protective gear.raf
- The guy who flipped over a car has long years of experience and is the voice of reason himself. That wasn't enough.raf
- That's not what you said. You said 30s guys in their crisis, meaning "just got too big a bike to handle". That's what I was speaking towards.blaw
- ...was speaking towards.blaw
- They weren't Sunday bikers, they rode daily - just that they decided to fulfill bike dreams in their 30s - a tad funny, but...raf
- ...perhaps that's the age you get a bit smart to play on the safe side.raf
- locustsloth0
Are bicyclists supposed to obey the same rules of the road as car drivers? i ask because i often see bicyclists barely stop at red lights and stop signs and then proceed if it's clear.
- Obviously we have all seen a handful of retarded bikers not obeying the rules of the road.dMullins
- handful? All of them.moth
- proceed IF it's clear? after slowing right down? yup. It's safer than dicing trafficProjectile
- raf0
@moth
You are wrong here. The accidents actually were caused by car drivers. So said the police or/and the court in each case. Two of the guys got new bigger bikes from insurance money already. One of them has actually had two similar accidents in the last 2-3 years somebody bumping into him from the side.
One of the recent cases was my friend flipping over a car on an intersection which he was crossing at a green light. The car crossing on red was driven by a teenage girl who was with her girlfriends and on the phone (just like in this Gwent Police video). There were lots of witnesses to confirm.My point is though, despite the accidents being caused by reckless car drivers, it is fucking absurdly dangerous to ride a motorbike.
- 23kon0
"Obviously we have all seen a handful of retarded bikers not obeying the rules of the road."
Where I am its actually the minority of cyclists that follow the laws of the road or stop at red lights. I always assume a cyclist is going to shoot a red light in the city centre and i'm actually caught by surprise if one actually STOPS at a red light.
If I was to break as many laws driving to work as one of the many cyclists I see on my commute then i'd be in jail pronto.
I'd love to see cyclists being more accountable for their actions
- registration plates
- having to sit a licence test - at the moment anyone can get a bike and jump on the road
- insurance?
The reg plates will mean that they can be reported or caught on cameras jumping red lights or mounting pavements.- insurance?? ahahaha lol, how about registration plates on rollers or skate and even rfid the walkers
GeorgesII
- insurance?? ahahaha lol, how about registration plates on rollers or skate and even rfid the walkers
- Iggyboo0
I am sorry to hear about your friend, it is awful but it is all too common place to hear about their is very little safety of riding bikes on streets filled with cars. I too know a friend I grew up with who was killed by a truck when it was a foggy day. But it doesn't have to be a foggy day, just has to be a day with a driver on a cell phone, why risk your life on streets with a bike especially in high speed areas or congested ones? I agree it's better for the environment but not at the potential risk. cars and bikes just don't mesh.
- 23kon0
GeorgesII
It's not a rediculous thing. It would make cyclists instantly accountable if they had reg plates so would probably make a lot more of them follow the laws of the road that everyone else abides by.
Every other "VEHICLE" driver on the road has to go through a test and have registration documents.
- if a cyclist break the law and gets killed, the driver is not accountable. Sound fair? Does to meProjectile
- dMullins0
Well in the end, turns out Grayson Dawson was driving at night, on her birthday, so we can all assume that she was probably toasted and driving recklessly—she was clearly cognizant enough to make a U-turn and flee the scene of the crime. She then laid low for nine days while determining (with a lawyer, no doubt) how to proceed. Bitch only turned herself in because they found her car with blood smears on it, and a broken front windshield.
Now she's out on bond freely going about her life—what a crock of shit.
Grayson Warren Dawson should be kept in jail to think about what she's done, until the day she faces trial and goes to jail for however many years for criminally negligent manslaughter, and felony hit-and-run. She should pray to her LDS god that she is lucky to have avoided another felony, as well as another misdemeanor.
- dMullins0
The idea of registration plates on a bike is really not a bad idea. I definitely don't agree with the insurance though.
- moth0
Insurance for cyclists is only a joke, GeorgesII, because the insurance companies wouldn't offer it at all - just like they don't offer it for any other stupidly dangerous pastime.
I would LOVE to see registration plates on bikes. Stand at the lights on the Mall in London, and you will see, without fail, 95% of the fuckers jump the lights.