Another dead cyclist...
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- Iggyboo0
I am sorry to hear about your friend, it is awful but it is all too common place to hear about their is very little safety of riding bikes on streets filled with cars. I too know a friend I grew up with who was killed by a truck when it was a foggy day. But it doesn't have to be a foggy day, just has to be a day with a driver on a cell phone, why risk your life on streets with a bike especially in high speed areas or congested ones? I agree it's better for the environment but not at the potential risk. cars and bikes just don't mesh.
- 23kon0
GeorgesII
It's not a rediculous thing. It would make cyclists instantly accountable if they had reg plates so would probably make a lot more of them follow the laws of the road that everyone else abides by.
Every other "VEHICLE" driver on the road has to go through a test and have registration documents.
- if a cyclist break the law and gets killed, the driver is not accountable. Sound fair? Does to meProjectile
- detritus0
This kind of story is exactly why I can't abide the shite drivers come out with about cyclists 'flouting laws' - if we don't, we're fucked.
Sorry to hear about your friend, man. What a shitter.
- BusterBoy0
Shocker. That's why I hardly ever ride on roads. Bike path all the way to work even though it takes me longer.
- airey0
sorry to hear about this man, read it and it sounds terrible.
just to add a balanced view to what will no doubt become a 'cyclists of the world unite thread', i cycle and have to add here that i've witnessed more than my fair share of riders acting like fuckwits and then blaming a driver. taking up half the road on a .5kg metal frame 'aint smart. even if you are in the right (as in correct), getting hit by a ton of metal will win. motorbikes are told to take up a carspace of room on the road understandably but 2 3 cyclists taking up half the road is ridiculous and dangerous as it leads to some people loosing their shit, and loosing their shit behind a large vehicle is ugly.
- loosing - losing. loosing would be really ugly. especially in white bike shorts.airey
- Amicus0
The real problem is the road system. Any time you have a mix of vehicle sizes, speeds and ability to maneuver you will have problems.
I hope that in the future as vehicle numbers soar we can create new roads that allow different classes of vehicles to be separated for higher levels of safety.
- dMullins0
^ That is certainly a part of it. The roads unfortunately don't even try to support cyclists in most cities anymore.
There's already a gang of vapid idiots leaving ridiculous comments on the N&R page. It's just sad that a man has died, and people sit behind their keyboards acting like twits, saying shit they would never have the balls to say in real life.
Welcome to the Internet.
- Road administration, that is. I will say that there are some great cities out there that pour resources into it.dMullins
- dbloc0
sorry to hear that...I had a buddy get dragged by a car a while back...
- dMullins0
Well in the end, turns out Grayson Dawson was driving at night, on her birthday, so we can all assume that she was probably toasted and driving recklessly—she was clearly cognizant enough to make a U-turn and flee the scene of the crime. She then laid low for nine days while determining (with a lawyer, no doubt) how to proceed. Bitch only turned herself in because they found her car with blood smears on it, and a broken front windshield.
Now she's out on bond freely going about her life—what a crock of shit.
Grayson Warren Dawson should be kept in jail to think about what she's done, until the day she faces trial and goes to jail for however many years for criminally negligent manslaughter, and felony hit-and-run. She should pray to her LDS god that she is lucky to have avoided another felony, as well as another misdemeanor.
- dMullins0
The idea of registration plates on a bike is really not a bad idea. I definitely don't agree with the insurance though.
- utopian0
Sorry to hear about your friend dMullins :(
In Philly we have the opposite problem, the bicyclist are killing pedestrians and then taking off... This is the second hit-and-run death by a bicyclist this year.
- moth0
Insurance for cyclists is only a joke, GeorgesII, because the insurance companies wouldn't offer it at all - just like they don't offer it for any other stupidly dangerous pastime.
I would LOVE to see registration plates on bikes. Stand at the lights on the Mall in London, and you will see, without fail, 95% of the fuckers jump the lights.
- Point50
This type of thing is horrible. My wife is a first grade school teacher; last year they had to pull a kid out of her class about 30 minutes after school started because his mother had just been hit from behind, ran over and drug by a car for about 70yards by an elderly driver who had no idea he even hit her until after he parked his car in a parking lot. That woman rode her bike along with her kids to school and back every day.
- dMullins0
I didn't know this guy, but he's local to my area and a friend of an ex-coworker, so it's still relatively close to home.
- BuddhaHat0
That sucks, sorry to hear it. I witnessed one earlier this week on the way to work. A crap way for me to start the day, and even crappier day for him :/
People just don't learn.
- Amicus0
While riding up a hill as a teenager I got hit by a drunk driver in a 4WD coming out of a gravel driveway. I was relatively unhurt, luckily, except for gravel rash up both legs and arms. My bike was trashed, but in shock I walked it the block home. When I got home I realised no one else was there so I ran a bath full of dettol and jumped in. FUCK ME, I still remember that pain as if it were now. I raced out the back nude and hosed off quick before getting dressed.
An hour or so later the guy was knocking on doors looking for me to pay for the bike. Dad was home by then and took him down the cop shop. The idiot had gone home, and drunk some more before he drove back. The cops, realising he was plastered, let him get back in his car and drive out of the parking lot before pulling him over and arresting him.
His reading was .158 and his licence was suspended for a year. I can't remember how much he got fined, but I know I didn't get a new bike :(
- That sucks! Good call on the cops' part letting the schmuck drive away into handcuffs.dMullins
- dMullins0
I don't get why people get so upset about cyclists going through lights after properly make sure the way is safe. This is by far the safest way for a cyclist to avoid injury at an intersection (which by the way, is where the most cycling accidents occur, statistically), or when passing through one.
Grayson Dawson (the driver at fault) would have hit and killed David Sherman regardless of this.
One thing's for sure—I'll probably think twice before driving even remotely intoxicated again.
- BuddhaHat0
I know that pain Amicus, I've been hit a couple of times in the city, one old lady hit the skids on my hand and tore a lot of the skin off. At the hospital, the nurse made me scrub the gravel out of my hand with an alcohol sponge while she did my back. I saw white and almost passed out it was so painful.
The bitch snapped the crown on my front forks and half folded the front wheel. I didn't get a new bike either :(
- fuck, sounds a little more dramatic than my experience.Amicus
- dMullins0
Well, while we're at it (and sharing personal biking hell experiences), here's my door-ing, whereupon my elbow was shattered into 19 fragments. I now deal with pain anytime it rains, I can barely lean on it when laying down (6 years later), that arm constantly goes numb, and the skin has yet to reform completely (it feels significantly thinner there and I can feel the metal through it):
In the end, the car owner got off/absolved of all fault. I didn't get a dime out of it: