Another dead cyclist...
- Started
- Last post
- 49 Responses
- dMullins0
I don't get why people get so upset about cyclists going through lights after properly make sure the way is safe. This is by far the safest way for a cyclist to avoid injury at an intersection (which by the way, is where the most cycling accidents occur, statistically), or when passing through one.
Grayson Dawson (the driver at fault) would have hit and killed David Sherman regardless of this.
One thing's for sure—I'll probably think twice before driving even remotely intoxicated again.
- lowimpakt0
some ideas
raised cycle paths like what they have in denmark - so cars don't drive over or park in cycle lanes.
properly design junctions with dynamic signalling to give preference to cyclists (i.e. cyclists have a few seconds to move out into junctions before they get cut up by asshole cars)
properly trained cyclists with the confidence and decent road sense.
less cars in cities/urban areas full stop
proper enforcement of traffic "crimes" - I mean serious enforcement of shit parking, running red lights, speeding etc etc
no large lorries in any central city area between 7am and 7pm
proper cycle facilities
enforecement of cycling with no lights or proper reflective gear - cycling needs to be taken seriously as a form of transport
- lowimpakt0
where exactly are the lights positioned?
the current thinking is that cars should be moved back from the junction giving cyclists time to get ahead of turning cars or for crossing to the right.
that is what advanced stopping lines are for - They don't always work as either cars pull into them or they are too short - hence teh point about dynamic signalling
- Projectile0
- Option C. Pedestrian get's killed by cyclist.moth
- read the text.Projectile
- JackRyan0
I got nailed on my scooter when a van ran a stop sign, people just don't pay enough attention. I guess the guy took off when I was laying in the middle of the intersection unconscious. The next thing I remember is being carried out of the street. I ended up having two broken bones on my foot. May face and hands were all cut up, Im just glad I didn't die.
- detritus0
Moth - I've never yet been anywhere near ramming a pedestrian* - they always have right of way over me, regardless of what I might involve myself in. Same with cars. Why? Because I'm precariously balanced on a thin frame of metal, sometimes travelling at speed. ANY physical encounter I have, be it with a car, a person, a dog, a glass bottle, a broom handle at 45 degrees to the wheel (drove over one rounding Highbury Corner once - really not a pleasant experience), an over-sized pebble - anything - is going to cause me a colourful cross-spectrum of pain.
As a cyclist, my motivation is to not hit anything. Or, for that matter, be hit by anything - you must surely aprpeciate how drivers are in London? It's survival of the nippiest out there.
.
* Now, obviously, because I've just said that, I'm likely to take out a grandmother or small child tomorrow - just wait.
- fooler20
- :(
'great' idea though. sadly.detritus - ; ( It's so sad seeing those!Projectile
- :(
- boomking0
Sorry to hear about your loss. We just had this happen in LA yesterday - very happy with the verdict as the guy was a total menace. And I've ridden up this road hundreds of times....
- yeah- nothing more dangerous than a frustrated driver. Van drivers are the worst in that regardProjectile