gay anti gay?
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- detritus0
Pfft, the world and it's over-engorged population of humans could do with some more gay people, or that the 10% that is already having the freedom to live how it pleases.
As for labelling things 'gay' (/'ghey'?) - I remember when I first picked up on this, about 7 years ago, and I thought it terribly un-PC and crass. Now, lo, a long time later, and I'm using it myself. Though, I mean to apply to overly-effete and campy things, which I have no problem ..er.. having a problem with. I couldn't give a hoot what someone's sexuality is, but the minute they (male or female) start mincing around, air-kissing and talking about nothing other than shoes and sleb gossip, is the minute I gits ma shotgun out and start shooting for Jesus.
- designbot0
^over-engorged population? Even China is predicted to run into issues after instituting the family planning program. There will be 129 million Chinese over the age of 60 as of the year 2000. By 2020, one in four will be elderly.
- 'issues' hinged on what? Economic growth? Which we've spent the last 30 years learning is unsustainable?detritus
- having less children is not the answer. We need to be smarter with our resources.designbot
- No, completely wrong. Having less children AND making better use of our resources is what we should be doing.detritus
- ok, you can make dogmatic claims all day....give me some information that is not based on your opinion.designbot
- Likewise. I can't be bothered to trawl the depths of my sources solely to fend off another opinion in a note.detritus
- The fact that you even question the obviousness of my point makes me realise you're either dogmatic or naivedetritus
- I HAS STRONG OPINYENZ IN NOATZZgramme
- pascii0
why is homosexuality such a big thing? ...maybe because some straight guys or gals are turned on by homosexual fantasies and fall in guilt over that?
- six0
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Six, how do you know that man isn't bi? Is someone either gay or straight? I do think it was good that he did once love a woman and procreate jus my opinion."he used to be bi, otherwise he wouldn't have made babies lol and had a very active sex life all those years. he also loves his kids and wouldn't change his past. i have never ever in my life found a woman attractive but maybe i will in the future, i'm not ruling the possibility out. i don't think it's black and white by any means. i have met lots of men who have wanted to experiment with their sexuality (would have been rude not to have helped out lol) and with the advent of the intertubes, thats now becoming a lot easier.
i also agree with detritus about "queens" over dramatizing their sexuality, drives me mad. i never go on the gay scene and have only a couple of gays friends. in fact i don't really think about it much until someone else reminds me of the fact i'm a fag lol. there are a lot of gay people who live their lives around the scene and their sexuality. i could understand this 20 years ago, but not now.
- drgs0
>When you look at all of these uber gay bashing conservatives who
>have been found out (be it in airport bathroom stalls or congress) to
>be closeted homosexuals then you begin to see what's really driving
>homophobia.most viewed articles on conservapedia
http://www.conservapedia.com/Spe…
- dan53820
i say to this topic. Who really cares? if someones gay doesn't mean you have to be.
- redrum0
he lives in Alabama. isn't that in the Alabama bible or something?
- sputnik20
we should all embrace our inner queens and keep our noses out of other people's relationships/sexual preferences
- gramme0
The wholesale lack of understanding here in regards to human nature, right and wrong is amazing to me.
I have absolutely no problem hanging out with, working with or getting to know gay people. There are no gay people in my current office, but if there were I wouldn't treat them any differently. Back when I waited tables in college, some of my co-workers were gay; we used to hang out and drink beers together, no worries.
My question: do you all consider it homophobia if I am perfectly comfortable around gay people, but still consider the lifestyle wrong? I would say the same thing to my friends who choose not to wait until marriage to have sex. Being gay is no worse, it's just another deviation from what sex was originally meant to be – not according to me, but you know Who.
Thing is, if I had any close gay friends, it would be a while before they heard my take on homosexuality. I'd rather let them see that as a Christian, my number one priority is love, and that means building solid relationships. Also, I have my own thorns in the flesh, and plenty of shady things in my past. I guess the rub is that some people see nothing wrong with being gay, and some people do. Unfortunately, the people who think the lifestyle is a wrong choice – but still choose to treat gay men and women like anyone else – get lumped in with the ultra-conservative, bigoted, chaw-spitting types who are the actual homophobes. You know – the ones who make awful gay jokes, harrass them, even do physical harm to gays. I hope people can learn to see more clearly through the haze of vitriol that permeates gay-rights groups etc. – see that it is possible to care for someone without judgment, even whilst disagreeing with some of their lifestyle choices.
- Politely disagreeing is fine. Believing you have a right to dictate how others live (who they marry, if they raise kids, etc) is quite anotherlocustsloth
- You obviously do the formerlocustsloth
- acescence0
but gramme, your position is based on the assumption that being gay is a choice, which i'm not entirely sure is true. same sex pair bonding has been observed elsewhere in the animal kingdom. and like chris rock said, everyone knows that one kid they grew up with that was just different. i went to kindergarten with a boy who was "different", and sure enough he came out in high school. pre-pubescent kindergartners making this "choice" just seems like a stretch to me.
- acescence0
anyway, i'm sure there are a lot of people that have some sort of self hatred, growing up in a environment hostile to homosexuality. they're constantly told it's wrong and they'll burn in hell for something that they probably have no control over.
and regarding "queens" being so overtly flamboyant, i think it's a case of someone adopting their sexuality as their identity, a way to fit in or be noticed. like someone who wants to let you know how goth they are etc. i think they just want to belong to something because they don't have a strong sense of self.
- ian0
What the fuck does it even matter. Who am I to try to tell someone else how to live their life? if it doesn't directly harm you, then whats the fuss? Gay sexuality has been around for as long as humans have been. Its not a recent development, its just become more acceptable in society in recent years.
- pascii0
we're men, and we love sex.
- ukit0
I say let people live how they want, as long as they're not hurting anyone else. In a society where there isn't an official religion, I don't see how you can argue with that.
- ukit0
In other words, even if you are religious and believe it is wrong you should be in favor of full rights for gay people. Otherwise you are confusing your personal beliefs with what should be allowed in society as a whole.