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- lemmys_wart0
P Z Myers on that new creationist film with Ben Stein.
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Brookoioioi
(Sep 1 07, 10:26)"I mean, seriously, not telling one of the sides in a debate about what the subject might be and then leading him around randomly to various topics, with the intent of later editing it down to the parts that just make the points you want, is the video version of quote-mining and is fundamentally dishonest. "
Nice.
- lemmys_wart0
I suppose we should see ole' monotones defense of larry craig while were at it.
- Brookoioioi0
haha... PZ is spot on as ever...
"I do have a few questions, though.
I'm wondering why the Discovery Institute would be so enthused about this movie. It lays it's premise on the line: science is flawed because it excludes god and the supernatural. It's one big promo for religion — which means it's going to further undercut Intelligent Design creationism's claims to be a secular idea."
"Why were they so dishonest about it? If Mathis had said outright that he wants to interview an atheist and outspoken critic of Intelligent Design for a film he was making about how ID is unfairly excluded from academe, I would have said, "bring it on!" We would have had a good, pugnacious argument on tape that directly addresses the claims of his movie, and it would have been a better (at least, more honest and more relevant) sequence. He would have also been more likely to get that good ol' wild-haired, bulgy-eyed furious John Brown of the Godless vision than the usual mild-mannered professor that he did tape. And I probably would have been more aggressive with a plainly stated disagreement between us."
"Oh, well. I have two warnings for the creationists.
One, I will go see this movie, and I will cheer loudly at my 30 seconds or whatever on the screen, and I will certainly disembowel its arguments here and in any print venue that wants me. That's going to be fun."
Yes, looking forward to it.
- JesseJensen0
That was so cute, Brookoioioi.
- Concrete0
Neat-o idea, too bad the evidence points in another direction.
Mimio
(Aug 31 07, 10:57)So it's considered incomprehensible that we are all decedents of Adam & Eve, but you welcome the concept that we were once monkeys?
Evolution is such a cop out.
- flagellum0
Yes you've gotta love the cowardly PiZza Myers. He has mastered the art of the Ad hominem. His thinking is about as clear as mud and ID proponents love it so! I swear he must be a covert employee of DI.
http://www.evolutionnews.org/200…
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You've got to admit that he is a charmer, though...
lol!
- flagellum0
congratulations, tank. You were post 666.
- tank020
yes
our town priest always called my satans child for stealing the communion wine...
and also my school prefect..i was in an bording school, i got teached by monks and priests..
it was actually one of them that said to me never take the bible texts to literally...he was such a cool old man, playing pool with us and giving us some smokes..
the prefect, he was a bastard tho..got to send to another town some years after for touching the boyzzzz..
- BonSeff0
dem monks and priests teached you real good
- flagellum0
that's a shame, tank. Sounds like you got a solid dose of dead religion, but was never introduced to Jesus.
- tank020
nono, the religion teacher was really cool. he let us listnen to lenny kravitz and than showed how its religious stuff in there and such..
nice guy.
- BonSeff0
history channel is showing the big bang theory on their univers series tonite
- Brookoioioi0
What mate, billions of years? Nah mate. Old skool gray haired white bloke innit, made us out of mud 6000 years ago, yeh mate, old book says so innit.
- TheBlueOne0
the religion teacher was really cool. he let us listnen to lenny kravitz
tank02
(Sep 3 07, 11:25)Wait. Lenny Kravitz is cool again? I need a scorecard...
..Or is Lenny just cool in like midwest Bible towns cause he's like black AND jewish and rips off hendrix riffs and Prince melodies and his mom was the "sassy one" on that black sitcom?
- mrdobolina0
tank's in belgium, give'm a break. Even though lenny kravitz IS the wackest black artist ever.
- TheBlueOne0
Lenny Kravitz is to Ben Harper as John Mayer is to ________?
- ukit0
Dave Matthews?
- mrdobolina0
perfect!