God's warriors
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- Brookoioioi0
haha... PZ is spot on as ever...
"I do have a few questions, though.
I'm wondering why the Discovery Institute would be so enthused about this movie. It lays it's premise on the line: science is flawed because it excludes god and the supernatural. It's one big promo for religion — which means it's going to further undercut Intelligent Design creationism's claims to be a secular idea."
"Why were they so dishonest about it? If Mathis had said outright that he wants to interview an atheist and outspoken critic of Intelligent Design for a film he was making about how ID is unfairly excluded from academe, I would have said, "bring it on!" We would have had a good, pugnacious argument on tape that directly addresses the claims of his movie, and it would have been a better (at least, more honest and more relevant) sequence. He would have also been more likely to get that good ol' wild-haired, bulgy-eyed furious John Brown of the Godless vision than the usual mild-mannered professor that he did tape. And I probably would have been more aggressive with a plainly stated disagreement between us."
"Oh, well. I have two warnings for the creationists.
One, I will go see this movie, and I will cheer loudly at my 30 seconds or whatever on the screen, and I will certainly disembowel its arguments here and in any print venue that wants me. That's going to be fun."
Yes, looking forward to it.
- lemmys_wart0
I suppose we should see ole' monotones defense of larry craig while were at it.
- lemmys_wart0
P Z Myers on that new creationist film with Ben Stein.
tinyurl.com/2t3l7g
Brookoioioi
(Sep 1 07, 10:26)"I mean, seriously, not telling one of the sides in a debate about what the subject might be and then leading him around randomly to various topics, with the intent of later editing it down to the parts that just make the points you want, is the video version of quote-mining and is fundamentally dishonest. "
Nice.
- Nairn0
pah.
- flagellum0
and thank you brookoioi for further demonstrating your lack of credibility by citing the ultimate laughing stock of Darwinian nature-worshippers (both Darwinists and IDers alike, think he's uber nutjob).
I'm actually convinced he is an employee of the Discovery Institute. With enemies like him, who needs friends!
:)
- flagellum0
Thinking people on that chance-happy, atheist loony - PZ Myers:
- Brookoioioi0
P Z Myers on that new creationist film with Ben Stein.
- mrdobolina0
Ben Stein was a speech writer and lawyer for Richard Nixon, must be a great guy.
- ukit0
Ben Stein with Bad to the Bone soundtrack, oh dear.
mrdobolina
(Aug 31 07, 11:20)*shudders at the thought of entire movie narrated by Ben Stein*
- ethered0
i knew it! All hail thread messiah! Now save me from making bad threads and other goodies.
- mrdobolina0
haha wtf
- TheBlueOne0
This thread's been resurrected more times than Jesus!!
In fact, this is the Thread Messiah of which we were promised!!
All Hail Thread Messiah!! Glorius Est Em Rectumest!! Spread the Good Thread!! I wish Good Thread Upon Ye Brothers...
- mrdobolina0
Ben Stein with Bad to the Bone soundtrack, oh dear.
- ukit0
Man I can't wait for this movie - it's gonna be awesome...
- flagellum0
Actually, that's just plain factual data, Adam and Eve or not.
The post-Fall evidence points in all manner of directions though. Just look at the Geologic column. Which is why I'm an "Whenever-Earth Creationist".
- Mimio0
Neat-o idea, too bad the evidence points in another direction.
- flagellum0
Two people having the right mix of dominant and recessive genes for the amount of melanin, all shades of colour in humans could arise. Thus, if Adam and Eve were both a middle-brown colour, all shades from black through to white could be accounted for in their children and future generations.
In a similar sort of way, if Adam had blood group ‘A’, and Eve had blood group ‘B’, all of the ‘ABO’ blood groups (A, AS, B. O) could arise.
- Mimio0
I don't even know what to say.
Even is they we factually trying to portray the first breeding pair of humans, they would know that mitochondrial DNA proves that the first human had very dark complexions like modern Africans, since that's the human group with the most genetic diversity.
But let's face it, these "museum curators" are fascinatingly delusional.