Hydro74
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- morilla0
this should have never been brought out in the open in the first place.
- Bullitt0
Hewmiri, I cant understand why you sent him 7 emails. Pick up the phone next time you lazy cunt. I've been in a similar situation with 2 contracts recently. I send an email in the morning, If I've got no reply by the afternoon, I phone them up. I then receive an email 30 minutes later apologising for the delay and the money has been wired to my account or a cheque's in the post.
- johndiggity0
don't work. it's all a scam.
- gramme0
never do spec work for any reason ever, unless you aren't concerned about being able to support yourself and possibly a family.
Even then, anal bleaching could be a more promising career move.
- breathe0
In regard to the money, it isn't the main aspect of this thread. Nonetheless, I think the industry is becoming more and more competitive. People working for peanuts as we're very global and wages vary country to country. I also see many designers almost offering to work for free for big firms, and I do not get it totally because that is contributing to how businesses are dealt with in the future. This, becoming a problem for anyone to make a decent living and getting what they are worth.
If the money is peanuts or not, I believe each person has a choice. We all need to make money, but if it isn't right for you than do not accept. Hydro74 isn't obligating you to work on those terms. So those are my thoughts. If less people work for that amount, than the firms and clients will have to agree on other terms...maybe more equal and favorable to both parties.
That is my two cents. I know when I saw the amount I nearly flipped too :) But it is besides the issue.
- PonyBoy0
multiples, baby!
- PonyBoy0
multiples, baby!
- PonyBoy0
multiples, baby!
- breathe0
First of all, despite how upset you are for not getting paid yet, I do not think making a public announcement after two months of waiting appropriate or professional manner to resolve this. This is something internal, and should be kept between two parties. Two months is a short time frame. If you were waiting a year, and had tried calling, and emailing, than maybe, and even than I've had unpleasant situations with people flaking on me and I never went public. Going public can sometimes backfire, because you read one side, but there is another side of the story. And people end up taking sides, and sometimes not in your favor even if you are the victim.
2nd, you should have a contract, some agreement even for comps. That should protect ethical and professional matters, and even then people/companies can decide not to pay. You can try calling, try other routes before making this a live post on News Today.
3rd, if all fails with trying to get your payment in, than you have a decision to go live, but I would definitely not suggest after two months. Most companies do not pay right after, and depending on the agreement of this work from start (not just verbal)...many times you ask for a deposit and that is on contract. Which should protect you. And I'm sure hydro74 doesn't want their company to be defamed like this, so you could have warned them or advised about your actions. Not sure if that was the case.
4th, unfortunately small to big firms in the industry can fail on their behalf. From sending payments to hiring people who fail. I've hired people who do not get the job done even with a contract. And I do not get it.
And the main issue in this situation seems to be lack of communication. One side avoids to buy time, and the other person who is waiting on cheque goes nuts. So if there is some communication and understanding, I'm sure even with some delays you'd at least be hopeful that Hydro74 would pay you and inform you when that could be with apologies.
As much as I sympathize with someone leaving you hanging, wished that didn't happen, being professional can also be shown by the person waiting to receive money and how they react to situations/crises. That can also reflect on your future work. And by all means if this was the right step for you, than okay. Just hope Hydro74 can inform you about the payment and resolve this, so it isn't a gossip column on who did what and left me hanging.
Good luck with resolving this.
- breathe0
First of all, despite how upset you are for not getting paid yet, I do not think making a public announcement after two months of waiting appropriate or professional manner to resolve this. This is something internal, and should be kept between two parties. Two months is a short time frame. If you were waiting a year, and had tried calling, and emailing, than maybe, and even than I've had unpleasant situations with people flaking on me and I never went public. Going public can sometimes backfire, because you read one side, but there is another side of the story. And people end up taking sides, and sometimes not in your favor even if you are the victim.
2nd, you should have a contract, some agreement even for comps. That should protect ethical and professional matters, and even then people/companies can decide not to pay. You can try calling, try other routes before making this a live post on News Today.
3rd, if all fails with trying to get your payment in, than you have a decision to go live, but I would definitely not suggest after two months. Most companies do not pay right after, and depending on the agreement of this work from start (not just verbal)...many times you ask for a deposit and that is on contract. Which should protect you. And I'm sure hydro74 doesn't want their company to be defamed like this, so you could have warned them or advised about your actions. Not sure if that was the case.
4th, unfortunately small to big firms in the industry can fail on their behalf. From sending payments to hiring people who fail. I've hired people who do not get the job done even with a contract. And I do not get it.
And the main issue in this situation seems to be lack of communication. One side avoids to buy time, and the other person who is waiting on cheque goes nuts. So if there is some communication and understanding, I'm sure even with some delays you'd at least be hopeful that Hydro74 would pay you and inform you when that could be with apologies.
As much as I sympathize with someone leaving you hanging, wished that didn't happen, being professional can also be shown by the person waiting to receive money and how they react to situations/crises. That can also reflect on your future work. And by all means if this was the right step for you, than okay. Just hope Hydro74 can inform you about the payment and resolve this, so it isn't a gossip column on who did what and left me hanging.
Good luck with resolving this.
- monNom0
I should follow that up by say, t-shirts seem to have a real low fee, no matter who's doing them.
- monNom0
I am just curious
its just surprising that anyone who is experienced or not will do work for that little amount are still around..
MrD
(May 14 07, 11:05)Different industries... ever seen how much people working in comics make? PEANUTS!
(pun intended)
$200/page is big money... that page might take 10-15hours work.
- TheBlueOne0
where's that confounded bridge?
- kingjulien0
does anybody remember laughter?
- PonyBoy0
what the?...
... I didn't post that first one...
.. huh?... wha?
- PonyBoy0
ponyboy, I'm owed that from my 300 foot logo. It had to be shipped cross country in seven tractor trailers
Rand
(May 14 07, 11:14)
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you know... now that I think about it... I 'designed' to your art direction rather well, sir...... I think you OWE ME, FELLA!
:D
- PonyBoy0
ponyboy, I'm owed that from my 300 foot logo. It had to be shipped cross country in seven tractor trailers
Rand
(May 14 07, 11:14)
- Geith0
never do spec work!
- Point50
All I know, is I have a t-shirt with an angry, blind panda on it and Hydro illustrated the design.
haute fiyah.
- johndiggity0
you designed the logo for 300?