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- Kuz0
Today~~Private Wedding. Please Worship Elswhere
- paraselene0
i never posited any such thing.
i have faith in a primordial universal energy that will put the smackdown on me if i don't throw spilt salt over my left shoulder.
- Kuz0
i think we're talking about faith in a supernatural entity.
not faith as in "i have faith that mike will be miserable today."
stop playing word games you little monkey!
- paraselene0
you have faith in a primordial universal energy that will put the smackdown on you if you bugger kuz (irrespective of how much he wants you to).
- Kuz0
you have faith in a primordial universal energy that will put the smackdown on you if you bugger kuz (irrespective of how much he wants you to).
paraselene
(Sep 14 05, 06:37):O! does that apply to EVERYONE????
- discipler0
The legitimacy of faith rests in it's object and the credibilty of that object. The flying spaghetti monster lacks credibility, i.e. there is no historical evidence to support it's existance, it is not responsible for countless changed lives, or the division of history, there are not miraculously preserved manuscripts with fulfilled prophecy and which stand up under the scrutiny of textual criticism which support it's existance, etc... etc...
- cosmo0
lets just watch Bill O'Reilly and we all shall be happy.
- ilovepill0
100!
:)
- discipler0
primordial energy requires a causal factor. :)
- skt0
I have faith.....
...adams in my wardrobe. Ok so its not really her. Just a sort of shrine / collection.
- Kuz0
to sum up what disicpler said.
faith isn't supersition, because the bible is really really old.
- paraselene0
primordial energy requires a causal factor. :)
discipler
(Sep 14 05, 06:41)how do you know that?
- paraselene0
sod my ignorance!
i had to google faith adams.
- unfittoprint0
difference between creationsim & ID?
startreck / startreck filmed with hand-held cameras
bullshit with an edge.
- discipler0
how does a mindless "primordial energy" create itself and maintain it's existance? How do you answer that without arriving at an infinite regression of causes? (which end in an infinite regression of effects).
kuz - nice try at dumbing down a multifaceted and cogent case for the existance of a creator. ;)
- discipler0
brilliant, unfitt. Now, please... give me some details as to how you arrived at such a scientific conclusion.
- Kuz0
kuz - nice try at dumbing down a multifaceted and cogent case for the existance of a creator. ;)
discipler
(Sep 14 05, 06:55)multifaceted?? hardly. you're argument for your faith in christianity, jesus, adam and eve, noah, abraham, samson and all that superstitious nonsence is based on what you see as the "historical evidence" in the bible. eg, the name Abraham (or something remotely similar to it) incribed somewhere in Ur. I could just as well be a Hindu since the Mahrabarta (which predates the stories of the bible) tells the epic struggle of the Aryan tribes from the north displacing the Dravidians of the subcontinent - which is also historically accurate as the heroes within that story existed and did mad cool shit. Simply, your supersitions are many and interlocking. That is all.
Your argument that faith is based on "changing countless lives" is self negating, since you have to have faith to believe that your god is responsible for that, rather than just silly people made all happy with silly things.
- Kuz0
brilliant, unfitt. Now, please... give me some details as to how you arrived at such a scientific conclusion.
discipler
(Sep 14 05, 06:55)it's a metaphor u dumbass.
- unfittoprint0
how about
my faith is better than yours [?].
- discipler0
kuz, wrong as usual.
What you have in the pale of evidence in support of biblical Christianity is far from matched by any world religion. You cite one obscure archaeological reference and ignore the overwhelming manuscript evidence in the likes of Codex Vaticanus and Codex Siniaticus, for starters. ONLY the manuscript evidence in support of the Bible stands up under the science of textual criticism (which might explain why the scores of brilliant phD's who accept it as the inspired and infallible word of God). The writings of world religions, do not. Fact. You would do well to take some time and study that actual facts on this issue and how the manuscript evidence stands in stark contrast from other writings.
"Silly people made all happy with silly things" is hardly a conclusive or satisfactory explanation for the millions of people who claim radical life change due to Christ as well as a daily walk with the person of Christ. It also fails to account for how 12 frightened and scattered disciples, suddenly were willing to give their lives for a faith which would ultimately turn the world upside down and split history.
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