Evolution Schmevolution
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- mrdobolina0
I enjoy how you christies love to play the victim all the time.
- mrdobolina0
your beliefs are exactly in line with robertson's on both issues.
must feel nice.
- Dr_Jay0
Hmmm... I missed the first one... I'll check it out tonight (Tue.).
Kurt Vonnegut is on tonight. Happy to see the old fart is still kicking.
- discipler0
hehe, fun AND productive, paraselene. ;)
shankz - Intelligent Design is simply the detection of purposed design in biological systems. It is neither a philosophical argument, nor a religious one.
mrdobs - it is not true that world religions have countless proponents who tout changed hearts and lives thru a relationship. What you do have is people earnestly trying to perform appease angry gods and somehow gain their approval thru ritualism.
- discipler0
i enjoy how you atheists love to use derogatory expressions about those you disagree with all the time. ;)
- Crouwel0
CAN SOMEONE POST A FUCKING LINK?
thank you.
:)
- gruntt0
personally it cracked me up.
it'll be ongoing all week ya know?
- mrdobolina0
"mrdobs - it is not true that world religions have countless proponents who tout changed hearts and lives thru a relationship. What you do have is people earnestly trying to perform appease angry gods and somehow gain their approval thru ritualism.
discipler
(Sep 14 05, 07:41)---
Are you saying that there aren't 'god-fearing' christians?
My point is, if you dont believe, you won't be let into the heavenly after-life. Is that not a scare tactic?
- Nairn0
I will always concede the validity of the Ultimately Unknowable Root Cause possibly being 'a Creator'.
This being the case, Discipler -
you must accept the 'Statistical Fact' that
the God you believe in is so utterly different to what you believe you envisage as to make your stance not only ironic but laughable.God = a Maybe (but I hope not)
Religion, and the majority of belief = a morass of mythology to help the mindless through the day.
- Kuz0
so discipler, to reiterate yet again,
"Christianity is faith not superstition, because sections of the bible are historically accurate"
but go on, have the last word by saying unrelated things ;)
- fate_0
I thought it was funny. Poignant as well. Stewart is preaching to the choir, but it's still refreshing.
- Mal0
Why do you come here Discipler?
You only ever preach and never participate in any other way surely your time would be better served conversing with like minded people. because you are wasting your time here.
- Nairn0
"i enjoy how you atheists love to use derogatory expressions about those you disagree with all the time. ;)
discipler "Ah, 'the Christian' - the World's most sanctimonious creature.
- Kuz0
discipler i know countless, fucking COUNTLESS of crazy kids who spent their lives on drugs and alcohol then found Islam and felt redeemed.
- discipler0
I know nothing of Pat Robertson. Only that he makes foolish statements quite often.
- Mal0
funny shit
- discipler0
Nairn (and kuz)-
The point I would make is that, when one combines: scientific discovery with the unique claims of Christ, the fulfilled prophecy in the biblical record, the unique and uncanny reliability of the manuscript evidence... it is not illogical or without merit to suggest that the designer (causal factor) looks suspiciously like the God of the Bible.
And nairn, I would agree that world religions are little more than mythology or a crutch for the masses. My argument is that the Bible (and subsequent claims of Christ) stand in an altogether different category.
- discipler0
that being said, I know mrdobs, how you like to compartmentalize all people of faith. Helps with one's political archetype that way. ;)
- discipler0
agreed, kuz. My point was that changed life (as ambiguous a term as that is) BY ITSELF does not build a cogent case for the Christian faith. It's the collective evidence and the unique claims of Christ PLUS the "heart transformation", that build the case.
Mal - I come here because believe it or not, I'm a designer. Albeit not a very good one. I constantly peruse the design related threads. It's only these types of topics (which i don't start) that compell me to post. :) Sorry if that offends you.
- Kuz0
The point I would make is that, when one combines: scientific discovery with the unique claims of Christ, the fulfilled prophecy in the biblical record, the unique and uncanny reliability of the manuscript evidence... it is not illogical or without merit to suggest that the designer (causal factor) looks suspiciously like the God of the Bible.
================what unique claims prophesised and scientifically proven? is that like when beardy muslims used to say to me "the koran said the earth goes around the sun 500 years before copernicus! see? scientif validation"
this'll be fun....