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- discipler0
There again, kes... your ignorance does not help your position. If you're going to cut n' paste, at least leave your commentary out of it... would make what you're trying to communicate seem a tad more credible if you did. :)
- TheTick0
Discipler - you are a cunning linguist, and I mean that as a compliment. But all creationists and fundies are. You use the word "objection" like we have something against the christian faith. I don't object to the christian faith or your beliefs at all. I object to religion being taught as science. It's all rhetoric and semantics - Plato's evil step children you be...
As I stated in a previous thread - for the majority of the world's population in CHina and India who are studying tech, math and science with everythin gthey have and don't give one crap about jesus or being saved - they are quite happy with their buddhist and hindu religions - will be laughing hteir asses off as in a decade or so all the americans will try to argue with them about the 6,000 year old fossils as theey're colonizing the moon.
Thanks for doing your small part to clusterf*** America.
- Kes0
i've "rebutted" everything you said so far, if you want gimme 1 point and i'll put you wrong for all to see.
it's no problem for me.
- mrdobolina0
how old are petrified forests, discipler?
- subflux0
Hi discipler :-)
I could go on about Anagenetic speciation, Cladogenesis, Alloptric or perapatric branching, etc (yes, I was a bio major), but I'm not sure that we're even arguing about evoultion/creationism here, what we're REALLY talking about is literal interpretation of the word vs understanding of the lessons being taught. In the end, evolution is a great discussion for over a beer, but I doubt we'll ever convince each other :-)
for me, I always try to remember that "the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life" and try to keep to the spirit of what is said and not the letter
cheers, discipler! next round on me
- Kes0
There again, kes... your ignorance does not help your position. If you're going to cut n' paste, at least leave your commentary out of it... would make what you're trying to communicate seem a tad more credible if you did. :)
discipler
(Jun 10 05, 12:51)Oi mother fucker, i'm actually reading. You cunt, you cut and paste everything. I've read all this stuff, it's convinced me, so i pasted bits. And it argues EXACTLY against what you say. So how is that ignoratn?
Twat. Feeling the pressure are you ? Little prick.#
pffffff
*sucks teeth
bwoooy
- bumblefuck0
I have nothing against Christians, and frequently pray to God for salvation, but damn, evangelicals rub me the wrong way
- discipler0
kez, you're incapable of discussing this issue without constant use of cockney sounding insults. I don't see any fruit coming from a debate with you.
And no... I'm afraid you did not "rebutt" my points. You merely cut n pasted your position with gaping holes and all. I hardly scratched the surface on the issues listed above. These are depthy issues, my friend.
- Kes0
true bumblefuck (hehe rand!)
thats why you have to be careful how discipler tries with his dishonest cunning to mix the words Intelligent Design and Creationist./
You can believe in INtelligent Design AND be an evolutionist as well as a Christian.
But if you're a Bible Creationist... well then... God help you!
- TheTick0
Kes - calm down. YOU started this. It was you who wanted Discipler to come out and play. He did, so show some modicum of respect. Disagree, vehemently if neccessary, but the string of expletives is unneccessary and doesn't do your norwegian anscestors proud.
The occasional well placed expletive is much more impressive anyway...
- Kes0
discipler, my cockney insults only appear at your evident lack of ability/willingness to even engage with me. I cut and pastes SOME bits, i.e. evidence for fossil records, because i did not have that level of information on the top of my head, so i cited a source. It is what academics do. They use data and evidence and build upon it.
You have a very annoying way of being derogatory and insulting whilst still seeming sanctamonious.
- discipler0
cheers, subflux. ;)
- Kes0
oi Tick - my ancestors are punjabi not friggin norwegians! ;)
- TheTick0
It's funny - that christianity has a rich and varied history with all sorts of offchoots and so forth. Eventuallt all of them calm down and play nice nice. But these american fundies man, tey're young, theologically speaing. They got the fire of god in 'em, and they think they've got the whole christian thing figured out.
Lots of christian groups did that in the past - led to stake burnings, inquisitions and crusades. They mistake the map for the territory so to speak.
They haven't gotten around to burning anyone quite yet, but I am sure they will. Bush did mention "crusade" and then said "Oops...".
After much division and hatred and killin in the name of god they'll play nice until the next group of christians come along who "really" know what god wanted will have the fir o' god in 'em. They'll probably be burning disciplers grandson.
More things change, more they stay the same...
God have mercy on us all...
- subflux0
and I kinda like Kes' cockney insults...gives the whole discussion a monty python sorta vibe...
....I'm just too "friday" right now to work up a froth over this....good thing it isn't monday....then you'd hear it....get all parthenogenesis on y'all...
- discipler0
haha kes, you pasted thousands of words covering various topics which are discussions in themselves! I hardly have the time to read that, let alone make a reasoned case in response! I would not do the same to you - cutting and pasting gargantuan treatments on numerous topics in one post. Though the info is there for me to present.
Now, if you'd like to respectfully, intelligently a SPECIFIC issue relating to creationism or ID, I'm game.
- TheTick0
Kes - apologies to you and the punjabi anscestors of yours. No offense...
- slinky0
"They use data and evidence and build upon it."
Kes, be careful about the foundations you build things upon. All foundations built by man are weak and often crumble.
- subflux0
Amen, Tick
[salutes TheTick with a ice cold mug in my hyper-evolved fist]
- k770
arguing on the internet is like the special olympics. even if you win?
you're still retarded.