Creationist Lies
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- Kes
"Creationism was never based primarily upon scientific findings or upon a scientific approach to uncovering the origins of life. Many modern forms of creationism, particulary Young Earth Christian creationism, were created to defend the literal interpretation of the biblical account of creation in genesis, when evolution started to become scientific orthodoxy. Many modern creationists are widely regarded as 'anti evolutionists' rather than as people putting forward an honest alternative to explain the origins of life. Indeed, many creationist and anti-evolutionist arguments are directed in the form of attacks towards evolutionary theories.
Creationists sometimes minimize the explanatory power and validity of evolution theory by criticizing it as being "just a theory" implying that the word "theory" is synonymous with "conjecture" or "speculation", instead of the technical, scientifically accepted use of the word "theory" to mean a model of the world (or some portion of it) from which falsifiable hypotheses can be generated and be verified through empirical observation. In this sense, evolution is a very powerful theory.
Critics charge that Creationism is not a theory that has come about through a similar systematic accumulation of evidence. It is based on a literal interpretation of religious scripture and the emphasis of scripture over other sources of knowledge. Young Earth Creationism also fails the criteria of falsifiability and parsimony. While the hypothesis that the Earth is only a few thousand years old allows many predictions, evidence which refutes these predictions cannot invalidate creationism, because creationism itself is a belief and not a scientific theory. The belief can persist in spite of evidence to the contrary.
There is a fundamental difference between the scientific approach and the approach used by creationist advocates. The scientific approach uses the Scientific Method as a means of discovering information about the natural world. Scientists use observations, hypotheses and deductions to propose explanations for natural phenomena in the form of theories. Predictions from these theories are tested by experiment. If a prediction turns out to be correct, the theory survives. This is a meritocratic form of systematic enquiry, where the best ideas supported by evidence and positive experimental results survive. Science does not seek answers that fit a certain theory.
All scientific theories are falsifiable; that is, if evidence that contradicts any given theory comes to light, or if the theory is proven to no longer fit with the evidence, the theory itself is shown to be invalid. Evolution is a theory that its supporters say fits in with all known biological evidence, fits in with all known genetic evidence, and is backed up by overwhelming evidence in the fossil record. Contrary to some claims, transitional fossils exist that show a gradual change from one species to another. Because of this and other evidence, there is little debate within scientific circles as to whether evolution is a fact or not. It is mainly in the public sphere, where young Earth creationists (especially in America) have fought for recognition of their world view, that the debate about creationism and evolution rages."
- opiate0
Get a load of this crap. Heard it on the radio yesterday.
- QuincyArcher0
man, i could've sworn this was a design forum...
- TheTick0
Here discipler, discipler, discipler. Won't you come out and plaaaa-iyyyeeee
- Kes0
Quincy... wrong!
- opiate0
I think it's because its friday
- QuincyArcher0
i'm wrong? this isn't a design forum?
- Kes0
relax man it's friday. designs a very small percentage of what gets talked here. you should know that. sad? go hate on the NBA thread or sumfink. LEAVE MINE ALONE!
:)
- fusion410
I saw an interesting show about life trapped in fosillized amber. One interesting thing was that the insects and plants which dated back millions of years were exactly the same as they are now. Even the symbiotic relationship between certain species was completely unchanged.
While I am not a "Creationist" I do believe that we and all life was created.
- JazX0
you must really want to stir up discipler. hahaa
- discipler0
Kes, were you looking for a point by point rebuttal to your above cut n' paste, or... ?
- QuincyArcher0
heh, fine...i just think there's been enough discussion on the topic.
but it might be kinda fun to see dicipler and mimio butt heads again...
- TheTick0
Hey there he is!!!
Discipler - no preaching today! We just missed you and we're calling you out. nO REBUTTALS...Peace brother peace...
- discipler0
Come now, I never preach... I just respond to objections. :)
- Kes0
go on discipler, a point by point rebuttal,
let's see, i got an hour or so
hit me negro
- TheTick0
What? Us? Object? Never...
- TheTick0
And discipler I am very disappointed - it took you aprox 28 minutes to arrive. You're slipping...
- TheTick0
Hey..where did the Al Queda thread go? It disappered from PVN ? OK now I'm getting freaked...
- Kes0
i said i got an hour......
- JazX0
hey ask CTRL how his username is doing? hahha
- CTRL0
The other thread was too hot QBN. I think they don't like political stuff. So there you go.