National ID Cards
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- randoman
I'm failing to understand the resistance to National ID cards. If anything they will make life easier (by having to only carry one form of ID) and safer (by preventing the issuing of false documents, the use of stolen documents by a 3rd party).
If you think about it we already have so many forms of ID; birth cirtificates, SS cards, drivers license, passports, etc.. I think it would be more efficiant to have one fool proof form of ID that is more secure and personal than what we have now. Not to mention the fact on how easy it is to have a 3rd party assume your ID and aquire more documents with something as simple as your birth certificate.
The fact that the governement seemed to pass the bill in the shadows is concerning, but I'm just wondering why there was so little support in the first place. Unless I'm missing something.
I think too many people let these 1984 type sci-fi stories distort the truth.
Wake up, we are not living under a tyranny that seeks to enslave, track and terrorize it's own citizens.
- rasko40
how totally wierd, literally 2 mins ago I was on this site..
- rasko40
its not so much the ID thing as the whole file building nature of it.
- Visia0
man, I don't even know where to start.
- randoman0
But you see, you already have a file... to be a citizen you have to. At this point it's just disjointed and sloppy with so many forms of ID. I was thinking of it more as a means to centralize all of these documents and in doing so, focus the security and handeling of the information into one place.
As far as biometrics... woulden't you feel safer knowing that your the only one who can be linked to your ID?
I've personally lost my SS card, birth certificates, passport, you name it (I'm not a very organized person) and don't feel very secure knowing that it would fall into someone elses hands.
At least if you lose this thing, no one else can use it.
Using the ID card to track you or give away your personal info for mal-intent is another issue.- but thats misuse and not inheriant to the idea of the card itself.
- rasko40
I think it may jeopardise my chances of leading the post apocalyptic revolution, which happens to be my destiny.
- mrdobolina0
Martial Law has been declared
Stay in Your Homes.
- rasko40
I am building up a cache of peashooters, catapults and conkers.
- mrdobolina0
I want retina scans, so I can carry around eyeballs in my pocket.
- rasko40
i thought everyone carried eyeballs around in their pocket?
they go well with the ears on my necklace
- todelete__20
my shirt is itchy
- QuincyArcher0
Martial Law has been declared
Stay in Your Homes.
mrdobolina
(May 10 05, 14:12)SHUT UP! BE HAPPY! obey all orders without question!
i love jello biafra...
but my resistence to national ID cards is three fold.
1. it's been said, we already have so many forms of identification, i don't want another. people are still going to ask for SSN, driver's license, and is some cases birth certificates. I've seen nothing that says that the id cards will consolidate these.
2. RFID chips will be used...which means that your information can be read from afar, without your consent.
3. if you ever lost the thing, you'd be screwed!
- ribit0
remember in some REALLY free countries the police cant demand any ID unless you are operating a motor vehicle or something like that. It's part of a 'small government' approach, and protection against future tyrannical governments.
on the other hand, i'd like to have a really useful ID that can do all sorts of stuff easily...
- olive0
At least you could open a bank account straight away. When I moved to the UK it took me 2 months, and I had already 6000 quid in wages, and they didn't even want to open an account then. This was in 98. A friend of mine (French) was working in London for a year and didn't manage to open an account at all, he did everything with his account in France (which cost him a fortune in exchange)
- rasko40
from another thread:
"Remember that everyone's ass is as unique as a fingerprint."
now theres your answer
- QuincyArcher0
from another thread:
"Remember that everyone's ass is as unique as a fingerprint."
now theres your answer
rasko4
(May 10 05, 14:51)
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more brilliant words have never been uttered.
- randoman0
Well from what I gathered it would consolidate information into one ID which would be optimal. Biometrics is another plus IMO cause like I said it prevents others from using your ID which is essential, and probably the worst case seniro in any circumstance involving ID. I do agree on the RFID tho... having this thing literally broadcast data is not a great idea. I think a simle magnetic strip would be more secure.
As far as someone using the ID or the info on it to track, snoop, or harress you.. sh*t, if someone really wanted to go out of their way to do this they could right now... it's been done since forever and it's called stalking.
- ribit0
related to this.... they've already come up with a solution for the data security on 'smart' passports which still allows fast scanning of data at airports... I think it's something like the data stripe will only give out short-range wireless-data if a laser scanner thing is sending a request to the strip, with a changing encryption key, meaning the passport has to be open to recieve the beam with the encryption information (so theres no way to query the strip over wireless when the passport is closed), and anyone listening in on wireless wont be able to decrypt it.
- jco0
the mark of the beast
vote yes to amendment No. 666 today!
- JazX0
Mine better be pink and have roses around it
- Geith0
I'm all for it. People are way too paranoid. Like the government has the manpower or resources to track the movements of 295,734,134 people (pop as of July 04).