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- Dillinger-1
Gunmen kill 24 in attack on Coptic Christians in Egypt
- utopian1
2 people stabbed to death after confronting a man shouting 'hate speech' at Muslim women on train
Wake up white people!
- Christ sake...how can people get so sold to this corrupt system?
I'd like to say poor education but the upper class are worse.
We all need a changemugwart - White people need to do more to root out extremism in their communitylowimpakt
- he was probably radicalized by all the anti-white 'hate speech'IRNlun6
- More likely emboldened by the alt right movement and trump's rhetoriclowimpakt
- Try to find a social conservative who doesn't believe they're under attack.i_monk
- Christ sake...how can people get so sold to this corrupt system?
- i_monk1
90 dead, 350 injured in embassy bombing in Kabul. German, Canadian embassy significantly damaged.
- moldero0
London bridge apparently right now
- car ran over a bunch of people againmoldero
- ffs, multiple incidents ongoingIRNlun6
- My partner was down there all day long.
Happy fucking days.detritus - Take my kid and girlfriend to the market every weekend. Fucked upmugwart
- this happened already, didn't it..?robotron3k
- yeah like germany or sum couple months backmoldero
- or france? shit time to google againmoldero
- Yea fuck living in London. Sad times.set
- detritus2
Sky news just apologised for having footage which previously ended with an obscenity, so they reshowed the footage which then finished with a loudly exclaimed 'cunt!'.
Place where it was is a German-themed bar I've been to a few times.
Yaay.
- I've a few friends who work at borough market, all through my partner. She's spent the last 2 hours spacking out.detritus
- One says he some of it happen.
Yaay.
Literally, my partner was there 2 hours beforehand. Not happy.detritus - Well, 3 hours I guessdetritus
- Which stalls do they work at? Curious as I'm always there.
Hope none of them were hurt. One of the best parts of London. World units with decent food!mugwart - The Italian-run ones, truffles, drunken cheese, Parma ham and mozzarella stalls, others too. A veritable mafia!detritus
- Mushroom ones? Haaha I get all my shrooms from there!mugwart
- detritus7
Instead of 'terrorism' can we just start calling it 'wankery'? It's all it is.
- wankerismRamanisky2
- The war on wankingset
- Omid Djalili had a pretty good sketch about this, he wants us to call them Nancy Boys.coldarchon
- I prefer cunt attackmugwart
- set1
There really should be a blanket media silence on terrorism from now on. Don't give it any coverage or exposure whatsoever.
But no, of course the scum media won't do that, they thrive on this shit.
- There also needs to be far more discussion and criticism of certain ideas within Islam, without being labelled a racist or bigot.inteliboy
- if the wankers would be ppl of faith they would respect their own religious laws. it's ramadan, so muslims are instructed to refrain from fighting.uan
- But when Ramadan is over, it's completely okay to fight.Claymantis
- srsly asking, is this a positive psychology thing? like don't talk about suicide and it will happen less? what news should be allowed vs censored?sofas
- for example should lousy education, poverty or pollution be covered?sofas
- I am concerend that silencing the issue won't make it go away, and suppressin the discourse will create other problems, but maybe I didn't understandsofas
- reduced reporting for sure - the rolling news is horrible to watch and feeds the problem on all sides.fadein11
- @inteliboy - what media are you reading/watching? the mainstream media in the UK is heavily weighted against Islam - the problems are discusses/criticisedfadein11
- endlessly.fadein11
- I don't see mainstream media weighted heavily against Islam at all. If anything any criticism is quickly met with accusations of islamophobia and bigotry.IRNlun6
- @fadein11 I also think the problem is the broadcasting oligopolies. Give the public access to broadcast what ever they want and mass media's power might declinesofas
- You and I fadein have been arguing about this probably for a couple years now and my position is most definitely in the minority.IRNlun6
- We have social media now. Controlling the news cycle is nearly impossible at this point.IRNlun6
- never talked about this w/ fadein :)
Social media is not an equal alternative, folks don't have journalist privileges, access to broadcast equipment etc.sofas - terrorism thrives on mass fear. fear is best instilled in people through propaganda ie the media apart from the act itself. i'm with @set on this one.renderedred
- @IRNlun6 I agree with you about the Islamophobia claims, but the wider picture includes the context of covering Islam vs others, coverage time and sentimentsofas
- Are criticism of Catholicism met with the same reaction? I'd like to hope what set suggests would help. I just see it as impossible at this point.IRNlun6
- Although I agree sofas on coverage time.IRNlun6
- On second thought, criticism of Catholicism is more widely accepted because they allow it. They sure a hell didn't allow it in the past.IRNlun6
- prsnly I want to be entertained and the news cycle delivers more. It's sick and so is society, but raitings (mixed with propaganda) talk. also chicken and eggsofas
- @IRNInun Catholicism just deals with it differently. They don't accept criticism. Did anything change in regards to rampant pedophilia within their ranks ever?renderedred
- @sofas exactly. media is an industry, ratings are the currency.renderedred
- the Church hired better PRsofas
- and lawyers ;)renderedred
- Fair points. Perhaps it's an unrealistic expectation that any faith would self criticize.IRNlun6
- Catholicism sure didn't deal with their issues with pedophilia from within.IRNlun6
- the difference is we have people gladly blowing themselves up for religion. That's a problem that should be addressed from within, not denied as aformed
- "only 1% are radicals". IMHO, there should be people turned over to intelligence daily on suspicion. It's the only way I see to stop this.formed
- This is were I find the mass media contributing to the problem. For whatever reason they want to push the narrative of nothing to do with Islam.IRNlun6
- In doing so, it also ignores that Muslims are most definitely fighting against this in their own communities.IRNlun6
- Can't quite put it to words. There's a difference between saying a community has nothing to do with an internal problem, but they're dealing with it.IRNlun6
- Vs. acknowledging the problem as well as their efforts to deal with it.IRNlun6
- @IRUNlun6, I agree, and this might be a conspiracy, but maybe not saying it outright increases rage, frustration, anger at PC and vigilante, which fuel raitingssofas
- and support propaganda goalssofas
- @sofas I agree entirely and it's tough to put a finger on why. Does it serve a grander goal of globalization, or more ratings and profit?IRNlun6
- @irn - I said UK media? You live in UK? If so i didnt realise. That being said we were discussing media and all the dominant msm in uk is right leaning and yesfadein11
- The Islam debate is never far from the front pages / screens. UK liberal media is in the minority here. How ironicfadein11
- Liberal as in liberal not the neo variety which so many people seem to confuse these daysfadein11
- I don't live in the UK fadein11 so I'll concede in assuming your media is as biased towards the "left" as in the US. Although I find similarities in narrative.IRNlun6
- Only one thing can be done to stop this, re-write the Koran.robotron3k
- haha - the UK media is biased towards the right - anyone UK citizen will tell you that. And just to be clear for a 3rd time - Islam isfadein11
- under constant scrutiny by it.fadein11
- never a good idea to assume when dealing with v.complex / difficult subjects.fadein11
- Especially when about countries you know little about.fadein11
- I thought you were gonna say "build a wall," or, "ban all muslims," but you surprised me and said something so humanitarian and caring. You never cease to amazemonospaced
- Even the historically left Guardian plays puppet to it's masters these days. Channel 4 news is probably the closest to a left media we have and The Mirror butfadein11
- that's a reactionary redtop.
And don't get me started on the BBC - the most biased of public service broadcasters.fadein11 - Yeah this needs to be part of the discussion. The whole purpose of terrorism is to create a media spectacle and that's exactly what Western media delivers foryuekit
- them. Not that it should be ignored but imagine if it was covered at the same level as any other tragedy, would the number of attacks go up or down as a result?yuekit
- ugh... they're zealots... they do this for GOD not MEDIA ATTENTION. Yeah, the attention furthers their cause... but it's all about their FAITH.PonyBoy
- They're willing to die w/out a second thought... 'ignorantia' isn't a solution, ffs.PonyBoy
- I'm waiting for someone to say 'we just need to help them get jobs and improve their living situations' as a solution for some faith-driven maniac... :/PonyBoy
- No such thing as faith driven in this case. Quran clearly forbids killing innocent civilians. But for the last 100 years Muslim people are massacredBeeswax
- and humiliated by Western powers this is the psychological outcome of this. They are crazy not Muslim or anything. But I blame your gvernments for deliberatelyBeeswax
- pushing people to this stage, For them it's a win win situation.Beeswax
- I'm a lucky Muslim, but if my house was in Palestine or Iraq or Afghanistan and one day "peace powers" killed my beloveds destroy my city I don't know whatBeeswax
- I would turn into. Same for you. This is the result of your countries' dangerous politics.
Don't we all know that west created ISIS, or are we playing dumb?Beeswax - Why are they willing to die, bees? All 3 must be mental patients? Bullshit. It may not be in line w/your beliefs, Bees... these guys died for 'their' God.PonyBoy
- is it the western powers bee, or is it muslim powers? Saudis vs Persians, Sunni vs Shia, everyone vs kurds and all the proxy wars surrounding it?_niko
- yes, george bush was a complete fuck up and the US should never have done what they did, but blaming western powers for the whole mess in the middle east is_niko
- laughable, turn the mirror inwards and see what the real issue is._niko
- there is one nation in the middle east that all western powers kneel down and suck the dick of, why don't you start with that one before casting stones._niko
- detritus0
So three friends saw much of what happened last night.
They saw the really young men running through waving knives in the air and cutting all and anyone at head and neck height. At first they just thought they were young Bermondsey wannabe gangbangers, but then quickly realised, not.
They ran and hid, came out shortly thereafter witnessing bodies on the ground.
My pal P is pretty shaken.
Drinks down there next weekend, and mexican at el pastor.
- i_was0
Terrorist attack now in London.
- Cactus1
- Looks like England has a war going in but nobody wants to say anything.robotron3k
- war it is.sureshot
- A friend of Sadiqi_was
- yuekit0
All this talk of getting tough on terrorism and yet...
An investigation into the foreign funding of extremist Islamist groups may never be published
- for some reason they don't like talks about those shady links
https://www.youtube.…uan
- for some reason they don't like talks about those shady links
- Beeswax-1
Did UK funded jihadists?
Yes.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-n…
Did US created ISIS & Al-Qaida?
Yes.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/ame…
Did Israel benefit from these groups?
Yes.
Did this video not leaked?
Yesso how come anybody still claims that Quran commands killing of innocents?
I mean most of you are pretty ignorant right and some of you are not ignorant but biased because of anti-religion, atheism, but don't you know that for over 1400 years a big part of Spain, all of Balkans, Israel, North Africa, Middle East, Persia up to China and all the other religions lived in these places lived under Muslim Empires?
They had their Churches, they had their Synagogs, Ottomans helped bring Jews to Israel that were running away from Spanish expulsion. Moors created universities that all the scholars of different religions worked together.
In Middle ages, under a monarchy run by Sharia Law, no non-muslims killed, harrased, massacred. Their rights protected by the law of Quran, so much that they actually became the richest of their societies because they were not obligated to join wars or army.
If it was ordered in Quran don't you think they would wipe of all the other religions, destroy they temples?
There's no such thing in Quran.
For this reason Islam was the religion of peace until this century. Until first, they got pillaged by colonialists, then industrialists and lastly capitalists. You can squeeze communists somewhere as well.Go to Egypt as a tourist, travel to Turkey, Morocco even Iran. No one would touch you, they would welcome you more than your mom welcomes you, but ask them what they think about the Western powers.
They are not as idiot as some the people on QBN, they won't say Bible or Torah says such and such so we got ruined by their military attacks.
They know how to separate the outcomes of a political propaganda or a political agenda of Western countries from the citizens of those countries.
They won't attack your book or your belief. But they will attack your single perspective views on the world. Just like I do.- Read. http://www.jewishvir…Beeswax
- You're right, but expect lots of downvotes from the idiots...set
- Learn.
https://en.wikipedia…Beeswax - Do islam respect other religions?
https://www.quora.co…Beeswax - re the vid:
https://www.metabunk…Gnash - ok lets accept the video is fake. ISIS members cut heads.Beeswax
- True though. greece was under ottoman rule for over 400 years yet able to keep their religion.Gnash
- All this massive propaganda against Muslims must be serving some purpose right. Coz it doesn't really help any muslims. Who benefits from this?Beeswax
- nobody is born an extremist. There are no baby fundamentalist. They are all good law abiding peaceful Muslims. Then they snap. How do you know who's next?_niko
- And we could say that the villification of Islam is Isis ultimate goal to unite all Muslims against non believers for a final apocalyptic battle_niko
- But what do you do in the mean time? Sing kumbia with your dick in your hand waiting for the next idiot to blow himself and your children up?_niko
- And giving everyone a lesson on how Islam was so great 1000 years ago is like saying we shouldn't trust the swedes because they were blood thirsty marauders in_niko
- The dark ages. This is 2017. If we're still killing each other over bullshit religion then we might as well still be in the dark ages._niko
- Atheism is not anti-religion. I believe there is no god, so if you're asking for respect for others' beliefs, please show some respect for others' beliefs.sr_rosa
- We're all just humans at the end of the day...history shows atheists, Christians and Muslims are all capable of doing horrible things.yuekit
- However trying to excuse all Muslims of any responsibility and saying ISIS was made up in a CIA movie studio might be going a bit far.yuekit
- If you've ever had to organise a meeting, you'll know this kind of undertaking wouldn't be possible.monoboy
- People talk. However, agree that we're no hearing the truth. This is about money and power, not religion.monoboy
- ^ yep.mugwart
- You fucking morons, this was for a movie. LOLseverian
- yuekit1
^ Isn't that first link actually saying that Saudi Arabia funds Muslim extremism?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-n…
“It is no secret that Saudi Arabia in particular provides funding to hundreds of mosques in the UK, espousing a very hardline Wahhabist interpretation of Islam. It is often in these institutions that British extremism takes root.”
The Saudis along with Qatar have also been trying to overthrow Assad in Syria and a major part of this was funding and arming Islamist fighters including ISIS. Part of the war of Sunni Muslim countries against Iran.
This was even directly stated by Hilary Clinton in the Wikileaks emails:
"we need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region."
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-em…
Of course the US and UK give money and sell weapons to the Saudis (Trump just made the largest weapons sale in history to them). And they appear to be covering for them, otherwise why is this not a much bigger story considering how much the media talks about ISIS.
- Aside from selling weapons to Saudi an end to the decades long bombing and general fucking up of the region may help matters.fadein11
- #Pray For Middle East ?Dillinger
- It's all a charade. Fund this one, fund that one, on and on it goes...if we cared to sort it out we could, but solutions serve few.formed
- monoboy3
Once again. Second generation, born and bred in the UK. Radicalised and known the the Police.
Keen Arsenal fan, who wore a football top whilst carrying out the attacks. If that's true, how much more Haram can you be? During Ramadan too.
These pricks are living in some sort of martyrdom fantasy whilst actively participating in British culture. It's properly twisted.
- *It is not clear if he was born in the UK or abroad.monoboy
- *and first generationmonoboy
- 'martyrdom fantasy' is a good term for what these imagination-less pricks suffer.detritus
- Born in Pakistanfadein11
- according to the article he got kicked out of mosques, two neighbors went to police about his radical behaviours and scotland yard waited for him to do smtng.Beeswax
- this reminded me of former Turkish prime minister once saying "we can't arrest suicide bombers before they blow themselves up"Beeswax
- there should be a three strike rule, they easily give themselves away before commiting a crime. one or two signs could be a mistake but after third pack them upBeeswax
- and drop them on the sahara.Beeswax
- https://www.youtube.…mugwart
- It's easy to apply your own rhetoric to a person when they're shot dead with no trial.robthelad
- Gardener4
- They forgot
#PrayForAmerica - 20 January 2017kona - how about #actfor or #stopPraying and actually do something for_niko
- cause the customer service there is absolutely shit. There hasn't been a prayer answered in over 3000 years, and I thought Bell was bad._niko
- praying works thodopepope
- #Pray for whateveri_was
- lol @ praying worksmonospaced
- They forgot
- chukkaphob14
London attack: Football fan shouted 'F*** you, I’m Millwall' and took on knife-wielding terrorists with his bare fists
http://www.independent.co.uk/new…
- cool guy! respect!renderedred
- balls of steel!utopian
- O'doyle rules!moldero
- he was drunkdrgs
- I'm Millwall ?i_was
- @i_was - UK football team with very 'passionate' fansfadein11
- for 'passionate' read 'love a bit of argy-bargy'hans_glib
- THIS GUY! ... and the guy at Glasgow Airport attack who stopped the terrorist by booting him in the balls.microkorg
- Is he a real person?robthelad
- ^ looks quite real .. head, hair, two eyes, two arms, ears .. certainly doesn't look like paper mache.microkorg
- i_was0
#pray for notre dame
- detritus0
No #PreyForTehran ?
- 'prey'
bit bleak that, innit?face_melter - Meh. Praying is so 10th century.Continuity
- haha, whoops, Freud be damned!detritus
- Shit just got real, don't be surprised if Iran hits back at the Saudis next. They did assassinate a prominate Shia cleric last year as well and Iran was pissed_niko
- its on like donkey kong. Power play in the middle eastDillinger
- Saudi pushing for regime change in Qatar too.Dillinger
- Pretty much what i thought when I read it, _Niko. Given our shitty alliance with SA here in the UK and US, it's all a bit despairing.detritus
- ...not that the gay-killing, pre-execution female virgin-raping sky-daddy regime in Iran's much better.detritus
- 'prey'