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  • BusterBoy12

    What kind of fucking filth would attack a group of young teenagers...mainly girls. Fuck me this makes me sick to my stomach but enraged. My daughter goes to these concerts and now she has to worry about getting fucking blown up?

    Fuck me the world is a cunt of a place at times.

    • yupmoldero
    • Most likely homegrown dirtbag criminals doing it in the name of Isis for street cred or martyrdom. No amount of bombs dropped on Syria can prevent shit like thi_niko
    • How do you think British law enforcement will respond?robotron3k
    • With security theatre.i_monk
    • idk, deranged fan? there was that one guy obsessed with bjork. it was after the show, no?Squiddy
    • I suspect as well, security theater. The Brits don't blink at stuff like this but the West is at war and we don't realize it.robotron3k
    • homegrown dirtbags all have one thing in common. second generation immigrants who don't assimilate.hotroddy
    • large gatherings make me nervous for this very reason -- basically after the french concert situation last year. I don't think it'll be an isolated incidentshellie
    • especially since it gets so much attention and it's hard to totally secure huge crowds like that. People still have to get in/out of the building.shellie
    • STFU robo. Don't blink at this? Talk about things you know anything about you moronfadein11
    • its hard to kill an invisible ennemy...Bennn
    • Fadein, you have no shortage of opinions on americans. it's a little rich for you to admonish robo for doing the same thing.Gnash
    • Lol at qbn "discussions". Armchair activists activate!imbecile
    • @gnash - I love America in so many ways but yep you are right - I am not so keen on Christian right-wing Americans. As I am not keen on right-wing Brits (it'sfadein11
    • not so tied into religion over here). So if that's what you mean - you are correct.fadein11
    • How surprising, turns out a Muslim did the bombing.robotron3k
    • `^ https://i.imgflip.co…sureshot
    • We all knew it was a radicalised muslim right away - what's your point?fadein11
  • chukkaphob14

    London attack: Football fan shouted 'F*** you, I’m Millwall' and took on knife-wielding terrorists with his bare fists

    http://www.independent.co.uk/new…

    • cool guy! respect!renderedred
    • balls of steel!utopian
    • O'doyle rules!moldero
    • he was drunkdrgs
    • I'm Millwall ?i_was
    • @i_was - UK football team with very 'passionate' fansfadein11
    • for 'passionate' read 'love a bit of argy-bargy'hans_glib
    • THIS GUY! ... and the guy at Glasgow Airport attack who stopped the terrorist by booting him in the balls.microkorg
    • Is he a real person?robthelad
    • ^ looks quite real .. head, hair, two eyes, two arms, ears .. certainly doesn't look like paper mache.microkorg
  • chukkaphob4

    Terror attack in New York: Footage shows the moment pipe bomb malfunctions and explodes prematurely, injuring ISIS-inspired Bangladeshi, 27, wearing a suicide vest

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/…

    • live in pain you worm.Gnash
    • FAILCygnusZero4
    • fudmicrokorg
    • He's going in jail for a looooooong timeBennn
    • Find him a curb and stomp that bitch, you know the resthelloeatbreathedrive
    • he survived?drgs
    • the bomb didnt work. it malfunctioned.CygnusZero4
    • MondaysRamanisky2
    • Lol... get up, you pussy!PonyBoy
    • you bring shame to Allah, no virgins, only whores!moldero
    • blew his dick off by the looks of things.fadein11
    • I hope he gets his ass reamed in prison.dbloc
    • I hate cabbies!utopian
    • only whores...lolhotroddy
    • this guy was bangladeshi. What does he have in common w a sunni arab? Muslim band making a little bit of sense.hotroddy
    • Apparently the whole 'Jerusalem as Capital of Israel' thing isn't necessarily sectarian.
      Not that it in any way matters. At all.
      In any way. Stupid cunts.
      detritus
    • He won't be getting any grub at Allah's Snackbar tonight. Suppose it's hard to test the equipment. It's a one use only kind of deal.PhanLo
    • no beta testing?hotroddy
    • ^hehehehePhanLo
    • @hotroddy LOL! this was THE beta test.chukkaphob
    • You know what they say.
      Experienced suicide bombers are hard to come by.
      pango
    • lol pangoGuyFawkes
  • robotron3k2

    The religion of peace strikes again...

    LONDON TUBE TERRORParsons Green terror attack suspect identified by cops using CCTV after bucket bomb IED exploded injuring 22

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/44…

    A MAN wielding a hammer has attacked two women in France while shouting "Allahu Akbar" – French media reports.

    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/…

    A knife wielding man has attacked a French soldier outside a Metro station in Paris today while praising Allah.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/…

    • Terrible, just terrible. If only they were Christian, things like this would never happen.sofakingback
    • maybe we should tell our governments invading countries pisses people off?
      Maybe they havent figured it out yet
      mugwart
    • The 'religion' that jihadists believe in is not one of peace.Morning_star
    • Sun, Star and Daily Mail?
      Pulling out the best references here, eh?
      detritus
    • god that "safety video" had me in hystreicsmugwart
    • Meanwhile your chump Trump is sticking his oar in again and meddling in internal investigations of another country. I'm guessing he's been the leak all along.detritus
    • What to do in event of a terrorist take .... wait for it .... Runmugwart
    • got sidelined by nude pics of Lisa Appleton on that Sun link, what we talking about again?Bluejam
    • Pointless nipple pixellation, i think.detritus
    • Tits Bluejam .. TitsRamanisky2
    • And right wing nuts say libs are the victims of propaganda...twentyfive
    • lol@detritus & Ramanisky2Bluejam
    • And all the while the U. S. of A. bombs the fuck out of innocent women and children everyday. Yay for the U. S. of A.fadein11
    • you so need a good fuckfadein11
    • @detritus "Pulling out the best references " its all over the fucking internet dudesureshot
    • including here in Hoillandsureshot
    • No shit? Referring to the three most diabolically shit right wing UK papers sort of belies Robos original source. ie. It's a comically-clear agenda.detritus
    • yup detfadein11
    • I got seriously wounded by those Lisa Appleton pictures. Wish I haven't clicked.Beeswax
    • America murder far more innocent people in the middle, in the name of the christian god... There are cunts in all religionsset
    • ....and they all should be stopped, yes? I haven't heard of any of these murders America does "in the name of the christian god"formed
    • There are cunts.ApeRobot
    • america's not murdering for god anywhere in the world.Gnash
    • Murder in the middleset
    • I'm pretty sure I've heard both Obama and Bush emphatically mention Godset
    • I'm pretty sure I've heard both Obama and Bush emphatically mention Godset
    • is that like Malcom in the Middle, but with goats?Gnash
    • They mention god, but they don't kill in his name -- totally different beast.Gnash
    • Didn't British rule the Middle East and then slice the shit out of it before they left and fuck it all up back in the 40s?robotron3k
    • We did, and then you and we fucked Iran up beyond belief, completely undermining their social development, and you took the reins and have been at it ever sincedetritus
    • Mind you, that's really the Turks fault for siding wiz ze Germans in dubya dubya wun when they really should've focused on domestic shit.detritus
    • I imagine most Muslims would say that terrorists don't do it in Allah's name. From the middle easts point of view the Christians are invading + murderingset
    • Sorry, I don't believe that. I think 'they' simply see the West as a meddling influence, solely for its own gain.
      Rightly or wrongly.
      detritus
    • The only MEasterner's who invoke fears of Western Gods are the cretinous likes of Daesh who have to frame it in their own context.detritus
    • Wtf do I know though? I'm a near middle aged ginger blue-skinned cunt living in North London.detritus
    • George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'
      Gnash & formed have a bit of a fish memory.
      Beeswax
    • or selective memoryBeeswax
    • Deep shit guise. Pretty woke!sureshot
    • It's about as thinly veiled a religious attack as Muslims to us is.set
    • I imagine many middle easterners have heard the word of God uttered from many an American soldierset
    • amen Set - we agree again. Have a nice wknd.fadein11
    • amen in a secular fashion obviously.fadein11
    • the attack is clearly another lone wolf unconnected mentally unstable moron who has v.little to do with the bigger picture. Blame the blanket media coverage notfadein11
    • religion in this instance.fadein11
    • Genuine extremists know how to build bombs that kill - we taught them.fadein11
    • America, maybe. Those cunts flush $$ far too liberally, no matter what flavour insurgent. Us though? I don't know, I'd like to think we're more discriminatedetritus
    • Ginger girl in Pink's having a fucking day though. Every newspaper here in Blighty's got her pretty face splayed across.detritus
    • America did not go into Iraq because of God, despite Bush's comments. God does not drive US policy in any way.Gnash
    • That's so ridiculously naive, bees. I hope you're just trying to make a point. (which I get, btw)Gnash
    • yeah I also remember reading Bushy saying he was guided by god or doing god's work_niko
    • Gnash, you're an intelligent guy. Do you think that terrorism is caused by the Islamic God or the reaction to white people invading and...set
    • ... murdering in a land that happens to be occupied by Muslims...?set
    • Terrorism is the reaction, and an extremely small one statistically, to the occupation of their land by western forcesset
    • If foreign troops came to America, forced a foreign bank and murdered anyone that opposed it, and a few Americans fought back and set off bombs...set
    • ... In the opposing forces country, American media would label them as heroes and all americams would celebrate.set
    • What's differentset
    • Propaganda tells people that these are archaic, mindless cretins murdering without reason or logicset
    • Reason and logic tells us that they're people fighting against the invasion of their land and the murder of their peopleset
    • America are the terrorist, frankly.set
    • Isset
    • America is certainly reaping what the sow in the mid-east. I never said they were free of responsibility.Gnash
    • Only saying that God isn't their motivationGnash
    • They're not killing in the name of God.Gnash
    • religiously motivated slaughter is a well honed skill over in the cradle of civilization.Gnash
    • the west's involvement isn't required to fuel that darkness.Gnash
    • Your logic is biased Gnash. Religion is a tool to use. There are clerics/leaders who use this tool to inflict brains to create terror. Just like Bush using itBeeswax
    • To affect the brains of those soldiers who have gone to Iraq or those who voted for his 2.term and approved of terror in IraqBeeswax
    • And those brains that are captured by that pseudo islam ideology of Isis are actually ripened by that guy who talked to God.Beeswax
    • So dont single out a religion and create anger in people like me. You are the first problem of everything.Beeswax
    • So what's happening now? Are you still blaming the US and Christians for the mess the middle east is in? Are you still blaming bush?_niko
    • The biggest threat and enemy of Muslims are other Muslims. It would take a thousand bush wars to equal the blood spilled by your own hands._niko
    • And please realize that americas only God is money. They'll use Christianity for convenience, when they need votes or canon fodder_niko
    • And everyone knows what a farce bush's war was, if the US actually cared about stamping out terror they would have carpet bombed Saudi Arabia instead._niko
    • Bees, I'm not singling out "a" religion, they are all stained with blood. I'm only saying the USA is not motivated by God to spill that blood.Gnash
    • Whereas, the motivation to spill blood in the cresent is God.Gnash
    • *wanders in*
      hey guise!
      https://www.theguard…
      *leaves*
      detritus
    • Bee, or anyone else, is that he rule in Muslim countries or the Exception? I'd imagine turkey isn't like that but what percentage are?_niko
    • *has a death penalty for blasphemy or apostasy?_niko
    • Careful robot, many around her defend radical islam while despising Christianity for being religious freaks.Hayoth
    • Actually people are simply intelligent enough to recognise that it's just a very small group of morons on both sidesset
    • All religious people are at least slightly moronic in my view, but there are varying degrees of moronocism, as people like hayoth and omg flaunt wonderfullyset
    • http://www.reuters.c…Gnash
    • you don't see Presbyterians chasing Unitarians out of town at the point of a spearGnash
    • while there are certainly wing-nuts in all religious groups, the spectrum is not on an equal metricGnash
    • You're right. Very broadly speaking the middle and east is a few hundred years behind the west. We were doing the same thing not so long ago.set
    • .. I agree with you though. In general they haven't developed past it quite like the west has.set
    • That said, one of my oldest friends is a turk, an observant muslim who's entire family is are the kindest, most generous people i've met...Gnash
    • and not once in all the years i've known them has there been any kind of rhetoric that reflects the hyperbolic crap inflicted on muslims todayGnash
    • And I don't want to give the impression that I think all muslims subscribe to that jihadist lunacy.Gnash
    • until this recent spate of 'terror' I'd never even heard the word, jihadGnash
    • (not true, I actually heard it first around the time fatwa called on salman rushdie)Gnash
  • sureshot2

    Police investigate ‘potential terror’ as van mows down Muslims near Finsbury Park mosque in London


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/editi…

    • "A man was killed and eight people were injured when a suspected terrorist drove a van into pedestrians near a mosque in north London "sureshot
    • Reverse Terrorism?d0mino
    • It was only a matter of time before the right wing fanatics turned Jihadist themselvesyuekit
    • there's no such thing as reverse terrorismlowimpakt
    • moronic thuggery playing right into the hands of the hate preachershans_glib
    • jaysus christ domino. 10 people mowed down by a van while caring to an elderly man who'd collapsed.kingsteven
    • It's called a Hate Crimejmckinno
    • What the fuck is 'reverse terrorism'? When someone runs into a crowd and starts singing and handing out flowers?face_melter
    • ^ that would make a pleasant change. Not a bad idea right now! Maybe get some sponsorship from Columbia road market!mugwart
    • not terrorism. rascism. I doubt the intention was for a bigger cause other than "retalliaton" (I use the term loosely)trooperbill
    • The intention was to make Muslims afraid of living and practicing there. Achieved terrorism.monospaced
    • Like, why is everything terrorism now, before an investigation or a threat or a demand has been made...?robthelad
    • @robthelad not everything is terrorism - this is being treated as terrorism by the the authoritiesSlashPeckham
    • The point was to make a community scared ... to instill terror in regular lives of regular people.monospaced
    • could be terrorism, could be racism, could be a hate crime. Could also be a devastated grieving father who lost a child in the concert attack and snapped._niko
    • terrorist attack... doesnt matter what colour the person is who commited it nor the colour of the people attacked...cruddlebub
    • http://www.reactiong…i_was
  • face_melter5

    I was just around the corner from Drottninggatan on my way to the cinema when it happened. I saw a load of people running past and some in tears. Didn't see or hear the incident. Read on Twitter that a truck had crashed and thought of what happened in Glasgow.

    That was about 40 minutes ago. The film started and just now it suddenly stopped and we left the room - the streets have been cleared and we have been told to stay inside, away from the windows.

    Details and news are incredibly sketchy. I huess i'll know .ore when everyone else does :/

    • stay safe, manOBBTKN
    • sorry to hear and yes stay safefadein11
    • keep your eyes.. open. and stay safe pls.helloeatbreathedrive
    • stay safeloool
    • damn, stay safe.Gnash
    • I love how QBN is my go to place for up to the minute news and opinions these days. Take it easy man. Don't be a hero!!Ianbolton
    • stolen beer truck according to newsDillinger
    • https://gfx.aftonbla…Gnash
    • ^ doesn't look like a beer truckGnash
    • well I did use mainstream media and they are usually wrongDillinger
    • If it turns out to a muslim terrorist, then not only do they show contempt for human life, but beer too, couldn't get any lower...fruitsalad
    • It was a beer truck, from Spendrups. Kinda weird angle, but it's a flatbed with the plastic sides you can roll up.face_melter
    • @ fruitsalad he is:https://pbs.twimg...sureshot
    • ^ https://pbs.twimg.co…sureshot
    • well, just cos he's arabic looking, doesn't mean he's muslim. Or an immigrant...fruitsalad
    • yeah whateversureshot
    • Ugh. be safe!Krassy
    • i'm calling out on your BS fruitsalad. why not be honest and admit it's the first thing that crossed your little judgmental mind.hotroddy
    • fruisalad you are ignorant and I feel sorry for you.sureshot
    • I think it was first in mind for a lot of people, and fruitsalad is right - a crime against beer. And I'm a cider drinker.detritus
    • that is a crime. something we can all stand behind.hotroddy
  • dbloc6

    • 1.4+ billion Muslims in the world, should be enough to police their own kind... but they stay silent.robotron3k
    • ^ agreed. This is the only way it will work. Muslims will not listen to non-Muslims.dbloc
    • ^ *Stares* ...'their own kind', what? you mean humans. Also, 'they' don't stay silent, it's just a convenient lie you choose to regurgitate.Morning_star
    • I think it's probably safe to remember that God has clearly never told anyone to do anythingset
    • ^^point me to the Muslim security force that has prevented attacks Morning_star, would love to be more informed. seriously.robotron3k
    • btw, USA does not have enough Arab speakers in their CIA/FBI/NSA because many Arab/Muslims don't want to help improve safety of non-Muslims. truth.robotron3k
    • There are thousands of Muslims police officers in the UK Police Force. MI5, MI6 contains hundreds. 70,000 muslim clerics have issued a Fatwa against ISIS..Morning_star
    • or maybe they dont want to run the risk of being targets themselves...robotron3k
    • ...i can go on and on and on.Morning_star
    • The Muslim community needs more people standing up and speaking out against Terrorism & Killing innocent people.dbloc
    • Isn't Belgium in the UK? someone must have missed something then... very sad.robotron3k
    • Belgium in the UK!? What the what?ETM
    • *facepalmETM
    • What Morning_Star said - precisely.
      Nothing like a terrorist attack to bring the morons out.
      fadein11
    • Jesus robo3k, you don't do yourselves any favours - you seriously didn't realise that Belgium is an independent country?

      *boggled*
      detritus
    • lol. you guys are so into details...robotron3k
    • What's funny is everyone thought of Muslims. I thought of the Abraham story from the bible.CyBrainX
    • bwaahaha, what a dumbass ...monospaced
    • The abrahamic myth is common through Christianity, Islam and Judaism. It's kind of where this whole mess started.Morning_star
    • Silence is Golden!utopian
    • Ahhh, the radical muslim sympathizers. Ignorance is bliss. Wish the stood up for christians like they do with radical islam.Hayoth
    • Noone is standing up for terrorists... just not agreeing that over a billion muslims also approve...fadein11
    • Nobody here is sympathising with radical islam. So, tell us Hayoth where we're being ignorant. Go on, shine your mighty light of truth.Morning_star
    • Yes Belgium is in the UK, stop messing with the guy.set
  • _niko7

    Man kills 5 with bow and arrow

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-e…

    step 1: Convert to Islam
    Step 2: Purchase bow and arrows
    Step 3: ????
    Step 4: Prophet!

  • sureshot0
    • At least nine dead after St Petersburg metro bombingsureshot
    • Rasputin?GeorgesII
    • huh, I'm quite surprised—he looks like such a cheery chap. Like many muslims! Not at all miserable, dour-faced, self-loathing and ill at ease in their own skin.detritus
    • he's probably a bit stressed to be fair to himFax_Benson
    • Melt into the mass they've said...ApeRobot
    • When does spacex leave for mars?fruitsalad
    • i'm sick of these mindless murderers. whatever their colour or beardage. they're all just cunts. with a capital Khans_glib
    • wow, detritus,
      not all muslims are terrorist!!
      GeorgesII
    • :(monospaced
    • I think I accused them of being miserable dour-faced, self-loathing cunts, not terrorists.detritus
    • lolset
    • Kid from Kid n Playdbloc
    • Religion of peacedrgs
    • Religion of people in pieces.detritus
    • lolmaquito
    • I lol detritus, this is not the joke in bad taste threadGeorgesII
    • Does this mean war soon?robthelad
    • He looks like he just arrived from a flight ISIS - St Petersburg. People like this would get noticed right away in that cityzaq
    • fuck detrituscanoe
    • only if i can fuck you first.detritus
    • I don't get all this muslim/jew/Christian stuff, it's like make your minds up guys over who's the god/prophet. Cos mean while, us atheists know the prophet is:fruitsalad
    • from the god 'Korg' https://www.youtube.…fruitsalad
    • Peace you crazy believers...fruitsalad
    • :(monospaced
    • Sad news, but lol @detritusmaquito
    • http://www.haaretz.c…dorfsman
    • https://www.google.c…dorfsman
  • Beeswax3


    A man suspected of planting a bomb at an airport in North Carolina was preparing to “fight a war on US soil”, the FBI has said.

    Michael Christopher Estes was arrested after an unexploded device was found at Asheville Regional Airport on Friday morning.

    The FBI’s criminal complaint states that Mr Estes admitted planting the bomb, which tests revealed contained Ammonium Nitrate, an explosive often used in terrorist attacks.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/new…

    • repost in non terror thread please, he's white ;)fadein11
    • He is a "Lone Wolf"teh
    • Fox & Friendsutopian
    • He's an American Indian/ Alaskan.omg
    • yup american indian, not "white"Gnash
    • lol fadeset
    • The dude is whiteset
    • http://static.snopes…Gnash
    • Yea but he's white, look at him..set
    • That's a white manset
    • Here comes qbn Hitler armyHayoth
    • he must be alt-white.omg
    • part white... part Am indian... 100% douche
      (can't wait for some of you to trip out that 'American Indian' is the nomenclature in play) :)
      PonyBoy
    • SJW: "THEY'RE 'NAAAAATIVE' OR 'INDIGENOUS' YOU WHITE RACIST FUCKING WHITE KKK PERSON... NOT 'INDIIIIAAAAN'... WAAAAAAH!!!"PonyBoy
    • :DPonyBoy
    • Oh, more mental gymnastics from omg and Hayoth. Qbn’s resident short bus squad.face_melter
    • american indian is preferred by those identifying as american indians as it is the only ethnic group in the US with the word American before their ethnicityimbecile
    • Walmart needs to stop selling Ammonium Nitrate for safer alternatives to better gardening. face_melter for example is full of shit. Let's start thereomg
    • ... and also end there. Don't feed the troll..set
    • Terrorism by definition has to do with political affiliation/motivati... not skin color; even if that doesn't sound logical to most of us.cotton
    • lol @ allsureshot
  • set1

    There really should be a blanket media silence on terrorism from now on. Don't give it any coverage or exposure whatsoever.

    But no, of course the scum media won't do that, they thrive on this shit.

    • There also needs to be far more discussion and criticism of certain ideas within Islam, without being labelled a racist or bigot.inteliboy
    • if the wankers would be ppl of faith they would respect their own religious laws. it's ramadan, so muslims are instructed to refrain from fighting.uan
    • But when Ramadan is over, it's completely okay to fight.Claymantis
    • srsly asking, is this a positive psychology thing? like don't talk about suicide and it will happen less? what news should be allowed vs censored?sofas
    • for example should lousy education, poverty or pollution be covered?sofas
    • I am concerend that silencing the issue won't make it go away, and suppressin the discourse will create other problems, but maybe I didn't understandsofas
    • reduced reporting for sure - the rolling news is horrible to watch and feeds the problem on all sides.fadein11
    • @inteliboy - what media are you reading/watching? the mainstream media in the UK is heavily weighted against Islam - the problems are discusses/criticisedfadein11
    • endlessly.fadein11
    • I don't see mainstream media weighted heavily against Islam at all. If anything any criticism is quickly met with accusations of islamophobia and bigotry.IRNlun6
    • @fadein11 I also think the problem is the broadcasting oligopolies. Give the public access to broadcast what ever they want and mass media's power might declinesofas
    • You and I fadein have been arguing about this probably for a couple years now and my position is most definitely in the minority.IRNlun6
    • We have social media now. Controlling the news cycle is nearly impossible at this point.IRNlun6
    • never talked about this w/ fadein :)
      Social media is not an equal alternative, folks don't have journalist privileges, access to broadcast equipment etc.
      sofas
    • terrorism thrives on mass fear. fear is best instilled in people through propaganda ie the media apart from the act itself. i'm with @set on this one.renderedred
    • @IRNlun6 I agree with you about the Islamophobia claims, but the wider picture includes the context of covering Islam vs others, coverage time and sentimentsofas
    • Are criticism of Catholicism met with the same reaction? I'd like to hope what set suggests would help. I just see it as impossible at this point.IRNlun6
    • Although I agree sofas on coverage time.IRNlun6
    • On second thought, criticism of Catholicism is more widely accepted because they allow it. They sure a hell didn't allow it in the past.IRNlun6
    • prsnly I want to be entertained and the news cycle delivers more. It's sick and so is society, but raitings (mixed with propaganda) talk. also chicken and eggsofas
    • @IRNInun Catholicism just deals with it differently. They don't accept criticism. Did anything change in regards to rampant pedophilia within their ranks ever?renderedred
    • @sofas exactly. media is an industry, ratings are the currency.renderedred
    • the Church hired better PRsofas
    • and lawyers ;)renderedred
    • Fair points. Perhaps it's an unrealistic expectation that any faith would self criticize.IRNlun6
    • Catholicism sure didn't deal with their issues with pedophilia from within.IRNlun6
    • the difference is we have people gladly blowing themselves up for religion. That's a problem that should be addressed from within, not denied as aformed
    • "only 1% are radicals". IMHO, there should be people turned over to intelligence daily on suspicion. It's the only way I see to stop this.formed
    • This is were I find the mass media contributing to the problem. For whatever reason they want to push the narrative of nothing to do with Islam.IRNlun6
    • In doing so, it also ignores that Muslims are most definitely fighting against this in their own communities.IRNlun6
    • Can't quite put it to words. There's a difference between saying a community has nothing to do with an internal problem, but they're dealing with it.IRNlun6
    • Vs. acknowledging the problem as well as their efforts to deal with it.IRNlun6
    • @IRUNlun6, I agree, and this might be a conspiracy, but maybe not saying it outright increases rage, frustration, anger at PC and vigilante, which fuel raitingssofas
    • and support propaganda goalssofas
    • @sofas I agree entirely and it's tough to put a finger on why. Does it serve a grander goal of globalization, or more ratings and profit?IRNlun6
    • @irn - I said UK media? You live in UK? If so i didnt realise. That being said we were discussing media and all the dominant msm in uk is right leaning and yesfadein11
    • The Islam debate is never far from the front pages / screens. UK liberal media is in the minority here. How ironicfadein11
    • Liberal as in liberal not the neo variety which so many people seem to confuse these daysfadein11
    • I don't live in the UK fadein11 so I'll concede in assuming your media is as biased towards the "left" as in the US. Although I find similarities in narrative.IRNlun6
    • Only one thing can be done to stop this, re-write the Koran.robotron3k
    • haha - the UK media is biased towards the right - anyone UK citizen will tell you that. And just to be clear for a 3rd time - Islam isfadein11
    • under constant scrutiny by it.fadein11
    • never a good idea to assume when dealing with v.complex / difficult subjects.fadein11
    • Especially when about countries you know little about.fadein11
    • I thought you were gonna say "build a wall," or, "ban all muslims," but you surprised me and said something so humanitarian and caring. You never cease to amazemonospaced
    • Even the historically left Guardian plays puppet to it's masters these days. Channel 4 news is probably the closest to a left media we have and The Mirror butfadein11
    • that's a reactionary redtop.
      And don't get me started on the BBC - the most biased of public service broadcasters.
      fadein11
    • Yeah this needs to be part of the discussion. The whole purpose of terrorism is to create a media spectacle and that's exactly what Western media delivers foryuekit
    • them. Not that it should be ignored but imagine if it was covered at the same level as any other tragedy, would the number of attacks go up or down as a result?yuekit
    • ugh... they're zealots... they do this for GOD not MEDIA ATTENTION. Yeah, the attention furthers their cause... but it's all about their FAITH.PonyBoy
    • They're willing to die w/out a second thought... 'ignorantia' isn't a solution, ffs.PonyBoy
    • I'm waiting for someone to say 'we just need to help them get jobs and improve their living situations' as a solution for some faith-driven maniac... :/PonyBoy
    • No such thing as faith driven in this case. Quran clearly forbids killing innocent civilians. But for the last 100 years Muslim people are massacredBeeswax
    • and humiliated by Western powers this is the psychological outcome of this. They are crazy not Muslim or anything. But I blame your gvernments for deliberatelyBeeswax
    • pushing people to this stage, For them it's a win win situation.Beeswax
    • I'm a lucky Muslim, but if my house was in Palestine or Iraq or Afghanistan and one day "peace powers" killed my beloveds destroy my city I don't know whatBeeswax
    • I would turn into. Same for you. This is the result of your countries' dangerous politics.
      Don't we all know that west created ISIS, or are we playing dumb?
      Beeswax
    • Why are they willing to die, bees? All 3 must be mental patients? Bullshit. It may not be in line w/your beliefs, Bees... these guys died for 'their' God.PonyBoy
    • is it the western powers bee, or is it muslim powers? Saudis vs Persians, Sunni vs Shia, everyone vs kurds and all the proxy wars surrounding it?_niko
    • yes, george bush was a complete fuck up and the US should never have done what they did, but blaming western powers for the whole mess in the middle east is_niko
    • laughable, turn the mirror inwards and see what the real issue is._niko
    • there is one nation in the middle east that all western powers kneel down and suck the dick of, why don't you start with that one before casting stones._niko
  • ok_not_ok9

    • exactlyhans_glib
    • +++++since1979
    • yes but they are responding to us blowing up shit as well.mugwart
    • Indeed mugwart, was about to say... This banner could apply to us in the middle east 10,000 times more than it does to themset
    • its a horrific cycle of killing. It only continues because of ignorance. banners like this make matters worse. The enemy is the war machine not 'us' vs 'them'mugwart
    • Indeed, indeed..set
    • Eye for an eye...
      Whoever shoots first keeps one eye...
      pango
    • I'd be very impressed by someone shot in one eye already being able to shoot their shooter straight in the eye. Very impressed Benset
    • Very impressed indeed most highset
    • I guess Gandhi made more mistake in his statement than I thought.pango
    • @mugwart - that is exactly what I thought on seeing the banner.fadein11
  • lowimpakt1

    If you can't understand a deeply complex geopolitical problem, blame refugees.

    • you mean, rapefugees,
      amiryte?? anyone anyone??
      georgesIII
    • fuckin' a georgesmonospaced
    • Who said anything about refugees?detritus
    • @detritus a load of pricks on twitter, Cruz,, Trump, Katie Hopkins etclowimpakt
    • pfft, attention-seeking, lowest common denominator gas bags. Fuck 'em.detritus
    • Jaysus lowimpakt, you're so predictable.shaft
    • thanks shaftlowimpakt
    • blame de jews https://www.youtube.…pablo28
    • this happens after every terrorist act,
      tomorrow everyone will have a belgian flag on top of their pics, in one week, we're bacl to not looking for a solution
      georgesIII
    • what's the solution?Krassy
    • the pics are already happeningjaylarson
    • Solution is quite easy, stop destabilising their land, they will have no reasons to hate you or come here, was there a refugee crisis of this magnitude beforegeorgesIII
    • Come on georges, just sort it all out for us will you. Come on. Stop holding back. Sort it all out for us. Come on Georges. Sort it out for us.set
    • he just didterry_cloth
    • Lol. 2nd or 3rd generation refugees.Cactus
    • Ahhh, here come the liberals avoiding the term islam and in most cases even protecting radical islam. If these guys were Christian lowimp would be ragingHayoth
    • Refugees are part of the geopolitical problemi_was
    • Lol Hayoth. Is Christianity responsible for America killing innocent civilians every day in the middle east?set
    • Blame The Fugees https://www.youtube.…ESKEMA
  • OBBTKN1

    Egypt Sinai: Bomb and gun attack on mosque 'kills 85'

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-mi…

    No comment :(

    • Attack a place of worship - of their own religion - then people attempting to flee, then ambulances. Nice, brave fuckers.detritus
    • very sad...notype
    • Shit... cuntsmugwart
    • awful. way higher death toll now as well.
      if only god didn't invent religion.
      fadein11
    • Up to 235 now. No one has claimed responsibility yet, but ISIS has targeted Sufis in the past.IRNlun6
    • FUCking hell_niko
    • Fucked up. Civilians as well.sureshot
    • Ottomans have scraped this Wahhabi fucks off the earth 200 years ago until Brits came and gave them power to get a share of their oil.This is where we are nowBeeswax
    • https://en.wikipedia…Beeswax
    • Yeah, yeah, but the Ottomans slaughtered over a million Armenians, had slaves until the 20th century and sided with Germany in WWI. History's a bitch, ain't it?detritus
    • the Wahhabists are more the fault of a backward internal culture in SA than external interference. If we'd not meddled, someone else would've.detritus
    • They were an insignificant people sat on top of a new form of energy reserve with no internal means of extraction - in an age of burgeoning empires.detritus
    • the sooner islam sorts itself out the better. tho, as it took christian sects hundreds of years to stop killing each other, i'm not holding my breathhans_glib
    • True that, but we are arming and creating these craziesmugwart
    • all those sects are god driven to annihilate each other. Wahhabism's no worse than the others.Gnash
    • the Ahmadi have some chill, but all the sects come together to hate them. funny that.Gnash
    • Religion of peacei_was
    • the "religion of peace" phrase is idiotic. no offencelowimpakt
    • over 200 people die and it isn't on major news outlets #thisisfine #thoughtsandprayersjaylarson
    • Top of front page news here in U.K./Europe. As it should be, sadly.detritus
    • yep all over news here.fadein11
  • ApeRobot0

    One of my co-worker was at the american airline desk when the bomb exploded.
    Everybody behind him on the line are dead.
    He miraculously avoided the blast while reaching for his passport. Still, he was first in the line with his 3 years old and his wife.
    The baby got stitches on his head due to ceiling collapse.
    For the moment he is deaf and in shock.
    He never travel, for once , he decided to take his familly in vacation....

    • Jesus... Sorry to hear but God they were lucky.fadein11
    • oh man..that shit will cause a life long trauma..sureshot
    • :(Bennn
    • :(monospaced
    • Wow. lucky family!microkorg
    • Amen.ORAZAL
    • 80Projectile
    • So lucky the whole fam survivedshellie
    • jesus christ, je suis content il sont tous okgeorgesIII
    • <3PonyBoy
    • :(Krassy
    • heart breaking.Krassy
    • Someone has to record the covo he'll have with his wife about it... "I told you so, traveling sucks! And you bitch didn't want to listen to me!!"pr2
    • @pr2 this is not the right time to try and be funny (you are not) . Don't be insensitive like that, man. Lame.chukkaphob
  • Gnash4
    • Reminds me of the gun argument—folks blaming the Faith and not the loony murderous person—Just like blaming guns...and not the loony murderous person.PonyBoy
    • ooooOOOOOOOH YEAH!!! who'd I trigger?!!
      :D
      PonyBoy
    • ^ lolGnash
    • nothing wrong with moderate gun nuts, it's the fundamentalist gun nuts that cause the problems.Fax_Benson
    • that faith also tells people to feed the poor and respect everything that God created. Guns don't feed people. They just kill. Comparing them is idiotic.Beeswax
    • guns feed peopleGnash
    • the majority of gun owners in the USA are moderate use them for hunting, it's only the extremist minority use them against peopleGnash
    • not unlike religion.Gnash
    • lol - like the gun issue is about hunting rifles.fadein11
    • its not about a ban either - isn't it about making it slightly harder for nuts to get them?fadein11
    • lol -- the point always seems to whizz over your head.Gnash
    • that was about as ELI5 as one could get. ask your kids to explain it to youGnash
    • oh trust me I got your point.fadein11
    • your response indicate that you didn'tGnash
    • I totally see why you need an AR15 with a bump stock to shoot an Elk...see_thru
    • ^ you don't, obviously.Gnash
    • Your posts only ever make one point ;)fadein11
    • you usually miss most everyones point, not just mine. that's your defining characteristic on hereGnash
    • Yours are not hard to decipher chumpfadein11
    • I do miss your daily mockery of young people though, bring that shit backfadein11
    • maybe you're not as simple as you project, perhaps you just have bad luck when thinking.Gnash
    • Like I said, there is little to tax my brain when reading your posts. I look forward to more. Get back to your core subjects though, people you dislike. Have afadein11
    • nice eve.fadein11
    • lol. you are the Dunning–Kruger poster boy :)
      https://en.wikipedia…
      Gnash
    • it's like talking to my neighbours 7 year oldGnash
    • Only 1% of the total U.S & 3% of Canada is Muslim. Their financial power is even less than that. They are the least threat to your precious life.Beeswax
    • You're just a tool man. They feed you with their bullshit theories and you just eat it. Why you love to eat is a whole different matter.Beeswax
    • I'm not afraid of muslims, dopey dope. I'm just point out that your analogy is retarded.Gnash
    • you're quick to throw everyone in the same bag because you're too intellectually lazy to think it through.Gnash
    • you have every freedom to defend whatever ideology you like -- i could care less. make a stupid point and I'll call it out.Gnash
    • you hide behind a curtain of sanctimony and pretend you have some moral high ground. pfft. just another ignorant, magical-sky-god worshipper.Gnash
    • how's your faith treating the kurds -- feeding the poor ones and respecting all gods creations? please.Gnash
    • religion is worse than a gun. thinking otherwise is idiotic, as you say.Gnash
    • millions of people have died in the name of religion, few have died in the name of weapons._niko
    • Also, name me one good thing religion has done that wasn't being done by pagans like the ancient Greeks or Romans. Morals? ethics? laws? they had plenty._niko
    • ^ apparently feed the poor and respect all gods creationsGnash
    • yeah seriously, no way the ancient greeks had a word for philanthropy._niko
    • Gnash is just an angry little man who doesn't like people different to him. Sad!fadein11
    • lol. you're such a moron fadein. blessGnash
    • (i'm 6'4" and quite happy. u? i guess balding, glasses, thin-lipped, bad skin, and short)Gnash
    • haha - and you call me a child.fadein11
    • having trouble with reality?Gnash
    • the only people I mock are simpleminded ones how try and project their righteousness as anything other than regurgitated virtue. hence, you.Gnash
    • i could care less about what people look like. it's ideas that matter, dummy.Gnash
    • (except for short, balding, thin-lipped and myopic muppets)Gnash
    • haha - you have lost your shit on this thread because a few people disagreed with you.fadein11
    • please share more of your ideas, preferably about silly 18 year olds finding their feet in life. Or gender... bring back the gender! lol. pratt.fadein11
    • and like I said, angry.fadein11
    • ah, the go-to argument of the intellectually lazy -- throw out the bigot or race card.Gnash
    • you're a caricature. a stereotype mouthing your virtue like a trained organ monkey.Gnash
    • well done.Gnash
    • ah the go to argument for someone who doesn't like being disagreed with - "you're stoopid". Who mentioned bigot or race by the way?fadein11
    • Although if I had the time I could show many examples of that from you.fadein11
    • lol, exactly. of course you can. you're a lazy thinker.Gnash
    • you seem unable to have an original thought. all your mewlings are pre-packaged sentiments. children can be given a pass on that, it's sad for a grown man.Gnash
    • read more, perhaps outside your bubble. stretch a bitGnash
    • I look forward to seeing some of your original thinking soon, please educate me in the ways of gnash.fadein11
  • detritus7

    Instead of 'terrorism' can we just start calling it 'wankery'? It's all it is.

    • wankerismRamanisky2
    • The war on wankingset
    • Omid Djalili had a pretty good sketch about this, he wants us to call them Nancy Boys.coldarchon
    • I prefer cunt attackmugwart
  • face_melter4

    Back home now.

    After I last wrote. About 10 minutes later everyone went back into the salon/screen room and sat down to wait for news. A guy came in and said that they would start the film again and you can watch or wait in the foyer. A friend called just as it started up so I went out, had a chat, went back in and sat down as the trailers finished.

    Then something surreal happened. The film stopped, screen turned red and a girl came in - in silhouette and backlit from the light in the corridor - she looked and searched for her friend sitting a bit aways from me and said 'we're being evacuated'.

    A few seconds of numb comprehension and everyone poured out - the cops had taped off pretty much all around Hötorget and the centre where the crash happened and were telling people to leave the area. Choppers in the sky, cops in protective gear, security personnel - the whole bit. But no fear, no madness or frenzy - people were super cool and kinda just headed wherever they needed to go. The tunnelbana was closed, so I just walked home towards Söder, (got my 11,000 steps! Woo!) picked up some food shopping and now i'm in my pants drinking coffee and checking the news.

    A weird fucking thing, to be sure.

    And thanks for the concern <3

    • glad your safe.mugwart
    • USA or UK use of the word "pants"?fruitsalad
    • Life just goes on relentlessly, doesn't it? It has to, else all implodes. Be well, man. xdetritus
    • Yeah, people were nonplussed by the thing - more fucked off that their films were interrupted lolface_melter
    • my sadness goes to you n your country. be safe qbn brother!e-pill
    • glad you're safeKrassy
    • this is terrible man, glad you're safe as wellIRNlun6
    • Thanks all :)face_melter
  • Beeswax3

    Shocked about the bombing in the heart of Istanbul. We decided to move from that beautiful city because we didn't feel safe there anymore.
    These look like uncoordinated attacks but they are able to change the whole psychology of a country.
    Whoever or whatever reason behind this is plain evil. Pure bad. Don't understand how someone gets motivated to do such things.
    Let people live.

    • things are looking grim. hope your family is well.Gnash
    • Stay safe!pango
    • that really sucks, sorry!utopian
    • Awful and sad. Heart aches for the losses suffered.

      Trump will make this all stop though. He promised.
      monospaced
    • Stay safe bees! xosea_sea
    • I love how you ignore it was Coptic Christians that were killed.Hayoth
    • Are Coptic Christians' life any less valuable? Damn it hayoth. A life is a life!pango
    • i think most of those killed in yesterday's blast were police, hayoth.Gnash
    • perhaps you're thinking of the bombing in egyptGnash
    • Hayoth's RADICAL! Islam-sense was tingling.face_melter
    • Lol @ hayoth - aye, all these cunts are the same, eh? What a schmuck.detritus
  • Fax_Benson7

    Yeah, you hardly ever hear people equating Islam with terror. Such a taboo line of argument these days. Just look at the news, or the press or social media. Barely a mention. Probably because they're such a timid, reticent bunch, the Islam=terror theorists. Poor little lambs.