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- i_was-2
Allah akbar, Islam is a religion of peace, we need you, you the leftists, stay on our side. No more bombing, we promise.
- interesting take. you've obviously put a lot of thought into that.Fax_Benson
- Im pretty damn certain Christians have killed far more people.CygnusZero4
- I'm pretty damn certain that mosquitos have killed far more than Christians.Morning_star
- and comets too._niko
- ^^ Christians have pretty much matured out of that phase for several centuries now.Gnash
- Severe lack of knowledge of fundamentalismfadein11
- HOLY FUCK, ISLAMIC MOSQUITOESdetritus
- HARK! THE CHRISTIAN DOLPHINSdetritus
- —THE ULTIMATE BATTLE™detritus
- Fax_Benson0
imply that Islam is a religion of violence and therefore that all Muslims, by nature, are not peaceful - in the knowledge that leftists will defend the counter-view, allowing you to reaffirm your view that leftists are the enablers of terrorism.
well played. again. what have we achieved. nothing.
- Is it OK for a Muslim to disobey or reinterpret the Koran?Morning_star
- I don't fucking know.Fax_Benson
- Well, it isn't. It is punishable by death as Muslin believe that the Koran is the actual word of God, unlike Christians and Jews who have holy books written...Morning_star
- Oh ffsFax_Benson
- ...by men. To deviate from the instructions of the Koran is un-Muslim. This is fundamentally why Islam is different.Morning_star
- how anyone can defend islam or any other religion this day and age is beyond me._niko
- You're right. 'Defence'of religion is folly. However I think it's necessary to 'understand'. Spitting fire due to ignorance is just as destructive.Morning_star
- Sure, we should try to understand it but Religion is based on and thrives on ignorance. Not rational thought, not scientific evidence, blind fucking ignorance._niko
- Niko, if u look at history there are a bunch of scientists tried to prove God through rationalism. Descartes is one, Omar Khayyam is another that I know of.Beeswax
- several among greek philosophers. None of these guys are dumber than us. There's rationalism in the core of every belief. As of evidence,Beeswax
- theories are a big part of science,from big bang to evolution to dark matter & they are all being debated because of lack of evidence but you dont deny them.Beeswax
- religion is the science of human core. Everybody can find their own truth in it. Zen masters, Kaballah ppl, Sufis they are rational, at least the ones I know.Beeswax
- because they have methods & evidence about the effects of certain practices on human psyche for centuries and it really transform lives. That is rational.Beeswax
- Not rational is putting everyone who believes in some practiceor message in the same sack and label it "blind fucking ignorants"Beeswax
- Atheism has become mainstream only in the last century, whatever we have now, science or technology wise, is carried to this day by those fucking ignorants.Beeswax
- Athieism as you call it has been more mainstream now because anyone who denied the existence of God was burned at the stake._niko
- There were the ignorant masses and the not so ignorant clergy and ruling class who knew that religion was utter bullshit but it was a great tool of power._niko
- Now I also know that I live in a progressive country and have the luxury to think say and believe or not believe in whatever the fuck I want to. If I was living_niko
- If I was living in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan or most other muslim counties I would't be saying shit. I know Turkey is supposedly secular and much more_niko
- progressive than most muslim countries but the way things are going with Erdogan, I'm not so sure any more._niko
- I love open discussion and I hope you don't take offence to any of this, I don't know you personally but consider you part of our QBN family and every time some_niko
- fuckery goes down in Turkey (which has been a lot over the past few years) my first thoughts are is beeswax ok. At the end of the day if we put each other as_niko
- humans first and forget ideologies, nationalities and religions, I think we might just make it a s a species. :)_niko
- I like Beewax respsonsesmugwart
- Fax_Benson3
this isn't going away. Liberals have to wake up and acknowledge their role in this - but the reason the debate isn't going anywhere isn't because the PC police have said it's taboo. It's because the language of the debate is so fucking infantile. Deliberately so.
- agree, liberals shouldn't be defending these fucktards, but liberals should also be ridiculing christians and all other organized religions as well._niko
- why? organised religion isn't going away, like it or not. we're stuck with it.Fax_Benson
- why should we be stuck with it? shouldn't we educate our children to reject superstisious nonsense that our blind ancestors believed in thousands of years ago?_niko
- by all means but you can't and won't make everybody do that. demanding it will make things worse.Fax_Benson
- yeah it'll be a slow burn but it needs to happen sooner rather than later. If we do our part we can change it in a generation..._niko
- but reaching the rest of the world is the tricky part._niko
- and it needs to be an awakening nothing forced which will be worse_niko
- I don't think any liberal makes excuses for ISIS or radical Islam - it's when the the fundamentalist line gets blurred that I get annoyed.fadein11
- you can't say anything, not a single word, about the issues with Islam - with out being destroyed by liberal groups and media.inteliboy
- i.e. they call Ayaan Hirsi Ali a bigot. it's unbelievable. Both the far left and right could be the demise of the west. Morons.inteliboy
- It's always the extremes that are dangerous. Life is a lot of blurry gray, there are no absolutes.formed
- At this point in life I'd lean heavily towards religion causing far more divide and danger than helping people.formed
- i find a belief system in a superior god like government more harmful. People always choose to believe in shit, its identifying the nature of the belief and whdeathboy
- ere it is going. I propose most of higher edu is a monetary belief system that propagates the lord as head of gov. scary "educated" are no better than the educadeathboy
- ted of a a very strict bible belt mindset.deathboy
- shellie0
I was reading that the terror threat in the UK was raised to critical which is supposed to mean another attack may be immanent. ive never heard of this scale outside of the US. The last time i remeber something like this being used it was the Bush era. How serious do you take those scales in the UK? Will you actually change habbits around this? Or, do you just use this warning as a way to keep the general public's eye open.
- We pay no more heed than normal, but that 'normal' (as Robotron hinted at earlier today) tends already towards the considerative and somewhat apprehensive.detritus
- "Fuck'em".
I think that's the general idea.detritus - When I was a kid, we had an IRA shooting near my school and then regular bomb threats/alerts (mostly from students, I assume). This is no new normal.detritus
- Life is shit, but here we are.
We get on.detritus - Tea?detritus
- I'll reference a English saying"Keep a stiff upper lip" - Remain resolute and unemotional in the face of adversity, or even tragedy.robotron3k
- Military on the streets will become the new norm.face_melter
- Yeah, apparently I spoke too soon.detritus
- Yep - army on the streets of UK Robo. Wrong again.fadein11
- Bennn2
Everytime an attack happen, the medias, the politicians and the people have the same reactions and says the same things.
And we all go back to where we were and forget about it very quickly.
Its weird.
- ok_not_ok9
- exactlyhans_glib
- +++++since1979
- yes but they are responding to us blowing up shit as well.mugwart
- Indeed mugwart, was about to say... This banner could apply to us in the middle east 10,000 times more than it does to themset
- its a horrific cycle of killing. It only continues because of ignorance. banners like this make matters worse. The enemy is the war machine not 'us' vs 'them'mugwart
- Indeed, indeed..set
- Eye for an eye...
Whoever shoots first keeps one eye...pango - I'd be very impressed by someone shot in one eye already being able to shoot their shooter straight in the eye. Very impressed Benset
- Very impressed indeed most highset
- I guess Gandhi made more mistake in his statement than I thought.pango
- @mugwart - that is exactly what I thought on seeing the banner.fadein11
- robotron3k0
Black Pigeon Speaks summarizes, what will be, the (lack of) UK response to the terrorist act pretty well...
- <inteliboy
- hmm... actually started great. but then he goes off tap and starts forcing his own fear mongering rubbish. As usual.inteliboy
- Trump and Fox News will save us all.utopian
- Any truth in this is going to be lost because of the way it is framed. And this guy knows it. Deliberately sensationalised in order to shut down debate.Fax_Benson
- "the west is refusing to acknowledge that ANYTHING of the sort is even taking place" - suggest that isn't quite right and you're a liberal cuck enablerFax_Benson
- I don't see the need to lie throughout - unless of course you WANT people to react to the semantics of the lie, rather than the issueFax_Benson
- fadein11-6
❤ Manchester :)
Manchester bombing: Mancunians shut down EDL rally after terror attack
Mancunians were quick to condemn a group of English Defence League protesters following the deadly explosion which killed 22 people and injured more than 59 others.
Men carrying English flags protested outside the Arndale Shopping Centre in the city centre, which had been evacuated earlier that day.
Local people who opposed the extreme right-wing protest outnumbered those of the EDL.
- downvoted by QBN EDL supporter - fuckin' lol.fadein11
- Manchester won't be divided or become part of the narrative - they are far too proud of their city to turn against their own.fadein11
- who the fuck downvotes this? really wow - who dislikes a city standing up against cunts using a tragedy to further their own ends? Fuck youfadein11
- monoboy0
Calls for the death penalty are gathering momentum.
http://www.kentnews.co.uk/news/k…
Not convinced it'll be that effective against suicide bombers though.
- Using Sharia Law to combat extremists goes against all logic imo.monoboy
- Another home grown extremist. Time to get real and flush these fuckers out of our communities.monoboy
- Those that leave the UK for 'jihad' should never be able to return.monoboy
- good luck with thatfadein11
- We need more than luck sadly.monoboy
- Making martyrs of those sentenced to death. I don't think that politician has thought it through. But wait! Election!face_melter
- kent. you gotta love the kentish folk...hans_glib
- having grown up in Kent I can verify that some are very kuntish folkBluejam
- mrAtor3
The UK is the most observed nation in the world thanks to Mother Teresa's snoopers charter, did it work, did it fuck!
12 years on from 7/7 and we have learnt nothing, nada, zilch, feck all. But we do have some nice military rapid response units to make us all feel safer.
The UK gov need to stop British citizens becoming radicalised instead of spending all our hard earned tax on wars in the middle east. The repeat patterns are painfully obvious: Male, British, known to Security & extreme religious views.
Finally, look at what has happened so far on Teresa's (Mrs U-Turn lie fest) watch: Westminster attacks, NHS hacks, Manchester attacks. It's only going to get worse with her in charge...a lot worse.
- +1fadein11
- I hear you but UK is making a lot of money and making the government infrastructure iron tight from these terror attacks. Government level its big business.mugwart
- I do agree with your points though!mugwart
- The UK has been the world's most snooped-upon nation in the world far before May's rubber-stamping of preëxisting strategies existant for decades.detritus
- People have these airy fairy fantasies that ['New'] Labour didn't have anything to do with thecurrent situation. The UK has always been thus.detritus
- Ok, just to be clear, fuck Labour toomrAtor
- @det - I don't know anyone who doesn't blame Blair and New Labour for pretty much every mess we are in now.fadein11
- Jack Straw, Labour Home Sec. at the time, was a fucking authoritarian demon who laid the foundations for the current erosion of civil liberties.face_melter
- He introduced additions to the Criminal Justice Act that made even Michael Howard balk. Fuck him.face_melter
- Not to mention his blood lust for Iraq and sucking Pinochet's rancid cock.face_melter
- English havent stop fighting in centuries. We financed the 'thugs', we had the pirates on the pay roll. God save the fucking queen. But hey we had the beatles.mugwart
- set2
Manchester
- It's sunny, it can't be.detritus
- I post on imgur everyday and once a week I might notice one comment. This has 26 already https://imgur.com/ga…set
- coolmonospaced
- At least here on QBN you get a shit joke as your first comment...detritus
- Bluejam0
US leak of Manchester attacker's name strikes new blow to intelligence sharing
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-n…
- Americans always been like this? No?mugwart
- nofadein11
- You have very weak leaders all over Europe and I guess you'll invite more Muslims there now.robotron3k
- the UK took v.few Syrian refugees so wrong again Robofadein11
- ignore the cuntBluejam
- I'm trying...fadein11
- Don't mistake liberalism for weakness.HAYZ1LLLA
- the weak are clearly the fact and science denying conservativesmoldero
- Bluejam0
UK police 'stop passing information to US' over leaks of key evidence
- _niko3
this is pretty brutal, a photographer embedded with Iraqi forces hunting Daesh.
- i_monk0
It's not the left enabling radicalization of immigrants, it's the right insisting they aren't welcome, disenfranchising them at the ballot box, harassing them in the street, vandalizing their institutions and property, and even generations later after doing everything to make poverty intergenerational, questioning their citizenship and loyalty and contribution.
- what part of the world are you talking about here?IRNlun6
- Is it the rights fault that ISIS just recently took over a city in the Philippines and is systematically slaughtering people?IRNlun6
- Look at the last two days of posts in the thread for a hint.i_monk
- +1fadein11
- @IRN - ISIS does not equal Muslims - this is where your small brain malfunctions. ISIS is around 100,000 (mainly brainwashed) of 1.6billion people.fadein11
- Do the mathsfadein11
- ISIS is global. They want you convert or die. Disenfranchisement doesn't drive people to slaughter indiscriminately.IRNlun6
- oh you silly man - ISIS is not ISLAM - stop getting them confused.fadein11
- ISIS is christian... everyone knows that... jeez, guize, c'mon.PonyBoy
- ... or wait... they're actually derived from Buddhism... right?... wait... no... um... ... Judaism? Gosh... where did ISIS get their belief system?PonyBoy
- Yes, even my small brain can recognize it's more nuanced. I never blamed your faith and understand perfectly why you want zero association with those people.IRNlun6
- They on the other hand would gravely disagree with you on not being muslims. It doesn't take many to create that black swan type event Nassim Taleb coined.IRNlun6
- oh god - more arguments over semantics - you all got the point. Extremists exist in all religions throughout the ages. You are being spun, wake up. The warfadein11
- machine goes on.fadein11
- There were 17 million Germans that voted in the nazis but not all of them were genocidal maniacs, most were peaceful law abiding citizens._niko
- Yet we have no problem vilifying the nazis for the actions of a few._niko
- thanks nikofadein11
- And Isis members start off as law abiding good peaceful Muslims but for whatever reason they turn. So it's natural to look at them with suspicion_niko
- doesn't mean nazis weren't germanIRNlun6
- Thinking will this good Muslim become radicalized and blow up 100 people one day? You don't really say the same for Christians or Buddhists or atheists_niko
- and we do have a problem vilifying the few because many minimize the problem or even agree that it exists in the first place.IRNlun6
- I think it's how our brain is wired, Monsanto might do so much good in this world, feeding the planet but we vilify it because of its stand on gmos_niko
- We look at things as a whole and judge them by their worst. Right or ring that's how we look at brands and everything else._niko
- It's all blowback from decades of horrific abuse of the region. If you believe people are intrinsically evil then you have major issues.fadein11
- Unfortunately especially in the west all news about Muslims is negative 99% of it is about some atrocity. This doesn't help the brand._niko
- We don't hear about innovations, advances in technology and science, advances in medicine, arts, culture literature... all we get is the shit._niko
- So right or ring it's hard for the average person to defend Islam if all they ever see is the worst of it._niko
- yepfadein11
- branding is a very good analogyIRNlun6
- @niko - but those who base all their beliefs on what has been spoon fed to them by the media are probably a lost cause anywayfadein11
- lol fadein I've taken a step back and you've totally turned in to me. lol @ small brainset
- This thread is hilarious. Keep em coming...Cactus
- fadein110
Just a small reminder from 2016 for those on this site in the dark.
More than 30,000 Muslims from across the world meet in the UK to reject Isis and Islamic extremism
- I reject a lot of things, but they still happen.
There are billions of other equally-useless people such as me out there.detritus - these are Ahmadi muslims which make up less than 1% of muslims. and to boot, are persecuted by most all of other muslims for their beliefsGnash
- ... for those on this site in the darkGnash
- Ah yes.
https://www.theguard…detritus - Gnash, the bringer of lightDillinger
- is it similar to how catholics wanted to murder protestants and vice versa? Jesus stop looking for an excuse to hate all muslims. Or perhaps get to know a few.fadein11
- @gnash - so you are saying that this group of muslims are the only who reject ISIS/extremism? I really hope not. Because that is ridiculous.fadein11
- I'm only referring to the 30K you pointed out -- obviously trying to suggest that they speak for majority of muslims, when they clearly don't.Gnash
- I found the Arab league summit to be far more impactful but unfortunately it was just 'herp derp, look at Trumpf' completely missing the significance of it all.IRNlun6
- Arab-Islamic American Summit rather...IRNlun6
- @gnash they do speak for the majority of muslims - are you entertaining the idea that the majority approve of extremism? silly. As I said comment when you havefadein11
- muslim friends.fadein11
- you're quite wrong there. the majority of muslims aren't fans of this particular sect, and they absolutely don't speak for them.Gnash
- the only idea I'm entertaining is that the purpose of your post is not support by the content of it.Gnash
- *supported. and the fact that my best friend, from the age 16, is a muslim Turk doesn't make me an expert in islam.Gnash
- not that, is a fucking idiotic thing to say.Gnash
- your heart's in the right place but your brain could use some omega-3Gnash
- Yes as you said before. I stand corrected if this particular flavour of Islam who reject extremism are not a good example. Of course having a muslim friend fromfadein11
- 16 does not make you an expert on Islam. I have a number of longtime friends. And I have consistently debated the problems with Islam and indeed all religionsfadein11
- with them. And I have also experienced nothing but warmth and positivity from their extended families despite them knowing I am an atheist. I am probably goingfadein11
- off topic but I really don't think blanket judgement of people of a certain faith is helpful when a miniscule proportion of them are actually carrying out thefadein11
- atrocities. I think that is the aim of terrorism and I will always fight against it. Not as a so called 'liberal' but because I was brought up to respect peoplefadein11
- however different they are. Fuck ISIS, fuck terrorism. Noone disputes that - but don't play out their intentions because then they have won.fadein11
- @gnash - I do rant a lot and should slow down when typing. And i know I wind people up. I have you. so my apologies for that. I know you talk a lot of sense.fadein11
- Whats really sad is I eat loads of omega 3 - I eat fish (of the oily variety) around 5 times a week. So perhaps I am just stupid.fadein11
- yes everyone heard there was free money being given out in the UK, no doubt Muslims are headed hererobotron3k
- the truth of the matter is that isis is overwhelmingly sunni. Probably 99% if not 100%. Same for al quad, same for the 9-11 hijackers. they've been massacering_niko
- shiites and other muslim denominations for decades. Gnash is absolutely correct that if only shiites, kurds, ismaelis, ahmadis, etc protest the actions of ISIS_niko
- then it's almost a moot point. If sunnis are fostering this extremism and not doing anything to curb it, and are being protected by liberals sweeping them_niko
- together with other muslims who are standing up, and not seeing the difference then it's a dangerous and misguided policy._niko
- lol gnash
+1set - Fuck themmaquito
- I reject a lot of things, but they still happen.
- Beeswax-2
- this guy is probably working on the manchester bombing conspiracy video nowmoldero
- With Mkultra admitted, we do have to take into account the possibility of something this f'ed up. The timing of this is politically perfect. Dark daysmugwart
- Yea but it's far easier to just instantly deny it as crazy and get back to your shitty life, mugwart. Much easier.set
- plausible for surekona
- @set - the irony is the mainstream narrative has become more crazy than the 'conspiratorial' ever wasmugwart
- haha, indeedset
- The people still in denial really are clutching at straws these days. The poor little fucks.set
- in fairness - if they start to think differently and research - they hit Alex Jones very quickly ....mugwart
- i bet alex is talking about this shit right nowmoldero
- I'm convinced that guy is on the pay roll.mugwart