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- sureshot1
Barcelona 'attack': Van drives into crowd of people in Las Ramblas area in city centre
- sureshot0
Brussels station evacuated after reports of explosion
- BREAKING: Police 'neutralized' person wearing explosive belt at Brussels Central Station - https://twitter.com/…sureshot
- ughKrassy
- I wonder who could have done something like this in Europe? it's such a peaceful, welcoming society there...robotron3k
- ^ More likely to get shot by a cop or some crazy with a gun in America than being the victim of a terrorist attack in Europe mate.BusterBoy
- But America is such a peaceful welcoming society.BusterBoy
- sureshot0
Suicide Attack: Champs-Élysées terror in Paris as armed driver RAMS police van, car filled with weapons and gas bomb.
- fuck that.. never going to France, London etc again.sureshot
- vid: https://www.youtube.…sureshot
- chill, it was an attempt, he didn't hurt no one except himself.uan
- Chill? You are joking right? this is a 3 hour drive away from me.sureshot
- not to mention the bombings at Brussels airport which is very close to me also..again fuck that.sureshot
- I am moving to Switzerland.sureshot
- aah, they took his trousers off - I thought this was the first hot-pant wielding Jihadist. THAT would be terrifying.detritus
- ^ lolsureshot
- Seems like the UK is reaching a boiling point...robotron3k
- ^ Robo, Paris is in France.microkorg
- Not much about this elsewhere - even on other swivel-eyed outlets like Daily Mail. Also Pamela Geller? Really? She's a fucking bam.face_melter
- sureshot2
Police investigate ‘potential terror’ as van mows down Muslims near Finsbury Park mosque in London
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/editi…- "A man was killed and eight people were injured when a suspected terrorist drove a van into pedestrians near a mosque in north London "sureshot
- Reverse Terrorism?d0mino
- It was only a matter of time before the right wing fanatics turned Jihadist themselvesyuekit
- there's no such thing as reverse terrorismlowimpakt
- moronic thuggery playing right into the hands of the hate preachershans_glib
- jaysus christ domino. 10 people mowed down by a van while caring to an elderly man who'd collapsed.kingsteven
- It's called a Hate Crimejmckinno
- What the fuck is 'reverse terrorism'? When someone runs into a crowd and starts singing and handing out flowers?face_melter
- ^ that would make a pleasant change. Not a bad idea right now! Maybe get some sponsorship from Columbia road market!mugwart
- not terrorism. rascism. I doubt the intention was for a bigger cause other than "retalliaton" (I use the term loosely)trooperbill
- The intention was to make Muslims afraid of living and practicing there. Achieved terrorism.monospaced
- Like, why is everything terrorism now, before an investigation or a threat or a demand has been made...?robthelad
- @robthelad not everything is terrorism - this is being treated as terrorism by the the authoritiesSlashPeckham
- The point was to make a community scared ... to instill terror in regular lives of regular people.monospaced
- could be terrorism, could be racism, could be a hate crime. Could also be a devastated grieving father who lost a child in the concert attack and snapped._niko
- terrorist attack... doesnt matter what colour the person is who commited it nor the colour of the people attacked...cruddlebub
- http://www.reactiong…i_was
- detritus3
After going to drink with the Borough market traders on Saturday night, guess who went to Finsbury park for a picnic with some of that group yesterday evening with some of that same group?
When the helicopters whirled overhead and sirens all about, we all checked our phones, but it was too early to report.
When we eventually left and got buses from the station a couple of hours later, we were utterly oblivious to what had transpired a very short distance away.
Fun times.
- Damn phone editingdetritus
- Lol -1detritus
- All the rules of Muslim religion, and it being quite an alien custom for the general UK population, is just creating a divide.fruitsalad
- Throw into the mix some terrorism from a very minor muslim fraction, and a general lack of willingness to assimilate,fruitsalad
- and you've got a two tectonic plates in friction, something going to snap on either side...fruitsalad
- If you welcome a stranger into your home, you're willing to hear their story and hear how they live, but they a guest must quickly adapt to your customs...fruitsalad
- otherwise it's just bad manners.fruitsalad
- assimilate your own cock hole you racist prick. out of the blue justifying a terrorist attack because they haven't taken up the customs of your shithole?kingsteven
- don't feed the fruity troll - he spouts his bile at any opportunity.fadein11
- Idiots, I'm not justifying it, I'm trying to "zoom out" and look from afar and guess what is causing all this nonsense.fruitsalad
- the problem with guesses is they are often wrong.lowimpakt
- zoom out and look at the real causefadein11
- ok, I'm mistaken, which makes sense seeing the extent of the Police involvement - this happend about an hour after we left last night.detritus
- What doesn't make sense then are all the helicopters and sirens beforehand, and how my partner seems to manage to miss these things by about an hour...detritus
- (not implying conspiracy, just weird coincidence... and perhaps a little bit of conspiracy where my partner's concerned...)detritus
- detritus0
this had me giggling a bit.
This, on the other hand, did not.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=…
(terrible source and quite grim viewing. I've watched it a few times, taking in how quickly Shit Happens in a situation like this. Now all I can think about is my gf being there not long beforehand and wtf she'd've done had she been attacked).
- I'm wathcing the victim's reaction here, I mean - not the deaths of the shit-eating pricks.detritus
- tldr; Fucking Run.detritus
- what's on the other link? not watching if it's civilians getting killed/injured.lowimpakt
- Also, I think the victim here survived.
How, I do not fucking know.detritus - It's the fuller version of this
https://www.youtube.…detritus - Yeah, sorry, low. I'm trying to get insight here, not douse myself in others' tragedy.detritus
- horrible as it is, it may be useful to play through these scenarios out in your head in case you ever find yourself in a situation.lowimpakt
- I try to read and see as little as possible since the Nice attack. This one was too grim... just imagining the scene :/dyspl
- hey dyspl, good to see you... although rather not here :\
xdetritus - :)
Hope you're welldyspl - Was chatting to 'the Italian mafia' on Saturday. Fucking grim and such lovely people.mugwart
- I was down getting drunk with them after market in the back on Saturday :)detritus
- Beeswax-1
- what am I looking at here?utopian
- perhaps that most of the likes are 'haha' and 'love' from saudi arabia.kona
- theres laughs at saudi arabia?cruddlebub
- the propaganda war we're about to witness in the next few months will be impressive.IRNlun6
- there are 20 million shiites in Saudi Arabia, if they keep laughing like this they will be cryin too.Beeswax
- Too much, Ha Ha, pretty soon, Boo HooGnash
- (what i'd often say to my kids)Gnash
- What exactly is the point here ???gonzalle
- Media is the Manipulator.robthelad
- yuekit0
So Saudi Arabia and UAE cut ties with Qatar, supposedly over their connection with Iran and Muslim Brotherhood.
Then the very next day Iran is attacked by ISIS.
Is it wrong to think this is connected? Seems like the proxy war between the two sides (Gulf States vs. Iran) is escalating dramatically.
- see you all in Qatar 2022!
http://images2.gazze…_niko - and a week before Drumpf put his hands on an orb with them. No need to be Sherlock for this.Beeswax
- Iranian militants are also fighting ISIS so not a surprise they'd attack. Iran could also just be returning the accusations of supporting terrorists.IRNlun6
- see you all in Qatar 2022!
- detritus-3
A little sobering..
https://www.theregister.co.uk/20…
"In a democracy, it would not be acceptable to have a security service police force that is so enormous that it can follow everyone around. That is something to remember when you hear all those criticisms of what is going on."
- -2? some of you are really odd. Of course you won't explain yourselves, mindless negative pricks that you are.detritus
- chukkaphob14
London attack: Football fan shouted 'F*** you, I’m Millwall' and took on knife-wielding terrorists with his bare fists
http://www.independent.co.uk/new…
- cool guy! respect!renderedred
- balls of steel!utopian
- O'doyle rules!moldero
- he was drunkdrgs
- I'm Millwall ?i_was
- @i_was - UK football team with very 'passionate' fansfadein11
- for 'passionate' read 'love a bit of argy-bargy'hans_glib
- THIS GUY! ... and the guy at Glasgow Airport attack who stopped the terrorist by booting him in the balls.microkorg
- Is he a real person?robthelad
- ^ looks quite real .. head, hair, two eyes, two arms, ears .. certainly doesn't look like paper mache.microkorg
- detritus0
No #PreyForTehran ?
- 'prey'
bit bleak that, innit?face_melter - Meh. Praying is so 10th century.Continuity
- haha, whoops, Freud be damned!detritus
- Shit just got real, don't be surprised if Iran hits back at the Saudis next. They did assassinate a prominate Shia cleric last year as well and Iran was pissed_niko
- its on like donkey kong. Power play in the middle eastDillinger
- Saudi pushing for regime change in Qatar too.Dillinger
- Pretty much what i thought when I read it, _Niko. Given our shitty alliance with SA here in the UK and US, it's all a bit despairing.detritus
- ...not that the gay-killing, pre-execution female virgin-raping sky-daddy regime in Iran's much better.detritus
- 'prey'
- monoboy3
Once again. Second generation, born and bred in the UK. Radicalised and known the the Police.
Keen Arsenal fan, who wore a football top whilst carrying out the attacks. If that's true, how much more Haram can you be? During Ramadan too.
These pricks are living in some sort of martyrdom fantasy whilst actively participating in British culture. It's properly twisted.
- *It is not clear if he was born in the UK or abroad.monoboy
- *and first generationmonoboy
- 'martyrdom fantasy' is a good term for what these imagination-less pricks suffer.detritus
- Born in Pakistanfadein11
- according to the article he got kicked out of mosques, two neighbors went to police about his radical behaviours and scotland yard waited for him to do smtng.Beeswax
- this reminded me of former Turkish prime minister once saying "we can't arrest suicide bombers before they blow themselves up"Beeswax
- there should be a three strike rule, they easily give themselves away before commiting a crime. one or two signs could be a mistake but after third pack them upBeeswax
- and drop them on the sahara.Beeswax
- https://www.youtube.…mugwart
- It's easy to apply your own rhetoric to a person when they're shot dead with no trial.robthelad
- Gardener4
- They forgot
#PrayForAmerica - 20 January 2017kona - how about #actfor or #stopPraying and actually do something for_niko
- cause the customer service there is absolutely shit. There hasn't been a prayer answered in over 3000 years, and I thought Bell was bad._niko
- praying works thodopepope
- #Pray for whateveri_was
- lol @ praying worksmonospaced
- They forgot
- set1
There really should be a blanket media silence on terrorism from now on. Don't give it any coverage or exposure whatsoever.
But no, of course the scum media won't do that, they thrive on this shit.
- There also needs to be far more discussion and criticism of certain ideas within Islam, without being labelled a racist or bigot.inteliboy
- if the wankers would be ppl of faith they would respect their own religious laws. it's ramadan, so muslims are instructed to refrain from fighting.uan
- But when Ramadan is over, it's completely okay to fight.Claymantis
- srsly asking, is this a positive psychology thing? like don't talk about suicide and it will happen less? what news should be allowed vs censored?sofas
- for example should lousy education, poverty or pollution be covered?sofas
- I am concerend that silencing the issue won't make it go away, and suppressin the discourse will create other problems, but maybe I didn't understandsofas
- reduced reporting for sure - the rolling news is horrible to watch and feeds the problem on all sides.fadein11
- @inteliboy - what media are you reading/watching? the mainstream media in the UK is heavily weighted against Islam - the problems are discusses/criticisedfadein11
- endlessly.fadein11
- I don't see mainstream media weighted heavily against Islam at all. If anything any criticism is quickly met with accusations of islamophobia and bigotry.IRNlun6
- @fadein11 I also think the problem is the broadcasting oligopolies. Give the public access to broadcast what ever they want and mass media's power might declinesofas
- You and I fadein have been arguing about this probably for a couple years now and my position is most definitely in the minority.IRNlun6
- We have social media now. Controlling the news cycle is nearly impossible at this point.IRNlun6
- never talked about this w/ fadein :)
Social media is not an equal alternative, folks don't have journalist privileges, access to broadcast equipment etc.sofas - terrorism thrives on mass fear. fear is best instilled in people through propaganda ie the media apart from the act itself. i'm with @set on this one.renderedred
- @IRNlun6 I agree with you about the Islamophobia claims, but the wider picture includes the context of covering Islam vs others, coverage time and sentimentsofas
- Are criticism of Catholicism met with the same reaction? I'd like to hope what set suggests would help. I just see it as impossible at this point.IRNlun6
- Although I agree sofas on coverage time.IRNlun6
- On second thought, criticism of Catholicism is more widely accepted because they allow it. They sure a hell didn't allow it in the past.IRNlun6
- prsnly I want to be entertained and the news cycle delivers more. It's sick and so is society, but raitings (mixed with propaganda) talk. also chicken and eggsofas
- @IRNInun Catholicism just deals with it differently. They don't accept criticism. Did anything change in regards to rampant pedophilia within their ranks ever?renderedred
- @sofas exactly. media is an industry, ratings are the currency.renderedred
- the Church hired better PRsofas
- and lawyers ;)renderedred
- Fair points. Perhaps it's an unrealistic expectation that any faith would self criticize.IRNlun6
- Catholicism sure didn't deal with their issues with pedophilia from within.IRNlun6
- the difference is we have people gladly blowing themselves up for religion. That's a problem that should be addressed from within, not denied as aformed
- "only 1% are radicals". IMHO, there should be people turned over to intelligence daily on suspicion. It's the only way I see to stop this.formed
- This is were I find the mass media contributing to the problem. For whatever reason they want to push the narrative of nothing to do with Islam.IRNlun6
- In doing so, it also ignores that Muslims are most definitely fighting against this in their own communities.IRNlun6
- Can't quite put it to words. There's a difference between saying a community has nothing to do with an internal problem, but they're dealing with it.IRNlun6
- Vs. acknowledging the problem as well as their efforts to deal with it.IRNlun6
- @IRUNlun6, I agree, and this might be a conspiracy, but maybe not saying it outright increases rage, frustration, anger at PC and vigilante, which fuel raitingssofas
- and support propaganda goalssofas
- @sofas I agree entirely and it's tough to put a finger on why. Does it serve a grander goal of globalization, or more ratings and profit?IRNlun6
- @irn - I said UK media? You live in UK? If so i didnt realise. That being said we were discussing media and all the dominant msm in uk is right leaning and yesfadein11
- The Islam debate is never far from the front pages / screens. UK liberal media is in the minority here. How ironicfadein11
- Liberal as in liberal not the neo variety which so many people seem to confuse these daysfadein11
- I don't live in the UK fadein11 so I'll concede in assuming your media is as biased towards the "left" as in the US. Although I find similarities in narrative.IRNlun6
- Only one thing can be done to stop this, re-write the Koran.robotron3k
- haha - the UK media is biased towards the right - anyone UK citizen will tell you that. And just to be clear for a 3rd time - Islam isfadein11
- under constant scrutiny by it.fadein11
- never a good idea to assume when dealing with v.complex / difficult subjects.fadein11
- Especially when about countries you know little about.fadein11
- I thought you were gonna say "build a wall," or, "ban all muslims," but you surprised me and said something so humanitarian and caring. You never cease to amazemonospaced
- Even the historically left Guardian plays puppet to it's masters these days. Channel 4 news is probably the closest to a left media we have and The Mirror butfadein11
- that's a reactionary redtop.
And don't get me started on the BBC - the most biased of public service broadcasters.fadein11 - Yeah this needs to be part of the discussion. The whole purpose of terrorism is to create a media spectacle and that's exactly what Western media delivers foryuekit
- them. Not that it should be ignored but imagine if it was covered at the same level as any other tragedy, would the number of attacks go up or down as a result?yuekit
- ugh... they're zealots... they do this for GOD not MEDIA ATTENTION. Yeah, the attention furthers their cause... but it's all about their FAITH.PonyBoy
- They're willing to die w/out a second thought... 'ignorantia' isn't a solution, ffs.PonyBoy
- I'm waiting for someone to say 'we just need to help them get jobs and improve their living situations' as a solution for some faith-driven maniac... :/PonyBoy
- No such thing as faith driven in this case. Quran clearly forbids killing innocent civilians. But for the last 100 years Muslim people are massacredBeeswax
- and humiliated by Western powers this is the psychological outcome of this. They are crazy not Muslim or anything. But I blame your gvernments for deliberatelyBeeswax
- pushing people to this stage, For them it's a win win situation.Beeswax
- I'm a lucky Muslim, but if my house was in Palestine or Iraq or Afghanistan and one day "peace powers" killed my beloveds destroy my city I don't know whatBeeswax
- I would turn into. Same for you. This is the result of your countries' dangerous politics.
Don't we all know that west created ISIS, or are we playing dumb?Beeswax - Why are they willing to die, bees? All 3 must be mental patients? Bullshit. It may not be in line w/your beliefs, Bees... these guys died for 'their' God.PonyBoy
- is it the western powers bee, or is it muslim powers? Saudis vs Persians, Sunni vs Shia, everyone vs kurds and all the proxy wars surrounding it?_niko
- yes, george bush was a complete fuck up and the US should never have done what they did, but blaming western powers for the whole mess in the middle east is_niko
- laughable, turn the mirror inwards and see what the real issue is._niko
- there is one nation in the middle east that all western powers kneel down and suck the dick of, why don't you start with that one before casting stones._niko
- Beeswax-1
Did UK funded jihadists?
Yes.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-n…
Did US created ISIS & Al-Qaida?
Yes.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/ame…
Did Israel benefit from these groups?
Yes.
Did this video not leaked?
Yesso how come anybody still claims that Quran commands killing of innocents?
I mean most of you are pretty ignorant right and some of you are not ignorant but biased because of anti-religion, atheism, but don't you know that for over 1400 years a big part of Spain, all of Balkans, Israel, North Africa, Middle East, Persia up to China and all the other religions lived in these places lived under Muslim Empires?
They had their Churches, they had their Synagogs, Ottomans helped bring Jews to Israel that were running away from Spanish expulsion. Moors created universities that all the scholars of different religions worked together.
In Middle ages, under a monarchy run by Sharia Law, no non-muslims killed, harrased, massacred. Their rights protected by the law of Quran, so much that they actually became the richest of their societies because they were not obligated to join wars or army.
If it was ordered in Quran don't you think they would wipe of all the other religions, destroy they temples?
There's no such thing in Quran.
For this reason Islam was the religion of peace until this century. Until first, they got pillaged by colonialists, then industrialists and lastly capitalists. You can squeeze communists somewhere as well.Go to Egypt as a tourist, travel to Turkey, Morocco even Iran. No one would touch you, they would welcome you more than your mom welcomes you, but ask them what they think about the Western powers.
They are not as idiot as some the people on QBN, they won't say Bible or Torah says such and such so we got ruined by their military attacks.
They know how to separate the outcomes of a political propaganda or a political agenda of Western countries from the citizens of those countries.
They won't attack your book or your belief. But they will attack your single perspective views on the world. Just like I do.- Read. http://www.jewishvir…Beeswax
- You're right, but expect lots of downvotes from the idiots...set
- Learn.
https://en.wikipedia…Beeswax - Do islam respect other religions?
https://www.quora.co…Beeswax - re the vid:
https://www.metabunk…Gnash - ok lets accept the video is fake. ISIS members cut heads.Beeswax
- True though. greece was under ottoman rule for over 400 years yet able to keep their religion.Gnash
- All this massive propaganda against Muslims must be serving some purpose right. Coz it doesn't really help any muslims. Who benefits from this?Beeswax
- nobody is born an extremist. There are no baby fundamentalist. They are all good law abiding peaceful Muslims. Then they snap. How do you know who's next?_niko
- And we could say that the villification of Islam is Isis ultimate goal to unite all Muslims against non believers for a final apocalyptic battle_niko
- But what do you do in the mean time? Sing kumbia with your dick in your hand waiting for the next idiot to blow himself and your children up?_niko
- And giving everyone a lesson on how Islam was so great 1000 years ago is like saying we shouldn't trust the swedes because they were blood thirsty marauders in_niko
- The dark ages. This is 2017. If we're still killing each other over bullshit religion then we might as well still be in the dark ages._niko
- Atheism is not anti-religion. I believe there is no god, so if you're asking for respect for others' beliefs, please show some respect for others' beliefs.sr_rosa
- We're all just humans at the end of the day...history shows atheists, Christians and Muslims are all capable of doing horrible things.yuekit
- However trying to excuse all Muslims of any responsibility and saying ISIS was made up in a CIA movie studio might be going a bit far.yuekit
- If you've ever had to organise a meeting, you'll know this kind of undertaking wouldn't be possible.monoboy
- People talk. However, agree that we're no hearing the truth. This is about money and power, not religion.monoboy
- ^ yep.mugwart
- You fucking morons, this was for a movie. LOLseverian
- yuekit1
^ Isn't that first link actually saying that Saudi Arabia funds Muslim extremism?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-n…
“It is no secret that Saudi Arabia in particular provides funding to hundreds of mosques in the UK, espousing a very hardline Wahhabist interpretation of Islam. It is often in these institutions that British extremism takes root.”
The Saudis along with Qatar have also been trying to overthrow Assad in Syria and a major part of this was funding and arming Islamist fighters including ISIS. Part of the war of Sunni Muslim countries against Iran.
This was even directly stated by Hilary Clinton in the Wikileaks emails:
"we need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region."
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-em…
Of course the US and UK give money and sell weapons to the Saudis (Trump just made the largest weapons sale in history to them). And they appear to be covering for them, otherwise why is this not a much bigger story considering how much the media talks about ISIS.
- Aside from selling weapons to Saudi an end to the decades long bombing and general fucking up of the region may help matters.fadein11
- #Pray For Middle East ?Dillinger
- It's all a charade. Fund this one, fund that one, on and on it goes...if we cared to sort it out we could, but solutions serve few.formed
- detritus7
Instead of 'terrorism' can we just start calling it 'wankery'? It's all it is.
- wankerismRamanisky2
- The war on wankingset
- Omid Djalili had a pretty good sketch about this, he wants us to call them Nancy Boys.coldarchon
- I prefer cunt attackmugwart
- yuekit0
All this talk of getting tough on terrorism and yet...
An investigation into the foreign funding of extremist Islamist groups may never be published
- for some reason they don't like talks about those shady links
https://www.youtube.…uan
- for some reason they don't like talks about those shady links
- Cactus1
- Looks like England has a war going in but nobody wants to say anything.robotron3k
- war it is.sureshot
- A friend of Sadiqi_was