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  • vespa0

    "we arent' sending over our troops to invade iraqi civilians and drop bombs on thier heads,"

    Let us be clear about what the Bush-Blair attack will do to our fellow human beings in a country already stricken by an embargo run by America and Britain and aimed not at Saddam Hussein but at the civilian population, who are denied even vaccines for the children. Last week the Pentagon in Washington announced matter of factly that it intended to shatter Iraq "physically, emotionally and psychologically" by raining down on its people 800 cruise missiles in two days.

    http://pilger.carlton.com/print/…

    A World Health Organisation document estimates that "as many as 500,000 people could require treatment as a result of direct and indirect injuries".

  • unknown0

    just when i thought i was done with my own thread. i looked up the story of how Sadaam plotted to kill George Bush Sr. on his trip to Kuwait in 1993. Clintion responded to the plot by launching 23 tomahawk missles into Iraq. The article had a quote from former pres. Clinton which for some reason caught my attention. Here it is:

    Clinton, speaking in a televised address to the nation at 7:40 last night, said he ordered the attack to send three messages to the Iraqi leadership: "We will combat terrorism. We will deter aggression. We will protect our people."

    Sounded kind of similar to what Pres. Bush said in his speech last night. Thought you should know before you make your next effigy.

    bB

  • skeptical0

    dear all of you
    i was in war (4 years duration).
    when you survive destruction an post destruction period, you realise that there is no reason strong enough to start any kind of aggression on this planet.

    give your voice against war. it`s least you can do but it`s still something.

  • vespa0

    Respect skeptical.

    My father was orphaned during the last world war.

    Seems like everyone thinks war is like a video game, precise bombs and only evil people being killed.

  • exador0

    tons of respect right back at ya mitsu.
    i enjoy a good debate as well, and have always tried to keep above the name calling...
    once you start down that road you burn every bridge here that you may have made giving advice, or joking around..

    one thing i've always loved about NT was that we could get to know and associate with other designers all over the world..,
    it's only natural that we'll have different opinions..
    how we express those opinions dictates how others will treat us..
    and i like to think that i get treated pretty well here..and treat others the same...

    oh..and mitsu..maybe this could be the bit that changes your opinion a bit..

    IRAQ

    CBS has reported that barely five hours after the attacks on Washington and New York, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is quoted shorthand by aides saying, in reference to Saddam Hussein, “Judge whether good enough to hit S.H. at same time. Not only UBL [Osama bin Laden]. Go massive. Sweep it all up. Things related and not.” (“Plan for Iraq Attack Began on 9/11”, CBS Washington, 4 September 2002) If it weren’t for September 11, would we be marching to war in Iraq today?

    They may have found another excuse; they have wanted to do this for some time. 9/11 gave them the excuse to do many things: Afghanistan, Iraq, the crackdown on civil liberties at home, the crackdown on the Freedom of Information Act – all kinds of things, at home and abroad. They would have found some other pretext if it wasn’t for 9/11 – and that isn’t even a pretext in the case of Iraq. With Afghanistan, on the surface at least, it could be used as a pretext because there was some connection there, supposedly, but with Iraq there is no connection whatsoever with 9/11.