Grafician Hate Why?
- Started 4 months ago
- Last post 12 days ago
- 94 Responses
- kingsteven8
I work with a Romanian guy that is very like graf. Took me a while on the job to realise he wasn't the boss (and everyone else was just too nice to tell him to shut the fuck up).
My Romanian critiques everything i do - everything... edits, type treatment, pacing, composition, branding, audio... like I haven't been doing it professionally for 25 years... then pumps out some of the worst design I've ever seen in my life.
Guy has zero professional courtesy, client hates him and his work, wants to get rid of him but we've explained he'll end up having to pay 4x to replace him because he loves doing all the work no one else wants to do.
After a few years I can filter out the bullshit. It's only work and I can take critique. I like the guy, we talk about gardening.
Maybe one day Grafician will do the gardening.
- Though he's Romanian he's more like a Canada Goose—soaring high, leading the way... and shitting on everything.palimpsest
- It's an Eastern European/Slavic thing. I know a few Russians who are exactly the same. Dunning Krueger, realised bipedally.Nairn
- yep, hate to stereotype but i think a bit of the graf hate is due to cross-cultural misunderstanding.kingsteven
- lol. Are all Romanians like grafician?NBQ00
- no - graficain is just an incorrigible fuckwit._me_
- and yes i spelt his name incorredctly_me_
- germans are the worst.... dont even get me started with austrians...neverscared
- bratwrurst, sauerkraut and an eery precision to the straightline... terrible.neverscared
- The sad thing is that graf believes that is how Europeans behave.palimpsest
- "My Romanian" lol sounds like a toy pet.stoplying
- What all this have to do with me?
Should I fill a thread with stories about all the entitled pricks that happen to be Americans, Brits, Germans, etc. I've metgrafician - But sure, project hardergrafician
- ^Go ahead palimp I even gave you more grammar baitgrafician
- also imagine all the people here making any assumptions irl about other nationalities based on the trash we post here
That would be something...grafician - Dear graf,
I was not the one that took the bait. Are you projecting?
I am also not the one that excuses my behavior with my provenance.palimpsest - I've always admitted to be being an asshole and the merit is all mine.palimpsest
- again, what all this have to do with me?
also who cares if you're an asshole? or whoever else around heregrafician - assumptions like most of us come here because an Irish guy and and Scottish guy are posting memes? and an english guy that lives in scotland that likes recordskingsteven
- and the anecdotes of a man descended from Scottish oat cakeskingsteven
- Graf,
If you've paying attention, I have always offered my time and patience to help those that are having any type of trouble navigating QBN.
Hold my hand.palimpsest - @kingsteven so you're coming here for the content, then what's all this bickering about?
I come here for the content, I post as sort of a bookmarks librarygrafician - Here we go!
This is a thread about why some people hate you.
One of the common topics/reasons is your attitude towards others.palimpsest - WHY would you care enough about me more than my content?
I find all this fuss disturbing...grafician - On this post ks offers his personal account of a similar or relatable experience with one of your countrymen. Do you see the link?palimpsest
- How and why would I take anybody around here seriously when you act like this?
I don't - by default - because I have a life somewhere else, I come here for cografician - ntentgrafician
- The suggestion is that it's a cultural issue. Which is reinforced (to my understanding) by your multiple arguments of "this is how we do it in Europe".palimpsest
- So all this fuss for me is something like "all these people are really weird, but some of the stuff posted here is useful"grafician
- Maybe now you will get why I am being dismissive or whatever
I'm not here to make friends, I am just curious about the content and that's thatgrafician - So all this effort you're putting into trying to insult me or write all kinds of crap, it's all you
If this is how you make fun, go ahead, Idcgrafician - one more thing: it's really funny to notice that the people that bicker or make all this fuss are the ones that post the less
But you do you
Pa pagrafician - You're not being dismissive. You've really engaging in the discourse. Because it matters to you and me.
We're moving forward.palimpsest - I think we all know that you're not here to make friends, you're here to win
And by your standards you are winning.palimpsest - You care about the quality of your posts and by your own judgement they are top notch.
There is something that bothers you about how we see you as a person.palimpsest - Do you see as unfair because people are not engaging you in the (battle)field of your choice?palimpsest
- It's not that you care about our opinion but what we choose to judge you on?palimpsest
- @graf yeah i have no issue. i only made this post because i'm sure some of the bickering is due to miscommunication. your lack of self deprecation, willingnesskingsteven
- to take the L, never stepping down, making your own rules, it is cultural to a part i'm sure. but when you don't provide any background for example my friends'kingsteven
- interest in gardening, it doesn't make for an endearing presence and i think that triggers a lot of people on here. i get more annoyed by people downvotingkingsteven
- your good posts than i get annoyed at your bad ones... and that's about it for me.kingsteven
- canoe1
@Beeswax - OR, maybe he's annoying.
@Grafician - You say you come here for seeing and posting content, not to make friends. What's apparent is that you DO come here for content and posting AND you do the opposite of making friends -- purposely make enemies.
It's time for a change. The longer you live on your self-righteous high horse, the longer you'll regret it. Take it from me.
- I keep telling people to just mind their business...
Also this: embarrassment < value from content - is different for each one heregrafician - It sounds like you're content with the status quo. Hey, as long as you're not indignant, then that's cool. But I don't get the mean-spirited attitude while...canoe
- simultaneously so passionate about the site.canoe
- It's the greatest bookmarks managergrafician
- I keep telling people to just mind their business...
- AQUTE0
You truly need to love someone to hate someone.
- I still believe grafician is unique, lovable, interesting, passionate and talented. I'm not sure we've thoughtfully engaged.canoe
- https://www.qbn.com/…palimpsest
- Longcopylover-6
Do you realise that some of you are bullying someone? I hope you teach your children more decency.
- QBN = Quality Bullying Networkgrafician
- Wow, feeling judgmental are we? I don't have enough fingers and toes to match the count of how much he's bullied me.canoe
- Quite honestly, I'm lucky that I have confidence, because if I didn't the things he said to me would make me spiral downwards. His hands are not clean.canoe
- This thread was inevitable...canoe
- Canoe did you felt like your life was changing in any way after some of our encounters here?grafician
- Some people have very very thin skin it seems.
But I would apologize if I gave triggers to somebody around heregrafician - I have nothing against you canoe, this is my default state: https://www.qbn.com/…grafician
- I don't know what happened and don't follow all the discussions. I just want everyone to live in peace.Longcopylover
- It's okay Long, they just pick somebody for hate every few months, c'est la viegrafician
- @grafician, I didn't like our interactions, from my side and your side. I didn't like the way we treated each other. And it didn't make sense because...canoe
- ...we were on the same page - make design and the world a better place, but here we were being mean to each other. It's like peanut butter fighting the jelly.canoe
- And ultimately I realized that maybe there was something inside that needed to be fixed. And that is accepting everything as it is. #dadissuescanoe
- And graf, "they just pick someone to hate..." You really think you've been Billy Buttercup around here?canoe
- Now kiss.Longcopylover
- If you were raised, or live in a culture, where everyone is a cynic, a pessimist, a snark, etc., I would say that's not how the world at large works.canoe
- I know longcopy that you haven't taken the time to look into this issue, but it's not as flippant as you'd like to make it.canoe
- This has nothing to do with it, I kept asking what all this had to do with me, this thread is just crazy stuff posted by ppl who don't know me. Why should I cargrafician
- e or be upset about it
But it's not a way forward.
Everybody should just mind their own and chillgrafician - How does one mind their own business when you belittle them in the comments? Are you minding your own? Did you ever say sorry for telling me I'm stupid...canoe
- ...and a shitty designer or whatever the eff you said because I don't have an encyclopedia memory of fonts due to the amount of pot I smoked?canoe
- I don't need an apology, but again like I said, be a dick if you want, just don't be indignant too.canoe
- Have you said that to me before? :)))
That's funny!
Ffsake let's act like grown ups
Too much over
reacting around here
Cheersgrafician - All of my asinine remarks on QBN have been provoked. Maybe I'm too immature and sensitive to handle the overwhelming maturity of this site. Cheerscanoe
- I meant this part "I don't have an encyclopedia memory of fonts due to the amount of pot I smoked?"grafician
- https://i.imgflip.co…YakuZoku
- Bullying? Memba those times graf made shitty comments to monospaced upon his redundancy? flol, good times.
Good times. How we lol'd.Nairn - Thismaquito
- https://www.qbn.com/…
Talk about bullyingYakuZoku - We're bullying grafician, are we?
https://www.qbn.com/…
https://www.qbn.com/…
https://www.qbn.com/…Continuity - Man that was tough to read again.canoe
- Sorry. Had to be done, though.Continuity
- It's for the greater good.
Or, at least, general awareness.Continuity
- cherub-3
At first I thought grafician was a cunt.
Then I realized neverscared is at least as cunty as graf, if not more cunty.
In the end, I stopped hating on graf bcuz he chilled out.
Neverscared has no chill.
- And then, Enlightenment: Everyone's a fucking cunt, except me.Nairn
- Lolmaquito
- Hacanoe
- But Nairn. You're the biggest cunt on the entire internet hahaIanbolton
- way more cunty.. but not as a whiner as cherubneverscared
- maquito-7
Mobbing. Yawn.
- Ianbolton-3
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___________________#'I love you Graf'
Who's with me?- Fuck. How do i delete posts?Ianbolton
- hahafadein11
- Have an upvote (but only because I love you).fadein11
- Thanks luv. We need more love on QBNIanbolton
- That was a pretty half-hearted attempt :-Dtheonlyengineerhere
- canoe4
Grafician's response: "Lol America does not had a golden age. You are basically a MAGA person now. You might as well directly voted Trump."
I'm not MAGA. You just need me to be so you don’t have to deal with being wrong.
Not everyone who calls you out worships the sociopathic 8 year old president. Sometimes your arguments are simply straight up mxyzptlk.
- You hide your insecurity behind arrogance and fake intellectualism. You don’t actually want a conversation — you want to perform, to dominate, to feel smarter..canoe
- than everyone else. Every time someone disagrees with you, you slap the MAGA label on them because it’s easier than admitting your arguments might be weak.canoe
- What’s funny is you act like you’re the polar opposite of Trump, but you share a lot more in common than you think — the need to be right at all costs...canoe
- the mockery, the inflated sense of self, the obsession with enemies. You just swapped the red hat for a superiority complex and some bitter coffee.canoe
- It's so transparent, and so boring to me.canoe
- Your deflection, rage at systems you doesn’t participate in, hyperfocus on America despite being European...canoe
- is likely covering deep-seated frustration with your own country, career, or social status.canoe
- Now, canoe, I just want to say that agree with you, and have absolutely no beef to speak of. However: "rage at systems you doesn’t participate in, hyperfocusContinuity
- ... on America despite being European"
The fact is, what happens in the US more often than not have knock-on effects in the rest of the world. So, yeah, theContinuity - ... rest of us out here are pretty concerned about what goes on in your country. That said: most of us also have a life, and don't hyperfocus,Continuity
- ... as you rightly pointed out.
That's all I've got to say about that, really. Carry on!Continuity - Also, alwayssca—oops, neverscared: get a hold of yourself, ffs. you're getting really tedious, too.Continuity
- Topical discussion is fine. He's over the top, obsessed, it's part of his being, unapologetically addicted.canoe
- Hear, hear. Like I said, absolutely no beef with you or what you're saying.Continuity
- Sorry I was out again living my life not bothering with your lousy dumb posts
Get a fucking life, go to vacation in Canada, stfup ;)))grafician - Coming here people talking about me again, BRO LOSE YOUR OBSESSION ABOUT ME
post facts or stfu
fucking grown ups acting like kidsgrafician - look at the simpleton pretending to have something he has no clue about, how proud he is on the rubbish heap he made out of self postulations.sted
- "you cringe ass font ignorant dork"monospaced
- "posts facts or stfu" ...later on... "I checked Grok and America did have a golden age"canoe
- palimpsest9
- Didn't he impose that he has more command of the English language than you do?canoe
- Which was absurd. In my opinion, you're one of the wittiest and most eloquently spoken members on QBN.canoe
- When it comes to English, you're like a specialized dental tool, as opposed to him: a jackhammer.canoe
- Thank you!
It's by no merit of my own. I grew up in Baltimore, that fact made me savor his judgment of my English skills even more.palimpsest - She's beautifulNBQ00
- We, in the Balkans, have great English education. ;)renderedred
- They don't think it be like it is, but it do.palimpsest
- SHEIT she itAQUTE
- dammit this made me log-in again :) u nailed it ahahahasted
- You people are fucking weirdgrafician
- @renderedred one of the first skill you have to master to escape.sted
- @grafician guilt after playin' some pocket pinball? no worries she can grow a neckbeard for you ezsted
- NBQ00-5
We love you graf.
- <3palimpsest
- Keep doing whatever the fuck you think you're doing to make this site great again.palimpsest
- i_monk4
You all need a hobby.
- Putting out my first EP, yet I'm still able to stand up to QBN tyranny, be a dad and a designercanoe
- Think of all the food I post. If that's not a hobby, I don't know what is.Continuity
- Lol. You reminded me of a very important mentor I had... now also a very good friend: bruster.com.uy who uses to tell me, every time I show him some...maquito
- ...design related thing: "maquito, have you tried with trying to fuck?"maquito
- what the whatcanoe
- LOL @maquitoOBBTKN
- Continuity1
- Now it all makes sense.palimpsest
- Designers Republic watch out!canoe
- It's very recent too!
None of that stale shit.palimpsest - This is FRESH!Continuity
- Like I said...you're weirdd people
¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯grafician - < and yes, these are some of my works, apparently presented here without any context
*facepalm*grafician - I just LOVE to design logos and iconography!grafician
- This really can't be his work? Not the Shutterstock logo and Noun Projects icons, you guises are kidding right?utopian
- I'd love to hear about the context.palimpsest
- Nope. Not joking, utopian.
It's the genuine article.Continuity - Here's some context for you:
Your work is shit.palimpsest - The F symbol is for Fog, a secure chat app
Icons I actually designed a long time ago in Sketch to test the app when it was released, then redid them in Figmagrafician - @palimseslf Pretty strong opinion coming from a developer :))) but that's just your opiniongrafician
- But I stand by my works ofcgrafician
- ofcmonospaced
- Dunning-Kruger Effectutopian
- Continuity0
- Uhm...thanks for posting my works out of context I guess?
*facepalm*grafician - Do you think you're embarassing me here with something or...?
I am proud of all my stuffgrafician - But tell me if you want me to design a logo for you Continuity, your old "pd" icon looks dated man...grafician
- Not to mention posting in your big shot creative director concepts like that Star Wars etiquette :))
Come on man...grafician - They just keep getting better.palimpsest
- @palimpost do you mind this is a discussion between creatives
We'll call you when we need something barely codedgrafician - https://gifs.cackhan…maquito
- superiority complex syndromeutopian
- Like years, you're wrong again. You meant creative.palimpsest
- Completely delusional.palimpsest
- ^Continuity
- @utopian
is this your logo slop?
https://i.imgur.com/…grafician - @Continuity hanging people in the cinema to make a joke wins you Cannes? LOL
https://i.imgur.com/…
I've seen better junior work man...grafician - I guess we are all proud of our works
ʕ♥ᴥ♥ʔgrafician - FLOL of course you have, icon boy.Continuity
- Hmmm actually https://www.iconboy.… would've been a great domain for a folio!grafician
- This guy talking about Junior Work but at the same time takes pride in this work? What a joke.canoe
- He’s a senior for suremonospaced
- AARPpalimpsest
- Uhm...thanks for posting my works out of context I guess?
- grafician-7
♥‿♥
- canoe0
The difference between someone who has made it — or at least worked at legit shops — often comes down to one thing: the ability (or inability) to take criticism.
The evolution usually goes like this...
Infantile: “I got a job at a great place. I must be awesome.”
Youthful Hype: “This place is cool, and the clients are big — but wow, there’s a lot of talent here.”
Awkward Teen: “I love telling people where I work. But damn, I haven’t sold anything yet. Am I even good?”
Getting Real: “That Creative Director just shredded my concept... and they were right. I should stop taking everything so personally.”
Grounded: “That feedback was legit. It’s not about me — it’s about the work.”Experienced: “I’ve sold some things. I’ve failed on some. Either way, I’m open. Let’s make it better.”
Zen Mode: “Creativity isn’t constant. Some projects hit, some don’t — and that’s okay. It’s not about defending every pixel. It’s about the result. The goal. The growth.”
Graf, when you 'stand by your work' like it's untouchable, without recognizing the difference between what’s good and what’s just... there, you’re not showing confidence — you're showing you’re stuck.
Still defending your output like a fragile badge. Still reacting like feedback is an attack, not an opportunity. That’s not Zen. That’s still Infantile Mode with a portfolio.
If you’re really as seasoned as you act, you’d know: standing by mediocre work without self-awareness isn’t bravery. It’s just blindness dressed as pride.
- I love how you're giving me career advice and opinions about my work, inventing details and stories for these intricate long postsgrafician
- Are you a failed writer by any chance? Needing to write these wall posts?
Offering any mentorship courses?grafician - all this is silly projecting, wild guesses, speculation, when in fact you know very little about myself, my life and my workgrafician
- Speculation? (1) You can't handle being wrong (re: golden age) or disagreed with let alone criticism (2) You've never shown legit client work. No mysteries.canoe
- you just described yourself
< Are you seriously making a grading stick and trying to grade my "performance" based on QBN activity
Nuts...grafician - You’re not being analyzed—you're just being read clearly.canoe
- You seem stuck in the agency life mindset, get a grip, get a life, stop posting bullshit about megrafician
- You constantly call Americans stupid, but the second someone writes something thoughtful, it becomes a ‘wall of text.’canoe
- You're a running joke here. Not everyone communicates like a college bro.canoe
- Maybe you start a blog? To vent?
Not fully understanding your fixation with my well-being...grafician - "constantly call Americans stupid" EVERYBODY does that, because it's true.
Again STOP fixating on me!grafician - No, they don’t. Saying it over and over again makes you sound ignorant about actual Americans. Sorry, but it’s true.monospaced
- You really think you sound smart by saying "Americans are stupid"? Let me guess, "all Mexicans are rapists" too.canoe
- Romanian Neck Beard Sheep Herder Gurl Dunning-Kruger Effectutopian
- grafician-8
- Btw I would love to see your works too
Canoe? Utopian? mono? Continuity?
Folios?
Are you embarrased to post or? Work under NDA?grafician - Posting you have a job is not posting work gaffe. I've posted on recent work few times, started my own critique threads and have three threads about work.canoe
- You mostly WRITE about work, not post actual work.grafician
- But you don't fucking get it at all. I just explained to you in the previous post how it works. Criticism is part of the game.canoe
- I failed to find your criticism about my workgrafician
- You work as an independent contractor and have NEVER worked at an agency or else you would never be this fragile and immature. Catfish.canoe
- < these are facts, the rest of your bullshit is not!grafician
- LOL again speculating while knowing NOTHING ABOUT ME!grafician
- I worked in Advertising from 2008 to 2016grafician
- AGAIN STOP inventing bullshit about me and STOP PROJECTING and SPECULATING BULLSHIT :)))grafician
- I can put up 10 case studies and 100 logos for that time period. Show the work or disgrace yourself.canoe
- Bro who the fuck you think you are :))grafician
- Why did you post this at all?monospaced
- I'm the guy who doesn't believe your fragile ego ever worked in the field because you still won't show your work as a designer from an agency.canoe
- Didn't you earlier today call us "fuckin' pussies". HA! LOOK AT YOU MAN. CAN'T EVEN SHOW A PIECE OF WORK. Who's the bitch now gaffe?canoe
- To show this lunatic canoe some facts about me, his fixation is not normal
◕_◕grafician - Uhm...WTF is wrong with you canoe? :)grafician
- Calling me a lunatic because you ran out of arguments doesn’t make me crazy—it just makes you exposed. Catfish.canoe
- canoe you're like a dog in heat trying to hump my leg right now
buzz offgrafician - https://www.qbn.com/…canoe
- You're like a wanna-be designer... wait, YOU ARE a wanna-be designer.canoe
- No, no, you are acting like a lunatic get a grip man!grafician
- Btw I would love to see your works too
- autoflavour1
i go away for a week and i miss all the juice
- The sad lil gurl needs daddy's attention but comes here instead.utopian
- the true path to enlightenmentautoflavour
- canoe0
" "constantly call Americans stupid" EVERYBODY does that, because it's true.Again STOP fixating on me!"
- graficianTHIS! Coming from our number one shit poster with an average of at least 15 posts in "America is Fucked" and "Donald Trump".
Your fixation on the United States isn’t intellectual—it’s always emotional. You don’t sound informed. You sound wounded. You need America to be the villain because without it, you’ve got nothing to rant about, nothing to hate, and no one to blame. You talk about the U.S. more than its citizens do and you're not challenging power in real life... you're just cosplaying as its critic because it gives you an identity. It’s not activism. It’s dependence. And at this point, it’s embarrassing.
- 15 posts a week that is...canoe
- Are you okay? Maybe seek some professional help?grafician
- gurl unhinged.utopian
- Is he okay? He’s saying what we’re all thinking. Nothing here is untrue or out of line. It’s about you, maybe you should take it a bit more seriously.monospaced
- You just fixate on the shit I post about america because you live in it and it's hurting you
I have plenty of posts in other threads that you ignoregrafician - SO it's not me, it's defintely you :)grafician
- This is about you, no matter how much you stamp your feet and throw this bitch ass tantrum and scream "no it's you!" Grow up.monospaced