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- duckseason1
- For a bit more detail on what maquito posted aboveduckseason
- My bad! Should've posted the link;
tks duck!maquito
- maquito6
Just a shoutout: I THINK figma's Ai is going to represent an abrupt and profound change when it comes to interaction, UI, UX, and product design... Without meaning to offend, UI design will change.
- https://youtu.be/n5g…maquito
- 100% agree and it's about damn time!whatthefunk
- can't wait for design system integrationwhatthefunk
- it's a bit scary, aint it?maquito
- Figma's AI integration will eliminate UI/UX jobs. The same way Adobe is implementing AI into its products....Job Killers!utopian
- https://media2.giphy…maquito
- upvoting my own career destructionIanbolton
- I’m wondering if it will start to make things look even more vanilla? I do think that it’s a very interesting idea to be able to just write what you want and...lvl_13
- ...have AI create something functional where you can then go in and tweak and iterate on quickly. Can’t wait to try it!lvl_13
- Also want to give a huge shoutout to “suggest auto-layout”! Like holy shit, I don’t have to create a million frames to get something to work correctly?! Amazinglvl_13
- grafician-6
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Actually can't wait for future messages from clients like "we tried to use AI in Figma for our app, but the results are not that great, can you make it pop for us?"
If you use AI you'll get common, boring results, because the AI was trained on common, boring ui kits and concept apps - nothing to do with real life production ready app design.
So I think senior designers will be even higher demand to come up with work that stands out.
At the end of the day, these are still tools - that nobody wanted :))
- My man, clients want common, boring results .... that pop********
- My man, clients want common, boring results .... that pop
- lvl_130
Bump. the conference is back on.
https://config.figma.com/confere…
- jamesbeat3
I discovered a way to get an additional fourth page in the free version of figma: some plugins create extra pages with their components on install – for example "Table Creator" which alone is not all that useful, but hey – free page!
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- sigh********
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- shut the fuck up graficiandetrius
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- grafician-4
Figma Slides is now available to everyone and has PPTX import/export!
- I have been using them for the last month and frikin love em. Simple as shit to bang out a deck.BonSeff
- Still huge files on export tho'
*sigh*grafician - They made it so simple, and maybe the exporting size is a feature to get Mary in marketing to buy a seat to edit in the cloud.BonSeff
- Lol file size on export? Who fucking cares. What year are you guys living in********
- 500MB for a 20 slides pptx? lol
But yes, @BonSeff I do agree maybe they are trying to bring more non-designers ingrafician - Goddamn Mary in marketing. She wants it done in ppt so they can make changes as needed, but then ask you to make the changes anywayGnash
- Salarrue0
- https://www.reddit.c…mg33
- Read this in Lionel Hutz AI. I'm pretty sure "We're flattered that you agree" is punchable language.garbage
- https://tsdr.uspto.g…sted
- just a bunch of assholessted
- grafician-4
Tremendous updates to Figma at Config!
From Sites to Grids in Autolayout to actually useful AI features.
They are coming after everybody!
https://help.figma.com/hc/en-us/…
- Framer needs to worry, Figma Sites looks way more useful and powerful.grafician
- we reached the full cycle from Flashzaq
- Yep, all in one from figma
Adobe might also be in troublegrafician - Figma Draw pretty much killed Illustrator for a lot of people
I am blown away by their releases!grafician - More here https://www.figma.co…grafician
- Game changer! In the website view, there is a cheeky little DB icon with 'CMS coming soon' as a hover state.slappy
- prophetone3
- FIGMA Sites is a big deal if it actually outputs clean and logical code packages... and a CMS backend feature is coming soon with shirts fired at WPprophetone
- I imagine the CMS is a subscription cloud offering only and you're locked in exclusively with them if that's the route you takeprophetone
- I really like how I FEEL this is the first time I'm seeing web get back to Flash era with creative motion and it's going to be relatively easy to buildprophetone
- CMS option says coming soon in the app view. https://imgur.com/gA…slappy
- mort_3
Chuffed with all the updates but just looking at the generated markup from some of the Figma sites templates and it's far from semantic. Everything is a div.
view-source:https://insert-quilt...
- class="css-654654 css-2352467 css-3463
css-346345 css-8424" empty divs are the beststed - Do we still need semantic?grafician
- I’ve never cared about code for a site when visiting. Nor should I.monospaced
- Semantic markup must be important for AI chatbots search suggestion right?mort_
- exactly.. why should u care how sth.
works... useless..neverscared - Semantic is important if the content's worthwhile and to be shared, redistributed direct from HTML or needs to be parsed by some sort of screen-reader.Nairn
- But sure, fuck blind and deaf people.Nairn
- this type of source code: takes more time to load, makes more traffic, and that costs money. lol the entire text is in aria label, this stuff generates junksted
- Ooooof div div div div div div divprophetone
- nested afprophetone
- The templates are fairly sluggish alright.mort_
- It's weird because the have all the semantic elements for dev mode in Figma. Maybe just a beta thing and they'll improve it.mort_
- "Div soup" was common with Web 1.0 WYSIWYG editors — and extremely problematic with SEO, load time (esp. then), etc.; This won't be good.evilpeacock
- oof... ugly :/PonyBoy
- DESIGN TO HTML only works, worth using daily if html/css follows expected semantic structure/logic, frontend devs can’t output, unspagetti traffic accident htmlprophetone
- I have to assume this is beta output logic and they’re going to incorporate a step in render that beautifies the code, it’s the base requirement hereprophetone
- Or maybe they are more focused on the code never leaving their ecosystem as the cms will no doubt be a subscription, cannot be localizedprophetone
- Just found an "accessibility" panel in the right menu when you select an element in sites. It allows you to assign a tag to the element.mort_
- Pretty tedious way to go about it.mort_
- LOL go open a Facebook or Instagram page and check out the source code
< this is acceptable compared to spaghetti code from Metagrafician - Facebook and Instagram are walled gardens, not part of the open hyperlinked web so you're comparing apples and orangesmort_
- uhm Meta must have even MORE accesibile websites and apps than most...
But sure, visit google, cnn, any other major website and look at code for a huge messgrafician - Semantic web sounds like a good idea, but nobody codes websites in Notepad for decades...grafician
- I guess you mean you haven't, I use Zed which is basically Notepadprophetone
- If the point is to 'take over' the dev stage here, which it is, clean and semantic is only way to share efficiently across devs, teams, the planetprophetone
- Let's get real they are intending to make this a one stop shop, designer to output useable code product, it has to be useable and open, not proprietary garbageprophetone
- I don't have 45 META dev's hunched over their laptops sobbing and praying for the end in a dark basement because their job is to de-bug their insane code 24/7prophetone
- @sted: you must _adore_ Tailwind, eh?Continuity
- You can do a LOT with Readymag lol
https://readymag.com…grafician - Not to mention Cargow...grafician
- This should be fun.palimpsest
- Dreamweaver vibesKrassy
- Dreamweaver actually wrote decent html and css compared to these junkyardssted
- If you want to compare it to something that this is the equivalent of MS Frontpagested
- *thensted
- @sted - yeah, it's kind funny to compare the worst excesses of 'bad era' Dreamweaver code for what passes muster these days. We've seriously regressed.Nairn
- which is to say, even the first iterations of DW spat out way more comprehensible code than... <this pile of dog shit, shat, eaten up and sicked out again.Nairn
- class="css-654654 css-2352467 css-3463
- NBQ000
- “not using tags like <section>, <p>, <ul> or <dl>, <li>, and each image is wrapped in 9 layers of <div> elements. The DOM structure it generates is horrendaz”prophetone
- monospaced-2
I’ve never had a reason through work to get into figma, even though I’ve wanted to. But now with Sites, I can’t wait. What a perfect solution to my problem of wanting a website creation software for designers who don’t know shit about coding a good website. I’m giving myself a website project to teach myself.
- Framer and Webflow are already fine for this case, but Figma Sites might be even easier.grafician
- Asking again... why would anyone downvote this?mg33
- lol, bitter neckbeards I guessmonospaced
- Graf, for me it’s about using a tool that will be the better use of time, and the most potential for use in my career. Framer and webflow aren’t that for me.monospaced
- mg33, did I get downvoted somewhere else?monospaced
- Butbut there are like a gazillion sitebuilder solutions, this isn't anything new or groundbreaking.sted
- I upvoted, you have a point dumbassgrafician
- Webflow let's you export code, I doubt Figma will let us export code.
But I am pretty sure Figma will buy Adobe soon enough, they will own the full stackgrafician - Webflow and Framer are platform lockin
Avoid platform lockins for clients
Sure, way easier to build a folio on Framer, but don't involve clientsgrafician - Plenty of "Framer experts" on X and Contra
Next we will see "Figma Sites expert" badges everywheregrafician - @sted name anything besides Framer and Webflow?
WP? Kirby? Headless anything? Name designers willing to go headless anything?grafician - When you can sell $5k-10k Framer websites for startups no coding experience needed ...
Commongrafician - My last websites coded for clients were using WP and Webflow
Pain in the ass maintenance after
WP is not secure, Webflow is shit for ecommercegrafician - Figma will deliver presentation websites and folios like no other - 1 day websites possible no matter how spaghetti code you getgrafician
- @mono was thinking to update folio on Figma Sites vs. WP
Are you up to it too?grafician - Yeah. I want to rebuild a site in figma. Learning figma seems like a lot more useful than the other web only options.monospaced
- Sted, there are some website builders out there, but not like this. Learning figma is learning to use a new tool that is useful beyond site design.monospaced
- mg330
I'm interested in seeing what their CMS feature is. I'm a long time WordPress user now only building sites in WordPress with oxygen builder.
I have not had time to look deep into it, but I do indeed wonder if that sites feature is an alternative, where it hosts, how it could integrate with WordPress, same with the CMS, etc.
- @mg33, look at https://uichemy.com/…
I too am curious...ideaist - Nice. I looked up Figma to Oxygen conversion and found this:
https://levels.dev/d…mg33 - Why would anyone downvote this?mg33
- (weird downvoting lately)grafician
- @mg33, look at https://uichemy.com/…
- slappy3
I think the code criticisms are valid, as no-one wants to head down a pathway where they can only edit a site or try to fix bugs by revisiting the source design and republishing it. You will end up feeding the source into a LLM and pulling your hair out when it starts changing things that are not required.
If they don't get it right it, will be stuck in the budget category with squarespace where its sold to a client as a cheaper option if they don't want to pay for a full custom site, but that it will come with compromises.
I think they will probably get there though, given enough time. They are pulling ahead and and are probably already the industry standard for digital UI.
- Yes indeed - you know, I know, they def know they can't claim to be a design-to-html solution tool for designer devs if the code is branded rubbishprophetone
- I truly hope it gets sorted b/c could be a cool thing to have that as main tool to get a site rollingprophetone
- They are targeting Wix and Squarespace and that's all well and good but design-to-code for a dev is a stretch until it's done rightprophetone
- I think they probably released it now as just having this level of control over responsive prototypes is really useful.slappy
- I'm kind of surprised they didn't go headless with a react style front end and a figma hosted CMS back end. Would make more sense and be more futureproof?slappy
- "Designer Engineer"grafician
- sloppy, I'm totally okay with using the original source tool to edit a website vs relying on code later onmonospaced
- Cool, let us know how you get on. I'll be doing some testing too, I'll report back to the thread too.slappy
- grafician-15
- They filled for IPO btwgrafician
- no one here caresWallaWalla
- The good oldé days of Figma are winding down.utopian
