Chernobyl
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- sarahfailin0
Tonight's episode is the LAST episode. I was not prepared for this.
- raf0
- Is that in response to my post, raf? If so - and I admit I'm no nucular syentist, but I thin kyou need at least a couple of orders of magnitude greater activityNairn
- ..than even the darkest, baddest bit of the scale there (which seems to top out at 1000)Nairn
- A since thanks to the Pyrenees!!OBBTKN
- "A sincere..."OBBTKN
- No Nairn, this thread just lacked a "too close to home" infographic treatment.raf
- Today they say here while radiation in the air increased 550K-fold, the dangerous ones: iodine, cesium + some other radioisotopes' gamma only increased x3.raf
- lemmy_k0
Why is it that they had to kill all of the animals? Did I miss something?
- They were irradiated and needed to be culled so it wouldn't spread.Vandal7
- Gotcha. Thanks.lemmy_k
- Still seems a bit silly. What about all the soldiers getting irradiated? Will they get a bullet next?sarahfailin
- Bennn3
can't wait for the next episode! really good quality cinema
- tank023
That music
- drgs1
- SteveJobs0
Just finished this miniseries - all in one sitting. So good.
Anything else like this? Good documentaries/docuseries?
- I posted a few here: https://www.qbn.com/…utopian
- thanks, I'll check them out!SteveJobs
- Beeswax0
I remember how we got panicked in Turkey because of the clouds that came over the black sea.
Scientists said all the tea and nut crops on the black sea shores were contaminated.
The minister of Commerce went on the TV to drink tea to show people that it's all fine and a bit of radiation is actually ok.
3.5 months later after the incident they found out that the contamination is far more serious so they destroyed the crops or they told us that.
Same minister apologised years later that they were too slow to respond and some of the tea and other produce have already been distributed around the country.- I remember people were afraid of the radioactive clouds coming towards Canada! .. I was a kid and still remember itBennn
- I remember, that too, Bennn. I also remember my parents filling huge plastic containers of tap water, and deep-freezing it, just in case. Scary as a kid.Continuity
- sarahfailin2
I think that New Yorker article colin_s posted is pretty good. It's good to keep in mind what's fact and what is fiction. I also thought at times the character Emily Watson played was unrealistic in her demeanor and maybe a little trite in being the knowing scientist willing to confront directly the systems of power. Especially so because she was a *woman* scientist in the 80s in the soviet union. It felt like that was just a play to modern, western audiences who needed a woman in this drama that's otherwise a sausage-fest.
I think what the article gets wrong is that the show really DOES indict the system more than it does the individual men. The author claims that the show just vilifies a few bad actors and misses the system, but I thought that the show did just the opposite. The central thesis seemed to be that it was the system itself which created the disaster, and the people who played roles in directly causing it were following the design of the soviet system of lies and cutting corners.
It's right though to examine historical fiction and know exactly what is history and what is fiction.
- Milan2
Great show. A lot better than I expected.
- robthelad0
It was okay.
- ernexbcn-4
What I find truly distressing is people yearning for communism and pissed because a show telling just one of the many failures that system caused. This comment isn't about anybody in this thread, just some personal observations from other social networks.
- Nobody wants Communism now do they?PhanLo
- socialism is bad because it has failed? capitalism is failing. bad!imbecile
- derpBusterBoy
- true nuclear fallout has never been triedGnash
- except for Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Bikini Islands, Mururoa,...uan
- but those were from 'capitalism' so probably they don't count ;-Puan
- @PhanLo oh trust me, there are kids longing for communism, I haven't mentioned the word socialism btwernexbcn
- people who think communism and socialism are the same thing probably shouldn't comment about either.Gnash
- i believe i meant to write communism but was subliminally influenced by the social networks at the end leading to the error, either way it was a smartass remarkimbecile
- :)Gnash
- drgs0
https://www.theguardian.com/envi…
Aleksandr Kudryagin
LiquidatorWe had good jokes. Here's one: an American robot is on the roof for five minutes, and then it breaks down. The Japanese robot is on the roof for five minutes, and then breaks down.
The Russian robot is up there two hours! Then a command comes in over the loudspeaker: "Private Ivanov! In two hours, you're welcome to come down and have a cigarette break."
- BusterBoy1
Compelling viewing but every now and again, I'm jolted by the thick British accents. The coal miner confronted in Ep2 sounded like Jimmy from the local tavern in Glasgow.
- raf0
A noticeable increase in thyroid disorders (mostly Hashimoto disease in women) in East Europe has always been attributed to the Chernobyl disaster.
It is now disputed whether it is a direct effect, or could it have been caused by mass-administered Lugol's iodine.
In Poland, some 18 million people, mostly children drank Lugol's iodine when the contamination was discovered.
- teh0
Anyone got a number for the comrade count?
- 31 dead liquidators (directly caused by the disaster) + 4000 later death from cancer etc. Interestingly, all 3 suicide divers lived til 2000's.drgs
- Not that many deaths, when you think about it (9/11 had more), but could have been million times worse, with whole of Europe being uninhabitable for centuriesdrgs
- Two of the divers are still alive today, one died of a stroke or something in the 2000's.raf
- Gnash0
I've yet to watch the show but this twitter thread has made me move it to the top of my watch-list.
Although I'm sure that pr2 has more direct and personal experience that easily dismisses this comrade's perspective
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" I have just finished watching Episode 1 of Chernobyl on @HBO. My perspective is that of someone born and raised in the Soviet Union who has vivid memories of 1986, the catastrophe itself and how it was handled by the Soviet politicians and the state media..."