Sony Alpha 7 II

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  • Bennn

    Any QBNer own this camera?

    Sony Alpha 7 II

    I'm thinking of selling all my Canon gear to switch for this full frame mirrorless. They weight less than DSLR and full frame.

  • NEWSTON0

    I have the A7RII and I love it

    I was a 100% canon before...
    I got the a6000 at first and was shocked at what that little camera could do.... so then I made the jump instantly got the a7RII and am absolutely happy! Solid camera, insane technology, fast, crisp and simply beautiful. It's good. I don't think you will complain. Look up Gary Fong he goes over all the tech at the BH PHOTO talk.

  • Bennn0

    there's not so many lenses available for those tho, no?

    • like, i dont see something like my Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 on my CanonBennn
    • There are a few wide options currently available.... more coming soon, so I've read. http://www.bhphotovi…NEWSTON
  • Bennn0

    the optical viewfinder VS evf on those Sony didn't bug you?

    • The EVF/LCD bugged me enough to keep my big SLR. The Sony was slow to get perfect focus. That said, I also use MF film cameras. Speed isn't everything.nb
    • Also, I notice that all the good Sony primes are big, heavy, and expensive compared to good Nikon primes. Why have a smaller camera the lenses are bigger?nb
    • expensive yes. i know, unfortunate ...
      the focus peaking with the EVF is a win in my book. auto eye focus is a nice feature. goes beyond typical face detection
      NEWSTON
  • pinkfloyd0

    As much as I want this camera, I feel a fuji makes more sense for me as i'm just a hobbyist. Drools.

    • Same here. No way I'll get rid of dslr as my main work horse.pango
  • Bennn0

    The new Pentax K1 Full frame is super cool, but weight a lot! And the again, there are few lenses available.

    The better thing for me would be to stick with Canon cuz I already own a few lenses I like.... But Canon dont have affordable full frame... The only affordable model is the 6D ... its old and have low AF points. I also want a tropicalised body for rain.

    :/

    • time to go to gym yo!pango
    • lolBennn
    • You can use all the old Pentax FF lenses on any of their DSLR bodies. The limited lenses are all FF IIRC.monNom
    • Good FF options from Tamron and Sigma too.monNom
  • Bennn0

    that guy is a good seller for the A7 ii

    http://expertvagabond.com/sony-a…

  • fate0

    Sony a7R II here.

    I was a Canon shooter for years. Had a very nice collection of Canon EF lenses.

    And I still have a very nice collection of Canon EF lenses. I have an adapter and use them all on my Sony.

    • < This. If I also get an A7 of some sort, I'll be getting adapters for my Canon FD lenses, too, as well as my EF ones.Continuity
    • the A7R II is like 3,000$ body only, thats a lot of cash. The A7 II is 2,000$ ... thats a lot too :PBennn
  • Bennn0

    I heard some people are having a hard time to use their Canon lenses with an adapter on the Alpha. How it is for you?

    • I was on a film shoot a couple of months ago where the production crew were using A7IIs with Canon EF 24-105 Ls, with Metabones adapters. Everything went great.Continuity
    • Anyone having troubles, it's probably more about the adapters they use, rather than the lenses theselves.Continuity
    • i seeBennn
  • Bennn0

    If only Canon would make a mirrorless full frame! What are they waiting for

  • Continuity0

    Canon is rumoured to be releasing a new mirrorless this year. Whether or not it's full-frame or APS-C remains to be seen.

    http://www.canonrumors.com/canon…

  • SimonFFM5

    I switched to 7RII. I am a fulltime photographer as you know and can recommend it. Like everything it has pros and cons.

    Pros:

    - Lightweight and much better for travelling (half the weight of my Canon)

    - 42 mp (for me the perfect size, it leaves enough for cropping and everything larger (like 100 mp) would be a pain in the ass for file handling, backupping, etc.)

    - many focus points, officially 399, to me they are a bit less, because against light or in lowlight you can only rely on the ones inside the phase af zone. But there are still around 280 or so. So you can focus very much to the side of an image.

    - good high ISO. I shot a portrait in iso 6400 which was printed full size in a magazine and looked perfectly fine. I would not go beyond that (for skin).

    - filming is excellent, especially because you have af when filming

    - i mostly shoot in aperture priority, so I select my desired aperture and have a minimum speed of 1/125s set, the camera chooses the necessary iso to make it fit (while my max iso is set to 6400), these possibilities are great

    - image stabilization works great

    - -5 to +5 exposure setting (-3 to +3 on my canon)

    - superb automatic features (e.g. face recognition in case you want to do group shots)

    Cons:

    - Battery life is limited to around 400 pics (2,5 hours of shooting more or less for me), you should consider buying extra batteries and a second charger because charging takes 2 - 3 hours

    - When focussing manual and activating the automatic loupe, it always zooms to the center, makes it a bit nasty for manual focussing people

    - electronic viewfinder is ok but slower than that of a dslr, shooting speed will be slower

    - no playback of images while being written on card, this sucks bigtime, i hope it will be solved in future firmware updates

    - i mostly shoot portrait size and have to hold the camera shitty oldfashioned as i don't want to attach a grip (did not like it because I need to screw it on and off, not a fix thing)

    - when watching an image on the screen and the camera is turned, zoom in turns the image back to landscape (hope will be solved in firmware update)

    - skin tones require slight retouching, skin tones by phase one or canon are a small bit better (very very sublte)

    Overall I am very happy. The camera has good options and as it is smaller, it makes it easier to interact with a model. You can also shoot without looking through the viewfinder.

    • Nice pro and con breakdown, Simon. Danke sehr!Continuity
    • Thanks Simon! appreciatedBennn
    • You're welcome. Wanted to contribute because I am not a techno nerd like many people on youtube :-)SimonFFM
    • and Sony compatible TTL 3rd party flashes are no longer so rare... http://flashhavoc.co…vaxorcist
    • You're the best, Simsim.garbage
    • I bought a Nissin Di700A for on the go. Works fine for my purposes (rarely use flash). Camera is best for available light. But pocket wiz + profoto works, too.SimonFFM
  • microkorg0

    I have a NEX5N and have been a real fan of what Sony are doing in the camera world since then.

    Was hoping that the new a6300 would come with a touchscreen update of the a6000 but sadly still no touchscreen :(

    So, going to wait until the a6300 drops in the UK and hopefully it'll bring the a6000 cost down a little too and I'll grab an a6000.

  • formed0

    The problem I had is the lenses end up weighing the same, so even though you get a lighter body, you don't end up saving that much.

    Personally, I am looking forward to the new Fuji XT-2, whenever it comes out. 24mp is enough for me (I have a D800 now).

    I'll try them both, though, when I looked at the AR7R the lenses sucked.

  • Bennn0

    i currently own the Canon SL1 (or 100D)

    This is the smallest DSLR on the market:

    Canon SL1: 407 g
    Canon 5D Mark III: 950 g
    new Canon 80D: 730 g
    new Pentax K1: 1010 g
    Sony A7 II: 599 g

    But the Sl1 is a very average camera. I just bought it 4 months ago. I sold my old Canon 60D to buy it. I wanted something lighter. But now I think I should have wait a little to buy somthing better. With only 9 AF points, it kinda sucks. But i think i will wait to see what Canon have in their pocket for 2016, rumors says they may have a full frame mirrorless coming up.

  • Bennn0

    well, after watching this, i dont want a mirrorless anymore... lol people have good arguments on both sides. I'm so confusedd aaarrmmarghudd!

  • nb2

    It's all about what and how you shoot.

    I am lucky enough to have acquired a D800 and a compact mirrorless and a bunch of film cameras. It would be hard to give up any of them, and I use them for different types of work.

    Meanwhile, my car is a piece of shit.

    • For the record, I love my shitty car! It's very reliable. Wouldn't trade a single camera for a better one. New cars (in my budget) are just ego.nb
  • Bennn0

    I shoot moslty landscape and outdoor stuff. Everytime, that mean I have my camera around my neck for several hours. Thats why the weight is major issue for me.

  • inteliboy0

    am noticing a lot of people shooting on the a7's - especially mounting m glass. The specs are off the charts on the new one, though I personally don't like the PASM controls.

    much more into what fuji are doing, never have to dive into a menu. holding out for the xpro2.


    • I tried to love the Fuji X100T...just couldn't No snap/zone focus. Autofocus slow. UI seemed convoluted to me. Ended up getting a Ricoh GRII. That + Oly EM1sublocked
    • Still I long for 40MP detail shots :/sublocked
    • i think if you shoot autofocus the x series hasn't been very good until recently.inteliboy
    • I generally don't shoot AFS...Have the EM1 set up to focus on the AEL switch, so I can zone focus with AF lenses...couldn't see in store how with X100sublocked
    • Ricoh quite literally is a "snap". You can pre-set snap focusing distance when not focused. Great UI and features on the GR series.sublocked
    • I love the X-T1 and now I have their new 35mm F2, which is nothing short of fucking amazing. Pin sharp and bright - so much fun to use.face_melter
    • The 18-55 kit lens (below) is a genuinely great all-rounder, but the first time I tried the 35 I was grinning like an idiot.face_melter
  • fourth0

    ^
    There is a reason why camera manufacturers went to dedicated command dials- you can use them by feel while looking through the viewfinder. You can customize them, and they are more ergonomic/accessible.

    The fuji dials are primarily stylistic. Glancing at the top of the camera is disruptive. And they get wasted in other modes like A or S priority.

    As for the A7, I never understood why people went for them to save weight/space. A FF lens will always be huge. Main reason why I stick with micro 4/3. Well that and co$t.

    • The Fuji dials work perfectly fine and as you learn the camera (X-T1) quickly changing the settings become anything but disruptive.face_melter
    • ^ I'm sure it's fine, I guess i should rephrase: the fuji's don't offer anymore direct control than a standard camera with command dialsfourth
  • robotron3k0

    Sony has a great camera in a A7ii. The build is beautiful and you can take any shot and it looks solid. The only big downside vs the Pana GH4 is that neither the lenses of the Sony and the body are weather resistant. So you have to be extra careful in crappy weather. So your carrying around a $4,000 camera and one splash and whoops! But I don't have to worry about that with my GH4, as I like to use my equipment and not let is sit on a shelf waiting for pristine weather to take in out in.

    • no, all the Sony's A's are weather sealed. Look it up.Bennn