Apple Music

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  • monospaced0

    When Apple Music first debuted, I was hoping for a useful implementation of its personal curation. I EXPECTED it to churn out playlists based on my preferences and listening habits. When I open Apple Music, and click on For You, I expect music lists curated for me. Instead I find these absolutely fucking useless list of artists and albums that I already own and listen to. Thanks... for nothing.

    Following this initial disappointment and major missed opportunity by Apple, I went back to Spotify, ran the update, and found exactly what I was looking for with Apple Music: Discover Weekly. A playlist curated for me regularly based on music I like, and chalk full of new and interesting things.

    This is exactly what Apple should have done. Instead, they just turned Apple Music into a nightmare UI that makes the whole concept of music discovery basically impossible. I've already ranted on how much I can't stand iTunes (and so has everyone else), but that pales compared to what was promised.

    • <This. Discover weekly was the final factor in deciding to stick with Spotify for streaming.Wolfboy
    • For me too.monospaced
    • I feel like I should be able to open iTunes and have a huge "here's new awesome music for you" front and center.monospaced
    • But switching between Mu Music and Playlists and Radio and For You is a fucking nightmare. No thanks.monospaced
  • ArmandoEstrada0

    There's a hater among you.

    • I think Apple is legitimately capable of better. I'm not hating, I'm just wishing they'd love me back here a little. Instead of just doing the bare minimumjtb26
    • "We need to get streaming to market, here's a bunch of great ideas, but lets execute on them as quickly as possible."jtb26
    • I agree they put it out more out of necessity than demand. But the hater comment, that was probably regarding the downvotes all over this page. :)monospaced
    • Ah, that's an accurate observation. I've tuned out up/down.jtb26
    • I have too. I don't even use the voting here.monospaced
  • Ben990

    Lots of UI Ergonomy mistakes and things that dont make sense in Apple Music... Kinda crazy when you know how much money Apple have and how big they are. Sometimes it looks like they've made it in 3 weeks and just botch some things up thinking ''we will fix this later".

    Microsoft Syndrome has begun.

    • No grandmaster to oversee things anymore... Johnny Ive's skills are more bigger picture stuff. Tim Cook is a flacid businessman.fadein11
    • The Music app is hellish for switching between tracks/albums you have copied to the device. Took me two days to realise it's the tiny red text above the list.face_melter
    • But by then, I couldn't be fucked with it and went back to Ecoute.face_melter
  • face_melter0

    Seems that turning on the iCloud Music/iTunes Match feature is making things all fucked with new handy-dandy DRM, rewriting track metadata, duplicating files, and just deleting shit.

    http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/1…

    • DRM is the worse, I thought they gave that up already.Miguex
    • I know... bullshit.Al_dizzle
  • Miguex-2

    but.. but.. but..

    • any good?prophetone
    • spotify? it's the only thing that made me stop using itunes, since what... os 9?Miguex
    • That's roughly how I felt about Rdio. But Now I feel like it all sucks. I'm now one of those whiney fucking millennials.jtb26
    • Is also switched to Spotify about 4 years ago but had to go back to iTunes sometimes to listen to music I purchased and that wasn't available.monospaced
    • One thing I like is that now my streaming and my library are in one place. I am not loyal to either but do appreciate convenience.monospaced
    • I'm that guy who has a library of all sorts of obscure chins and likely have wut spotify offers anywayprophetone
    • might be decent enough to have the free version though on my wife's phone. she's more recent pop hits n junkprophetone
    • chins = choons hahaprophetone
  • dibec0

    ^ I believe not. You pay the monthly premium to license the music for that duration of time. That way Apple can stick it to you every month. Otherwise, I think people would download a years worth of music and bounce.

    • makes sense. so I assume it's the same for Spotify and Tidal?HijoDMaite
    • Those albums d-loaded during AM subscription are only there to listen to while offline then.HijoDMaite
  • Ben990

    whats are the best alternatives to manage music outside iTunes? On Windows.

  • utopian0

    What Went Wrong?

    Nearly a month after Apple’s streaming music service launched, popular Apple commentator Jim Dalrymple declared Apple Music a nightmare.

    Dalrymple detailed how his personal music library was a mess after enabling Apple Music’s matching service. Songs were missing, duplicated, or placed in the wrong album altogether.

    After countless hours of trying to correct the problem, Dalrymple eventually just turned off Apple Music across all of his devices. The result? 4,700 songs disappeared into thin air, or so it appeared.

    https://www.yahoo.com/tech/apple…

    • Why would anyone even trust the makers of iTunes with their file management? First thing I turned offWeyland
  • stoplying0

    Apple is fucking my shit up.

    Stop being assholes, Apple.

    • I read that today's iTunes update fixes the Match fuckups.monospaced
  • Ben990

    Wow!

    So many things needs to be fixed in iTunes/Apple Music... it's fuckin crazy! Did they even try to made a focus group to test that shit? Geezuz! Srsly ...

    • i'm adding music in my library with Apple Music, but after adding like 20 albums, i noticed none of them has been added! Needed to add them a 2nd time to work!Ben99
  • scarabin0

    streaming does nothing for me at burning man where i can't get a connection :/

    • you can download everything for offline listeningBen99
  • Ben99-2

    I really like it so far. The only thing that bugs me is the DRM... If in 6-10 years i cancel my Apple Music membership, i will lose access to all the albums i own instantly.

    But. Since real good album are kinda rare. I think i will t0rr3nt the albums i REALLY like and want after listening to them on Apple Music. For my personal archive.

    • I thought Apple stripped all the DRM years ago... your'e able to move your MP3s around and burn them, no?monospaced
    • burn? like on a CD-R? man those are dead :PBen99
    • I thought the DRM is just on the stuff you add to your machine from the stream service, not iTunes.?jtb26
    • exactlymonospaced
    • you stream it, you don't "own" itmonospaced
  • monospaced1

    Listening to Beats 1 and a track I've never heard comes on and I'm really into it, so I come over and click the little ... next to the track and select "Show in iTunes Store." iTunes goes to the Store and shows me results for "Beats 1." Derp.

    I then try to create a radio station based on the track, and it just relaunches the Beats 1 station. Double derp. Isn't this supposed to be about exploration and cross selling? It's not even functioning.

    In the last day I've listened to music and have clicked the hearts on tracks I like, and in some places I select the star. Hearts or stars, Apple? Pick one, please, I don't even know the difference.

    On that note, why cannot I not easily find a list of tracks I have "hearted" or "starred?" If someone knows, please let me know, otherwise I'll add it as another derp.

    With the previous Apple Radio I was able to create radio stations based on individual tracks and artists, and did this once in awhile. Now, where are those? I used to be able to go into my radio stations and curate and edit them. Now I can't even find them except for a short list of Recently listened to stations, all of which I can't interact with. Total derp.

    Finally, I have an Apple TV that I have connected to my large stereo system. Why the fuck didn't they include a new Music app on that platform along with the iOS and desktop versions? Makes no sense. Full derp on this release.

  • Ben99-2

    Like i'm really happy to listen to the new album of Refused right now, and i will listen to it many time. But i dont like it enough to say "i know i will still listen it in 10 years" ... so its ok for me if i ever lose the access to it.

    On another hand, i downloaded some White Lung tracks i didnt have and i really love them, i know i will want to listen them in a few years. So i will t0rr4nt them fo' su'

    • Exterminate the brutes.jtb26
    • I can't get passed the second song on Freedomfooler
    • I'm a huge Refused fan and the new album does nothing for me at all.face_melter
  • ArmandoEstrada-1

    I think for me this is a good cross between having all my music on iTunes, streaming radio and access to listen to whatever I want. With Spotify I don't have access to my music unless I'm at the computer. Correct me if I'm wrong....

    • not only you have access to your music on multiple devices on spotify, but you can continue playing the same tune across different devices.Miguex
    • so I have access to my entire music library on my iPhone that resides on my computer?ArmandoEstrada
  • monospaced0

    Just trying out the free trial now. Beats 1 is pretty good, until the LA DJs come on. Haven't found a lot of great curated playlists though, mostly just stuff about specific artists. Hopefully the For You section gets better as I use the platform more.

    • Get busy clicking those hearts on stuff you like. It does help the recommendations quite a bit.jtb26
    • Though I really feel like after all these years of buying music and using an iPod and iPhone and iTunes that Apple really ought to know already.jtb26
  • Ben990

    Getting in was kinda complicated and unfriendly, but i'm all set now and i like Apple Music. I have to say the audio quality is super good. I'm hearing sounds i couldn't hear on some tracks i had. Wich is good.

  • Wolfboy0

    I'm glad it's free for the first three months because there are some flaws with this thing.

    I've experienced a few of the things mentioned all ready in this thread in regards to the whole thing not being as intuitive and bug free as I thought it would be.

    The one that has annoyed me was mentioned by Mono a couple of posts up where you click to make a new station from a particular track or artist and then nothing. No new station or play list. Maybe this is a hang over from the old iTunes and they'll get rid of it, but I personally would use that feature still. Or maybe this is a bug and it'll be ironed out.

    Also, they'd fucked up the listing for the very first band I searched for - Fat White Family appear twice, once with that name and once with THE Fat White Family. So their back catalogue is split between them. That is a Maps style information fuck up.

    I guess it's just bugs, but a big roll out like this should have shit like that sorted.

    Having said that, I use iTunes for my own library, I've read it'll be Sonos compatible soon and i would prefer to have one source rather for music (owned and streamed). I certainly wont be paying for two.

    I've turned off the auto-renew, so it'll all depend on how much the experience grows on me over the next three months.

  • doesnotexist0

    i disabled it.

  • Ben990

    Like i said a few posts back, getting in was really unfriendly and overly complicated for no reason. But i'm using it since 3-4 weeks now and i really like it, i've started discovering new music and i like how it work. Lots of improvement could be done and i know they will fix this and that in upcoming updates.