Automation
- Started 10 years ago
- Last post 9 years ago
- 25 Responses
- yuekit1
The paradox is that technology and capitalism keep driving towards greater and greater efficiency. But once too many people are out of work, the same economic system starts running into problems because you need reliable consumers and a stable society.
Maybe in the long run it leads to a different system where our basic needs are met and machines do all the work. But more likely in the short term a Darwinian situation where the adaptable survive and the rest go hungry.
- not really,
you just have to reduce population to let's say 500 millions then you can control them as you want, not need for an economic system, when machinesgeorgesIII - Poverty will be finally be eradicated. Capitalism wins.********
- are there to control, measure, evaluate your every movegeorgesIII
- You still need consumers to buy stuff, otherwise what's the point of having robots in the first place?yuekit
- g3, that's the docile part I mentioned.
The "mentally capable" part is about a society free of "work for living". ie free of greed, so on. We probably will nevePeter - r get there. At least not in our lifetime, or our childrens lifetime. But one can dream of Star Trek and their way of life.Peter
- Mm, it's the consumer angle that seems missing in most people's dystopian extrapolations of our jobless future...detritus
- but detritus, muh robot ovahlawdz!! :(georgesIII
- Maybe it comes to a point where people only work 2 hours a day. I have no idea. Don't listen to me.iCanHazQBN
- not really,
- ********0
- Peter0
^ out of work, because the work is done by robots.
There are no more work, and no income.And no one invests impressivly for automation
then hands out energy, water, and food for free.Except nature.
Interestingly enough, living off what nature provide is illegal in some places.
http://countercurrentnews.com/20…
- ApeRobot1
RealDoll is a company that makes realistic sex dolls and they are currently working on making the dolls even more lifelike so that they can appeal to buyers from an emotional and intellectual level as well.
- moniker0
I try and use a human checkout line whenever possible, just for the reason you mention georges. I was using the self-checkout as well, but then realized what it would mean for their jobs. Also, it never really saves me any time.
Bank Tellers are in the same boat.
- ********0
all the skilled trades will remain human for a long time. plus, you can't outsource them. double whammy
- 'All'?
I reckon 'most' or at least 'many' skilled trades are reproducible with the right machines, and perhaps an unskilled handler to move between themdetritus - too much variation. we don't have the ai to make heads or tales of the crazy shit i saw as a carpentry sub********
- 'All'?
- mekk0
The day we find a power source that is not hurting the planet, and unlimitedly available, all kind of work is getting obsolete. Because on the very base level of mankind, we work for energy.
- I give you,
*points up
THE SUN,
[clap clap clap clap]
hehehehgeorgesIII - Our planet spins at 1038mph. Surely we can harness energy from that too? Or would we need to find out how to suspend gravity?Ianbolton
- I give you,
- bklyndroobeki0
What's a pizzaiolo?
- ApeRobot0
Surface technicians (aka cleaning ladies)
- nah, that's a complex task - it'll be a while before jobs like this are rendered redundant. Christ, caretakers might well be the last viable human job..detritus
- rooomba with armsgeorgesIII
- ********0
Suicide bombers
- BattleAxe0
anyone have much experience with Automater on OSX , I really like setting up workflows , I just like the bot voices tbh and that thing just talks to me for every thing now lol plays my play lists , checks scores , etc ..
but now I want to actually try something where I take a photo and upload it to a server , anyone seen things for that
something where a workflow looks like
finder looks inside an iphone
finds photos downloads them to folder
(script *what I am looking for) -- sees it and pushes it to a ftp server
to Enter social network herei done a few with tweetPic to send one photo at a time but I want to send a lot so I imagine maybe a script (apple script? python? I am willing to pay for something like that )
here is my tweet pic work flow done in Automator
finder looks inside a iphone
finds photos downloads them to folder
deletes photos from iphone
sends them to PHOTO app
PHOTO app exports to per-written email message (to: tweetmail address) as an attachment
EMAIL APP sends message
get TEXT from text file
SPEAK IT BOING Voice (my fave) "Photo has been sent sir "
finder looks back into the folder where iphone moved the photo
send to trash
- moniker1
Web Designer ; )
- Bluejam0
reading material...
AI, Robotics and the future of jobs (67pages)
http://www.pewinternet.org/files…rest assured ...
"In 2010 researchers at the University of California, Berkeley, programmed a robot to fold a pile of towels. But it took the robot, which cost $400,000 to buy, 25 minutes a towel, with most time spent working out how to grasp it. The researchers have been working on trying to get it to do a full cycle of laundry, but many areas seem to hamper it."
- zenmasterfoo0
gynecologists
- Peter0
^ Watch that video I posted on last page.
There are already "machines" that not only understands- but also creates it.
Takes the absolute pro's to figure out that it was computer made because it was too perfect. But including imperfection shouldn't be too hard.
- Peter0
Posted it before, posting it again.
ALL jobs can be automated, including "creative".
Examples in the vid.As posed in the video the more important question is how we can prepare for the transition.
Void of any substantial research, deeper dwelling or any kind of authority on the subject I'll still give my opinion on that. Which is that an automated society probably requires docile- or mentally capable citizens. None of which really exist atm. Me replying, with that background, could serve as proof for that.
- ApeRobot0
Any dangerous work.