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- Morning_star0
Quite old but interesting, especially for those who were looking for proof of 'paranormal'.
- Yeah, "proof"hereswhatidid
- Care to explain what that means?Morning_star
- that whole thing has been widely panned as completely made uphereswhatidid
- research that stuff before you post it and expect anyone to take you seriouslyhereswhatidid
- Links please.Morning_star
- christ, do a single good search for Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research Labhereswhatidid
- do you just take all of these nonsense videos for face value?hereswhatidid
- No. How are you so certain these experiments aren't illustrating the phenomena they claim?Morning_star
- No. How are you so certain they're even remotely legit?monospaced
- What would be the point of 25yrs research? hundreds of scientists and experiments? Peer reviewed papers? if there was no anomalous results? Universities are not in the habit of pissing money up the wall on 'woo woo"Morning_star
- if there was no anomalous results? Universities are not in the habit of pissing money up the wall on 'woo woo"Morning_star
- Peer reviewed papers? Show me some please.hereswhatidid
- And absolutely none of the data from their experiments have ever been replicated elsewhere.hereswhatidid
- If people spend money on something, does that make it real? Get some goddamn critical thinking skills please.hereswhatidid
- seriously, 5 minutes of searching shows that the entire thing was funded by one rich donorhereswhatidid
- lol, dude, that's not a real universitymonospaced
- /sarcasmmonospaced
- OK, let me get this straight. You're saying that if science is funded privately it's meaningless and can be ignored?
Morning_star - no, if it's completely un-replicable and uses dubious methods to achieve it's results, it's not sciencehereswhatidid
- I was merely countering your nonsense argument that because a university paid for it, it must be realhereswhatidid
- are you really this dense or just trolling?hereswhatidid
- Look, if you want to start trading insults that's fine with me. I'd rather understand your rather dogmatic scientific position and how you are so certain there is no value in the PEAR labs evidence, for instance.Morning_star
- scientific position and how you are so certain there is no value in the PEAR labs evidence, for instance.Morning_star
- lab was running for decades, shut down in 2007, and only had a handful of shaky papers with mostly invalid claims and assumptionsmonospaced
- 'mostly' - so there was some valid results then?Morning_star
- Never replicated. What else do you need to know to be skeptical about an experiment?hereswhatidid
- Do you know what the double split experiment is?Morning_star
- double slit? yes, and it has no bearing at all on this particular case.hereswhatidid
- I beg to differ. I think it is entirely possible that observation and intent are important factors in the experiments.Morning_star
- That's not what this case is about at all. It's about shoddy pseudo science that gullible folks eat up to satiate their desire to believe in a higher power.hereswhatidid
- their desire to believe in a higher power.hereswhatidid
- You are obviously not open to the discussion of anything that questions a purely deterministic, materialist universe. You and Ken Ham have a similar attitude.Morning_star
- and Ken Ham have a similar approach.
Morning_star - I'm not open to discussing things which are impossible to verify as science. If you want to speculate, go ahead, just don't call it science.hereswhatidid
- call it science.hereswhatidid
- Actually, you and Ham are far more in common. You have no requirements for actual evidence to support your nonsense beliefs.hereswhatidid
- Ham's mind is shut, like yours. There is existing provision in Quantum Theory for this kind of phenomena. As I have pointed out, observation and intent may well have an influence on results so replication is an issue. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist.Morning_star
- out, observation and intent may well have an influence on results so replication is an issue. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist.Morning_star
- Well, you continue down that path then, I have nothing else to add to this discussion.hereswhatidid
- That's a shame, you seem to know your onions.
Morning_star
- ukit20
Scientists May Have Decoded One of the Secrets to Superconductors
http://www.wired.com/2014/05/sci…
This goal, if realized, could make an array of fantastical-sounding technologies commercially viable, from power grids that never lose energy and cheap water purification systems to magnetically levitating vehicles.
- When Tesla's proposals are thoroughly studied and applied this will become obsolete.renderedred
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- ukit20
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- GeorgesIV0
I think the quadratic galactic push is holding the lycra fabric of the space density together with a simple antistatic over substantiation.
- you WOULD say thatcannonball1978
- but where to spanx fit in?hereswhatidid
- dark matter = racistmonospaced
- I like dark chocolate best.MrT
- monospaced0
yurimon, that video you posted above in comment to ukit's post, has this description:
"Simon lays down the simple facts which obliterate several of the pillars of egghead mythematical psyence, which is owned by the energy barons, other insidious corporate war mongering sources and central banking parasites.
Quackademic theories sold in corporate controlled schools, are just mind control garbage which enslaves humanity to false ideas like explosion based technologies which burn the fuels they sell at top dollar.
These fuels have required the murder of millions of innocent people in oil baring lands, so that this illegal and degenerate godless system of control may continue as long as possible for the lying shysters who own this world.
Learn the truth and demand Free Energy Technologies"
- mythematical psytrance?ukit2
http://www.plasmacos…yurimon
- ukit20
The way I understand it Einstein's theory basically trumps Newton's. So gravity is not actually a "force" that acts directly on objects but the result of the result of mass warping the fabric of space and time. And Einstein's theory has been tested repeatedly over the past century:
http://online.wsj.com/news/artic…
Where it breaks down is on the quantum level, where things seem to behave differently. So whoever unifies quantum with Einstein's theory will add a new level of understanding to it like Einstein did.
- New theories on gravity relate more to electric universe theory,,
http://www.youtube.c…yurimon - that's basically how it's understood among the scientific communitymonospaced
- The crazy thing is that Einstein figured all of this out in an age when people were using typewritersukit2
- the power of logical mathsmonospaced
- How is abstract math logical? can there be logic abstraction?yurimon
- as abstract as it might seem, math is still logical. You only reveal your stupidity askingmonospaced
- no such thing as a stupid question however logic can be different then abstract thinking.. duh and i is different in most cases duhyurimon
- you have some logical emotions in there,...yurimon
- New theories on gravity relate more to electric universe theory,,
- yurimon0
This guy has a different idea of gravity,
- He was so full of bullshit. It is a known fact that EMR has no gravitational effect.monospaced
- Also, he offered no experiments on his theory.monospaced
- seriously, this book is basically 99% utter nonsense based on almost-no-knowledge of physical lawsmonospaced
- maybe you are right but can you prove please?yurimon
- MILLIONS of experiments have proven it wrong. I don't need to. Everybody knows it's bullshit.monospaced
- He's famous for being wrong.monospaced
- can you come to my work with the equipment and set up to prove?yurimon
- you're an idiotmonospaced
- By your logic yuri, I can claim that africa does not exist because I haven't actually seen it in person.hereswhatidid
- lol lighten up guys... you take things to serious...yurimon
- detritus0
I didn't say it was a very good thought - I just thought it was a decent thought exercise in terms of challenging first principles..
- detritus0
I had a thought a few years back —
What if gravity is actually a repulsive force, exhibited by vacuum space and somehow inhibited by mass?
What if the entire fundamentals of our perspective are completely wrong and assumed, and we don't walk on our feet and legs, holding ourselves up as we allow our hands to wave through the air - what if up is down and we are like geckos on the ceiling, hands keeping us pushed away from the mass, hands dangling in space, waving?
The models would still work, the formulas still be correct, it's just that everything is back to front?
- the bud is strong with this one, young jedi.lvl_13
- "'legs' dangling in space, waving" evendetritus
- haha, fuck off! :)
(Although yes, I have just lit up)detritus - this is logical because all things are relativemonospaced
- reminiscent of dark sucker theory
http://www.asu.edu/c…set - i like itBrokenHD
- uan0
I think we don't know what gravity exactly is. They are looking into it, but have not found an explanation yet.
There are some theories about it, namely Newton's one and Einstein's one, but no ones knows where it really comes from.But it's something we experience everyday and we can describe by mathematics, and that's how we use it.
And btw, the cat you dropped is attracted by the earth, but also the earth is attracted by the cat, it's just the difference in mass that makes it look like only the cat is attracted to the earth.
- and to keep this on-topic, it doesn't require a belief system to accept the force of gravitymonospaced
- aka, gravity is not described by anything illogical or supernatural, hence requires no faithmonospaced
- ukit20
This is a pretty good analogy:
"It's all about mass and fabric. Every single atom (and most of the sub-atomic particles that make up atoms) has mass. And by mass I mean (grossly oversimplified) the amount of "stuff" in a particle.
When a particle has lots of mass, it actually warps the "fabric" of space around it. To illustrate this, picture a freshly made bed. The sheets are tight around the mattress. That's the "fabric of space". Now, scatter a few marbles on it. If you look closely, you see that each marble dents the fabric a little bit. If you marbles are close to each other, the dent in the fabric that each makes combine and the marbles touch.
Now imagine placing a bowling ball on the bed as well. Bowling balls have a lot of "stuff" in them, so the dent it makes is much bigger! It's so big that a number of marbles are affected by the dent in the fabric, and they slide down the slope towards the bowling ball. (you can't see it, but the bowling ball slides a tiny bit towards the marbles as well)
That's basically what gravity is. Only instead of a 2-dimensional bed, it's a three dimensional bed, it pulls in every direction, not just across a plane."
- hotroddy0
I think the best way to make sense of it is mathematically. It lies beyond our everyday sense and deals with space, mass and time.
- CygnusZero40
I read about this stuff and gravity still doesnt make real sense to me. When I drop something on the ground, like my cat for example, is something pushing or pulling it down?
Whenever I read about gravity it just talks about it being a natural force. Yeah I get that, but what exactly is it??
- the attractive force that is directly proportional to a massmonospaced
- GeorgesIV0
- gravity is actually the weakest of the natural forcessarahfailin
- except when you jump out of skyscraperGeorgesIV
- http://en.wikipedia.…hereswhatidid
- haha Gmoldero
- http://www.youtube.c…yurimon
- bro, does gravity even lift?cannonball1978
- yurimon0
Im not christian but this is for the secular scientist.. :)
paging...- Shouldn't it be called the Shroud of Jesus?ukit2
- So they discovered a different way that crucifixions were performed? Not sure what you're implying, yurihereswhatidid
- I'm not implying anything. its an article.yurimon
- the shroud of turin was officially debunked in the 80sscarabin
- You're such a spineless neocon, yuri, it's incredible.hereswhatidid
- its tempting to label what you cant conceive in your mind programyurimon
- no, it's just noticing you try all the same standard neocon tricks.hereswhatidid