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- uuuuuu1
this guy makes a great point in this video using a historical example about the theories around gravity and dark matter/energy. basically he's saying gravity and dark matter/energy are merely theoretical constructs, based on false premises, with no basis in physical reality and subsequently doomed to be incorrect. He and many others are arguing for a theory of the universe based on plasma physics and electromagnetic energy.
- reanimate0
This is interesting...list of scientists who actually became creationists after studying the evidence
- Fascinating!nb
- hahascarabin
- bwahahahahESKEMA
- http://hivskeptic.fi…yurimon
- science is a tool, mate. if one person can't operate a hammer, that doesn't mean hammers are badscarabin
- people are flawed, science isn'tscarabin
- That's the same as to say that christians are pedophiles just because some cunts are.ESKEMA
- science is good people bad, but people make science so science is bad cause people are bad.?yurimon
- http://i.imgur.com/u…ESKEMA
- you missed logic class, i seescarabin
- thats what you said.. dawg.yurimon
- monospaced0
Sorry but every and all real tests on psychic powers or esp have proven it to be a hoax. Not one person has ever performed well during a real test. Ever. $1M prize still waiting.
- Its easy to dismiss if you have no experience of this in your personal lifeyurimon
- yes, incredibly, so easy it's laughable... if it were real it would be pretty importantmonospaced
- especially in the scientific communitymonospaced
- not entirely truedoesnotexist
- Morning_star0
Firstly, apologies. Care to share what you do believe?
Secondly, I've said it before but the source of the report is largely irrelevant if the evidence is available for scrutiny. It becomes very clear, very quickly - when analysing the evidence - to establish if the claims are overblown or even false.
Sagan also said: Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality. When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages, when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling, that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual. So are our emotions in the the presence of great art or music or literature, or of acts of exemplary selfless courage such as those of Mohandas Gandhi or Martin Luther King, Jr.
The notion that science and spirituality are mutually exclusive does a disservice to both.
- I never said they weren't mutually exclusive, nor do I believe they are.OP31
- Also that sagan quote goes hand in hand with what i posted before.OP31
- So what does 'magical and mystical' refer to?Morning_star
- it means awe-inspiring, as much of nature's existence seems magical despite it being rationalmonospaced
- Morning_star, you keep accusing people of being "materialists" and being close minded but it sounds like you are the one who has already made up your mind about this stuff.ukit2
- already made up your mind about this stuff.ukit2
- It's a pretty big leap from some statistical studies showing people can guess a number more often than the average (which themselves are questionable) to concluding that magic is real and the universe is made up of consciousness.ukit2
- themselves are questionable) to concluding that magic is real and the universe is made up of consciousness.ukit2
- I'm not making that leap. I'm saying that these effects and phenomena exist. And They cannot be explained by the current materialist paradigm. You on the other hand claim they can, well be my guest, the floors yours.Morning_star
- the current materialist paradigm. You on the other hand claim they can, well be my guest, the floors yours.Morning_star
- You keep saying it's been proven when it really hasn't, look at all the problems with these kinds of studies pointed out earlier.ukit2
- But even if it was real, why couldn't there be a materialist explanation? Just because something is invisible or can't be sensed by humans doesn't make it non-material.ukit2
- sensed by humans doesn't make it non-material.ukit2
- ESKEMA0
@ Georges
Regarding the vortex math thing, I said that I don't like the dudes because they bring all this religion stuff to their discovery, the name of God and whatnot, and I don't get along with those ideals. But I really think their system is on to something, and I would love that someone else would develop on that, without the god shenanigans.
You say how can we discover new things if the alternatives are shut down, we'll Rodin discovered that, so, I say we can discover things if we want to. It's more difficult without monetary support but nobody is stopping you. The scientific community is not on board with vortex math but some people are, and they are expanding on it right now. They aren't being shut down, they are just being mocked by other people, and ignored by others. But if true amazing findings based on top of their work is eventually used, then they will be accepted, because there will be evidence.
I agree that alternatives theories should get more credit, but when you are investing money, you want it to have return, and if you just give money to every alternative idea, you'll go bankrupt in no time.
- but why can't we have both?
why can't enlighten like gurdjeff should be disrespectedGeorgesIV - btw do you know how many billions of your money is spent on finding ways to kill people? last time I check was 53c to a $GeorgesIV
- you can, but if something doesn't look right to the most people, then you can't blame them for not following. ThatESKEMA
- doesn't mean he's wrong. Just that others think he's wrong. Galileo was the only one believing in the round earth..ESKEMA
- who are most people? this is where I usually start with the C.T and social engineering but I'll give up, the subject is too bigGeorgesIV
- Eskema this is actually not true, most educated people at that time knew the earth was round,GeorgesIV
- But just believing in borderline stuff like that, without proofs is the same as religion. It's faith.ESKEMA
- http://en.wikipedia.…
GeorgesIV - nope, I didn't believe a joule thief could work, so I ordered the pieces and made one for myself, why should I wait for others to confirm what I'm bringing forth, after all I don't care what anyone thinksGeorgesIV
- confirm what I'm bringing forth, after all I don't care what anyone thinksGeorgesIV
- well OK, but you get point.ESKEMA
- do you know the history of most science fields that are accepted now, but where borderline e.g: washing your handsGeorgesIV
- if there's no one to dispute and disprove those ideas, it's just the same as saying you'll go to hell if you're badGeorgesIV
- but that's just normal evolution...ESKEMA
- It has to make sense for someone to get on board of something, I wouldn't want to work on something I didn't believe in (well I kinda do, andESKEMA
- I don't like it). People will only work on those borderline projects if they are passionate about them. Passioante toESKEMA
- make them work or passionate to discredit them. And I see npthing wrong with that.ESKEMA
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... like, well I kinda do and...ESKEMA - no, I think that's where we differ, people will work on borderline ideas if there's a budget, you should look up a little bit more the scientific dogmas, often just coming out with a different theory will get you black listed,GeorgesIV
- more the scientific dogmas, often just coming out with a different theory will get you black listed,GeorgesIV
- I meant that when there is no budget, because of it being borderline, you need passion to work on it..ESKEMA
- Borderline will never have budget most of the time.ESKEMA
- except if it has military purpose, then the budget is there... sigh.GeorgesIV
- but why can't we have both?
- organicgrid0
Do you people actual believe in science?
- i pray to science before every mealmoldero
- what about before sex?organicgrid
- sarahfailin1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?fe…
i thought this was really cool, but it didn't get any love on the vid of the day thread
- sarahfailin2
Images from the Rosetta probe, now destroyed on the surface of the comet and fated to orbit the sun for millions of years. The probe took the close-ups of the comet as it was on a collision course, from a distance of about 10km. Pretty amazing that this probe took 10 years to get to the comet, and that they managed to hit the thing spot on.Neil DeGrasse Tyson said the first guy who figures out how to mine comets will be the world's first Trillionaire.
The Rosetta even managed to snap an image of the previously landed Philae lander that had lost contact with the European Space Agency previously: http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/05/eu…
- ApeRobot1
- hmmm nope,
6000yo maxGeorgesII - This is stupid and sexist. Where is Homosexual???iCanHazQBN
- And where are the white species?
I don't think I descend from any of these monkeysMaaku - Homo Antecessor looks like he can party.BK
- homo georgesicus? that's racist! but accurate.sarahfailin
- what happened at homo floresiensis? looks like we evolved back a littledrgs
- hmmm nope,
- sarahfailin1
- wtfffffsarahfailin
- Great. Hard to argue that one requires faith to believe this considering all the math and evidence.monospaced
- I saw an amazing presentation of this same finding at the planetarium in NYC. Mind blowing astro physics and all totally real.monospaced
- and all totally real and verified. Unless one simply doesn't accept the science behind it, they can't really argue against it.monospaced
- There simply isn't any greater motive behind this than finding out more about reality and our place in the universe.monospaced
- ukit20
Scientists May Have Decoded One of the Secrets to Superconductors
http://www.wired.com/2014/05/sci…
This goal, if realized, could make an array of fantastical-sounding technologies commercially viable, from power grids that never lose energy and cheap water purification systems to magnetically levitating vehicles.
- When Tesla's proposals are thoroughly studied and applied this will become obsolete.renderedred
- http://www.abc.net.a…detritus