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- scarabin0
if the ancients were somehow much smarter than we were and "had it right" this whole time their ideas of the universe would simply be established science by now. instead their ideas have been tested and vetted through the ages and the mythology slowly removed to reveal their inner truths, if any. this mythology may still be fine to use as allegory in a personal practice but if you showed up to a proper lab with it and claimed you have the answer to how the universe is put together you'd be laughed out the door. not because we've "lost the wisdom of the ancients", but because we've fucking moved on already and have no need to dwell on or overly-romanticize the stepping stones we've left behind on our path.
sure, they were on to something. they were smart humans back then just as we are today, trying to make sense of it all. but today we have a more sophisticated brain and more sophisticated tools and a more sophisticated system of symbology to work with than our ancestors did. and we've had thousands of years to observe, poke and test things since then.
throughout history we've overestimated and idealized the "wisdom" of our ancestors, simply because they came before us. it's just like QBN saying this place "was better back in the day", even though it wasn't. (in EVERY culture and subculture "the scene just isn't the same as it used to be".) the ancient romans did it, and even the ancient egyptians before them.
age does NOT equal validity or wisdom.
if you're going to insist that somehow thousands of years of observing the weather is somehow less valid than "thunder is zeus farting", tell us specifically what our forebears knew better than us instead of vague, ridiculous generalizations like "we were smarter back then" or "our brains were bigger so we had it figured out better then".
and if you're going to talk about their amazing "consciousness tools", join one of the magickal orders i've mentioned and actually learn something about those tools and what they are ACTUALLY capable of instead of bandying them about like they're the answer to anything besides internal, personal development. they are useless for shit like physics.
- I really wanted to read this, but QBN on an iPad is a nightmare.dopepope
- tl;dr: old =/= truescarabin
- sound ignant but hey you can be ignant is the new scienceyurimon
- what exactly are you disagreeing with, yuri?scarabin
- Science came out of religion. especially the religion that built the pyramids.. 2nd I think the ancient way was more wholisticyurimon
- 3rd. There dif ways to say same thing. Its only a generalization because you are not well versed or ignant to even try to figure outyurimon
- There is a possibility that our golden age was in the past. its fallacy to think these times are and the future is better, its same as romanticizing the past
yurimon - as romanticizing the past. You are an idealist acting like a realist,
http://gs1.wac.edgec…yurimon - you know what was before the ancient egyptians? the stone age. you can romanticize all you want but the facts just aren't there. yes, science comes from religion. toast comes from bread. so the fuck what? show me some facts, yuri.scarabin
- there. yes, science comes from religion. toast comes from bread. so the fuck what? show me some facts, yuri.scarabin
- There was a prior civ, before Sumerians. there are anomalies in archaeology that is not main streamyurimon
- The facts you claim you know is indoctrinated public school bulshyet. there is more to this planet then you know. so you get some facts.yurimon
- some facts. cause you might as well believe in jesus, the way you preach the party line...yurimon
- so you're suggesting the sumerians had all the answers now?scarabin
- we should drop science and follow the way of the sumerians. clearly they understood things better than thousands of years of observationscarabin
- research? i'm asking for specifics here and you are capable of providing none.scarabin
- your suggesting with your indoctrinated knowledge that this is the best there is cause this civ is at its height of mechanical technology?yurimon
- technology? Dude This info age. your chubby fingers cant hit the keys on the computer. start with lloyd pye.yurimon
- lol. i never said any of that, you're bonkers.scarabin
- its a form of question snarcoban,
yurimon - * furiously eating popcornmonospaced
- ukit20
This is pretty cool...shows the benefits of stem cell technology that we might all rely on someday :)
http://time.com/3340766/stem-cel…
Researchers at the RIKEN Center for Developmental Biology in Japan surgically transplanted a sheet of retinal pigment cells into the eye of a 70-year old woman on Friday.
The cells are the first induced pluripotent stem cells, or iPS cells, given to a human patient. They were made by Masayo Takahashi, who grew them from the patient’s own skin cells, which were treated with four genetic factors to revert back to an embryonic-like state. Takahashi then soaked the cells with the appropriate growth factors and other compounds so they developed into retinal pigment cells.
The patient was losing her sight due to macular degeneration, because her retinal pigment endothelial cells were damaged by an overgrowth of blood vessels. Replacing them with a new population of cells can restore her sight.
- scarabin0
- pawnyurimon
- powrnyurimon
- c'mon yuri, you can do it... use your wordsscarabin
- someday science may be able to teach you to speak and put on your own pantsscarabin
- that was deliberate with a touch of sarcasm, n irony.. science help him understand.. where are you science....*chirp.mp...yurimon
- okay, honey. now fetch my pipe and slippers or it's back in the gimp suit with youscarabin
- lets pretend on the internet... yayyurimon
- yurimon0
http://naturalsociety.com/gm-mic…
Mad Science: ‘Genetically Modified Micro Humans’ to be ‘Farmed’ for Drug Testing by 2017
- moldero0
oh ffs ^
VTULAROSA, N.M.—Nearly 70 years after the U.S. conducted the world's first atomic-bomb test here in the New Mexico desert, federal researchers are slated to visit the state this month to begin studying whether some residents developed cancer due to the blast.
As part of the long anticipated project, set to start Sept. 25, investigators with the National Cancer Institute will interview people who lived in the state around the time of the 1945 Trinity test and assess the effects of consuming food, milk and water that may have been contaminated by the explosion.
For years, residents of the rural, heavily Hispanic villages near the test site have claimed that a mysterious wave of cancer has swept through this dusty stretch of south-central New Mexico, decimating families and prompting calls for the government to determine whether radiation exposure played a role.
"I don't think there's a family in this community that hasn't had a loved one die of cancer," said Ray Cordova, the mayor of Tularosa, an old Spanish settlement of 3,000 people about 35 miles from the Trinity site. Mr. Cordova, a 75-year-old former magistrate judge, had a brother die of several types of cancer, and he has a son with a brain tumor.
The study will be the most detailed examination yet of the health effects of the Trinity test, which was carried out on July 16, 1945, just weeks before the U.S. used an atomic bomb for the first time on Hiroshima, Japan. Government scientists had been rushing to develop nuclear weapons in hopes of ending World War II.
The study will invariably explore the darker side of the Manhattan Project, which has played a storied role in New Mexico's economy and history. It also potentially could lead to residents' receiving compensation under a federal program for people who became ill after being exposed to radiation from nuclear testing, which currently doesn't include individuals who lived near the Trinity site.
"It's pretty clear that if you are downwind of a release of radioactive material, you have the potential to be exposed. And it's pretty clear that if you are exposed, you are at some increased risk," said Steve Simon, a government physicist who is leading the study and specializes in radiation dosages. "But to quantify it, I'm not there yet."
It is still unclear how much radiation was absorbed by New Mexicans due to fallout from the explosion, which coated backyards with ash and singed cattle. Earlier studies didn't fully consider the entire spectrum of exposure from the Trinity test. A previously unreleased draft report from the National Cancer Institute viewed by The Wall Street Journal estimated that some year old children exposed to the blast likely received large internal radiation dosages in their thyroid glands.
According to the 2008 report, the thyroid doses for a one-year-old child affected by the explosion were estimated to be about 30 times as high as what adults received. The report contains preliminary estimates based on the limited data available. Experts noted that it is difficult to reconstruct the radioactive impact of an event so long ago.
Still, a 2009 report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that because people living near the Trinity site typically consumed homegrown vegetables and local livestock products, their internal radiation dosages could have posed significant health risks.
A health physicist who was a primary researcher for the CDC report said he expected the new study to find that some people living downwind of the Trinitytest site received higher radiation dosages than those living near the Nevada site where the U.S. conducted aboveground nuclear tests in the 1950s and 1960s. Individuals who lived downwind of the Nevada site during specific time periods are eligible for federal compensation.
The physicist, Joe Shonka, said he was surprised during his research at how close residents lived to the Trinity blast—in some cases within 20 miles. Moreover, the subsistence diets of locals, including using cistern water that was likely to be heavily contaminated by the blast, made the Trinity test unique compared with other nuclear tests on U.S. soil, he said."Trinity created a lot more extensive fallout than had been encountered at other nuclear tests," he said. "There is no question the exposures for some people are going to be higher than at the Nevada test site."
Tina Cordova, shown with her mother, Rosalie, in Albuquerque, leads an advocacy group that has pushed for a federal study on cancer rates in the small rural communities around where the 1945 test took place.
The pilot phase of the National Cancer Institute study this month will focus on the diet and lifestyle of people alive during the time of the Trinity test, and include interviews with nine Hispanic and Native American residents. Researchers plan to speak with dozens more people after the study's full scope get federal approval, which is expected in the next nine months.
Dr. Simon, the study's leader, cautioned that it was unlikely to reach definitive conclusions, noting that the prevalence of cancer in the general population is already high—about 40% of people will develop cancer at some point, according to the National Cancer Institute.
For some here, though, the Institute's involvement represents at least some acknowledgment of their fears. A group called the Tularosa Basin Downwinders Consortium, co-founded by Mr. Cordova's niece, Tina, a thyroid cancer survivor, has long pushed for scientists to see if there is a link between cancer cases and the Trinity test.
In 1990, Congress passed the Radiation Exposure Compensation Act, which provides $50,000 payments to individuals who lived downwind of the Nevada test site and contracted certain cancers and other serious diseases after radiation exposure. Sen. Tom Udall (D., N.M.) has sponsored a bill to make Trinity "downwinders" eligible for the compensationprogram, but the measure has failed to advance in Congress for several years.
In Tularosa, a devoutly Catholic town where cottonwood trees line country lanes, many who were alive during the Trinity test have since died, complicating research efforts. But some can still recall the morning of July 16, 1945, including Henry Herrera. As an 11-year-old, he was outside his home saying goodbye to his father as he headed to work when he heard a thunderousboom, saw the sky flash orange and watched a massive plume drift up over the desert. Now 80, Mr. Herrera is in remission for cancer of his salivary gland. He knows many who have succumbed to cancer, including his brother and nephew, and he describes a sadness that still hangs over Tularosa. "Whole families have died here," he said. "But nobody has ever said nothing to us."
- ukit20
Chinese scientists are racing to complete plans for a supergiant particle collider that, when built, will dwarf every other accelerator on the planet.
The underground particle-smashing ring aims to be at least twice the size of the globe's current leading collider - the Large Hadron Collider (CERN) outside Geneva. With a circumference of 80 kilometres, the Chinese accelerator complex would encircle the entire island of Manhattan.
China hopes that this Circular Electron Positron Collider will shine as a symbol of the country's rise as a global superpower in terms of pure scientific research.
- Oh those wacky materialists and their trillion dollar funding. If only they knew how pointless this was. Hahahahahhaamonospaced
- world in poverty and these cunts spend billions on smashing particles together.********
- yupmoldero
- Yeah but smashing particles is coolukit2
- I was being sarcastic. that kind of $ wouldn't go to something that wasn't being taken extremely seriouslymonospaced
- Trillions is obviously sarcasm, however the LHC has cost billions so far. 13bn if I recall correctly...********
- yurimon0
- It's obvious they knew a great deal more than we give them credit for in ancient history.********
- That and civilisation is a lot, lot older than they tell us at school.********
- be careful what you consider an "advanced civilization". the romans were an advanced civilization but were barely capable of plumbing. "advanced" does not mean "more advanced than we are today".scarabin
- capable of plumbing. "advanced" does not mean "more advanced than we are today", nor does it suggest they knew anything we don't now.scarabin
- don't know now.scarabin
- humans are, and have been, a brilliant species for a long time though, a fucking lot has happened in our history we know nothing aboutscarabin
- nothing about...scarabin
- https://www.google.c…********
- yeah, that place is a tripscarabin
- btw the greek parthenon was built about a thousand years before pumapunkuscarabin
- Mainstream archeology has no idea when it was built...********
- So sorry mate but that's utter tosh********
- It's obvious they knew a great deal more than we give them credit for in ancient history.
- GeorgesII0
If science is real,
how come the smartest person in the world can't fix himself...???
- he chose quantum physics not genetics. or medical...yurimon
- be too busy out chasing tail instead of sciencing if he was normal********
- he kind of did: still thinking, writing, publishing and pushing the boundariesuan
- all his character generation points went to brainingscarabin
- My sarcastic response to rhetorical trolling question from Georges.monospaced
- So science, much braining********
- and I bet he knows himself in a parallel universe being usain bolt.uan
- ukit20
Faster, smaller, greener computers, capable of processing information up to 1,000 times faster than currently available models, could be made possible by replacing silicon with materials that can switch back and forth between different electrical states.
The present size and speed limitations of computer processors and memory could be overcome by replacing silicon with 'phase-change materials' (PCMs), which are capable of reversibly switching between two structural phases with different electrical states -- one crystalline and conducting and the other glassy and insulating -- in billionths of a second.
In these new devices, logic operations and memory are co-located, rather than separated, as they are in silicon-based computers. These materials could eventually enable processing speeds between 500 and 1,000 times faster than the current average laptop computer, while using less energy.
- Morning_star0
Brian Cox gets all vague. 'Infinity' he may as well envoke God.
- i_monk0
India reaches Mars orbit:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technolog…
