Creationist designers?
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- CanHasQBN0
Science doesn't have all the answers yet. It never claims to. We have hypotheses and best-educated guesses based what we are able to observe and test. Meanwhile, you have an old book full of fables written by peasants during a time we thought the Earth was flat.
whipp, are you disappointed that we haven't figured out everything there is to know about everything during the span of your tiny lifetime? LOL. Maybe if it wasn't for religious tyranny and the persecution of scientists, we'd be further along...
- such a joke.whhipp
- your religion? yes, it is a joke, eqyptians worshipped sun gods for 1000 years longer than your religion.aaux
- But now they're religion is considered ancient history. Just like christianity will be some day.aaux
- Science on the other hand, kinda still around and stuff.aaux
- Very true, still doesn't prove there is no God.whhipp
- If there is a god, he's a cruel piece of shit.aaux
- I respect your opinion.whhipp
- Science and religion came from the same source. which is religion.yurimon
- < yeah manmoldero
- whhipp0
So there is no scientific answer.
- nor one in the book of fablesprophetone
- Be precise, and state that you believe all books of religion are fables. Thats fine, but remember it is called faith.whhipp
- science is faith as well, we basically know nothing, accept thisprophetone
- we are all oneprophetone
- So basically in your mind, yours is a unproven theory... and creationist is an unproven theory... why the hate of it?whhipp
- i'm calm and accepting of it all, you're the one who's get'n all tic-tac'd about itprophetone
- I meant CanHasQBNwhhipp
- my bad. right on prophetonewhhipp
- ok, but you're still getting a little tic tac'y i gotta say, just throwing that one out thereprophetone
- it's all good tho, debate is fun!prophetone
- its all good. Look at CanHasQBN below, too funny. Debate is fun.whhipp
- What's funny is taking fables written 2000 years ago and using them as the basis of how we came to exist.CanHasQBN
- A modern day 1st-grader possesses more intelligence than the most intelligent person from 2000 years ago.CanHasQBN
- Stop holding these guys on such a pedestal. They were simply stupid and ignorant. There was nothing magical about that time period..CanHasQBN
- about that time period. No more magical than it is today.CanHasQBN
- whhipp0
So tell me... what is a fact in science that leads to non-creationism?
- The problem for you is, Creationism disproves itself. Eve created out of rib?...CanHasQBN
- Noah's Ark... two of each animal happily boarded onto a ship. Talking snakes...CanHasQBN
- The complete absurdity of this stuff alone disproves creationism. If you cannot recognize that book as a book of fables and talesCanHasQBN
- of fables and tales, then you need to check yourself into a mental institution.CanHasQBN
- So you have no scientific fact that disproves creationism?whhipp
- Nothing in science is fact as far as proving the origins of the universe. We have ideas and theories based on what we can observe...CanHasQBN
- observe.CanHasQBN
- How about this fact.. you can't make a person out of someone else's rib.CanHasQBN
- Snakes cannot speak to humans.CanHasQBN
- I could run facts all over creationism that disprove it... facts that don't even need testing.CanHasQBN
- And your pitiful defense would sound something like "miracles happen".CanHasQBN
- You assume too much. And you have no proof that a super natural being does not exist. So until you do keep an open mind to all possibilities or you might miss it.whhipp
- to all possibilities or you might miss it.whhipp
- And YOU don't have proof that there isn't a pair of Nike shoes orbiting Pluto right now... correct?CanHasQBN
- Therefore, based on your logic, there's a pair of Nike shoes orbiting Pluto at this moment.CanHasQBN
- ... because you can't prove me wrong.CanHasQBN
- There's also a planet out there made of plastic and looks exactly like a giant hockey puck...CanHasQBN
- ...right down to the NHL logo. Whipp, can you disprove this? No? Then my position stands that a hockey puck planet exists.CanHasQBN
- exists.CanHasQBN
- So the possible existence of a super natural being is compared to the possible existence of a pair of Nikes orbiting Pluto. Really? I would hope you know Life is a bit more spectacular than that.whhipp
- orbiting Pluto. Really? I would hope you know Life is a bit more spectacular than that.whhipp
- Right on. Believe what you want to believe. Just dont try to disprove what I believe without rock solid proof.whhipp
- AT LEAST I can prove that Nike's exist AND that Pluto exists. You can prove absolutely nothing!CanHasQBN
- Anyway the point of that was to show you how flawed you logic is. It is up to YOU to prove creationism. The onus is on YOU.CanHasQBN
- YOU.CanHasQBN
- Fun times CanHas.whhipp
- The funnest. See you in the gun thread!CanHasQBN
- lol :)moldero
- lowimpakt0
i wonder how many "post-teen converted" creationists there are?
- I wonder how many post-teens can't read after graduating high-schoolmonospaced
- I was saved in my 20s after being atheist my whole life. (i am not really a designer though)
supersimple - People that do horrible things and are told if they accept jesus all is forgiven?aaux
- No wonder everyone in Jail is now saved and reborn.CanHasQBN
- whhipp0
Why only signal out Christianity. Do you only think Christianity is full of fables.
- Typically christians are the ones pushing creationism on others?aaux
- what aauuux saidmonospaced
- I don't single out Christianity. I will attack all other religions too. It just so happens that most of the religious people on this forumCanHasQBN
- Despite what you might believe, the only religious fundamentalists in US are Christian.TheBlueOne
- But go ahead and shiver under your blanket for the imaginary Sharia law arrival.TheBlueOne
- forum are believers in Christ.CanHasQBN
- lowimpakt0
that creationism is nonsense (or not) does not disprove the presence of supranatural phenomena e.g. gods, fairies etc.
- lowimpakt0
i do wonder what other scientific understandings that creationists choose to ignore in their daily lives.
- albums0
the guy who made this
- uan0
you all should try it.
greatfully fullfilling to see grow those designs on immaculate screens.
- monospaced0
I work in fractions of 9-inch nails. It's so much easier than decimal or inches.
- yurimon0
All designers are creationists in practice at least. Other wise you would for chance to do your project for you?. thats like 1 in billion odds evolution or chaos theory would finish your project. however there is an 100% chance you would get fired!
So be a creationist and finish your damn project.- er wait for chance i mean.yurimon
- one in a billion is nothing for nothing, like is probably more like 1 in 100 billion chance against, but it only needs one.mikotondria3
- *1 in a billion is nothing for *nature, sorry...mikotondria3
- All you need is one in infinity...detritus
- Lets do a test, Pen and paper near each other and tell me when chance makes a Picasso. hola back yoyurimon
- your words are the words of a person who thinks so highly of himself, that he cannot think of a possibility that something otherCanHasQBN
- other than a "divine great being" creating him.CanHasQBN
- Who let the creationists get away with representing evolution as just being based on chance? (hint: it isn't)ribit
- detritus0
Anyone who takes Genesis literally is a moron.
I sincerely doubt whoever wrote it meant it literally either.
- gramme0
CanHasQBN: If you had actually read what I wrote, you would see that I have not, in fact, bent the Bible's words to suit my own belief. Rather, because of my respect for and deep belief in the Bible as God's word, I want very much to understand the full meaning and nuance of the words as intended in the original language.
My point is that the ancient Hebrew word for "day" in that context can and did mean different things in different contexts. Not the context of what I personally want to believe, but the context the original author intended.
If that's not crystalline, I'm a baboon.
- omg0
I am God
- CanHasQBN0
gramme... that's exactly my point. This is how weightless and baseless the Bible is. Nobody has a single clue as to how anything in it is truly intended to read, nor is anyone able to verify a single thing in it. Yet you still latch onto it for dear life as if it's contents are wholly true and accurate. It's really an odd phenomenon. You read something, you have no clue what it's true intention means, and then you make the decision that it's true. Where's the logic here?? What in your mind allows you to ignore the countless holes in the Bible so easily?
Whether it's literally 7 days or 7 trillion days makes no difference. The difference is that you have zero evidence either way. When everything in your evidence cabinet is debatable, you end up with a completely groundless position.
What about talking snakes, does that story have an alternate intention as well? By snake, did the author really mean "some talking guy"? If not, do you really believe in talking snakes? Really amazing how one can blur the lines between fable and reality so easily and believe this fairytale BS. As if in ancient times, magic used to just happen all the time and was a normal part of life... but now it doesn't occur anymore for some reason... you know, because god is pissed at us... or some other vague reason.
How can you demand such stringent standards and evidence from science, yet all of your evidence for creationism is so blatantly non-existent and fallible? Science has never claimed to have finished the puzzle. Meanwhile, you claim to have finished the puzzle, but still have the pieces scattered all over the place.
- Christianity not only doesn't solve the puzzle, it doesn't know what the pieces are.kota
- surely the point of, resultant success of the bible is due to the fact it can be interpreted any way you likeBaskerviIle
- people take what they want from it, and that's fine. As long as they don't try and push their ideas etc onto other peopleBaskerviIle
- mikotondria30
"...can and did mean different things in different contexts".
And only by using non-scriptural, modern, real-world common-sense can you decide what that context is. The context isn't given in the original documents - a word that has several meanings was used; only now do we know, empirically, that the world is older and took longer to than the 7 days to create, so only now do we look back at that ambiguous word and choose our meaning from it. For millenia the ambiguity of the word was known, but interpreted according to the knowledge of the day. ie none, and was interpreted literally.
This is a fragment of the argument that states there is nothing that once had a scientific explanation that now has a better religious explanation, but there are an ever increasing number of things that once had a religious explanation that now have a scientific explanation.
To drill down with this more finely into the creation myth: as often stated by apologists, the order of the creation was vaguely correct in that day and night preceded the separation of the land and waters, and the plants and the animals, and finally the man, however with only a small amount of scientific knowledge we can see that once the 'firmament' is created, natural, demonstrable, irrefutable laws allow for the natural development of waters, and land, and life, and the evolution of it into ever more complex forms. That is, science has peeled back the creation myth, as you say, to only the ex-nihilo moment, at which point it disappears from our ability to correctly conceptualize the question in anything other than the terse language of math. Arguing for the case against an unknown unknowable by citing that a modern contexutual translation of a Hebrew word is pretty flimsy ground, mate; whatever you philosophically believe about how the world works and was formed, you have no footing by pointing to scriptural analysis. Whether you say you believe it IS the word of your god, it's not true as it's written, so what truth is it that you claim you see ?
- kota0
just read the selfish gene
- Then Read "Evolution: The Greatest Show On Earth", by the same author. Should be compulsory for all humanz.mikotondria3
- Salarrue0
- Excellent site.
Rubbish content, but love the design.mikotondria3 - Fucking hot site. Where do I convert?CanHasQBN
- Gramme this yours?CanHasQBN
- Excellent site.
