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- nylon0
Babaganush - fair comment...
Is it worth spending $1000 on an 18 hour course with Noble Desktop in NY and do it ourselves or is this happy thinking?
- vaxorcist0
Looking at the imagery, it seems there are probably a lot of possible slight changes that could have been done any number of ways...
...babaganush's got an insight here...
for motion video, the rate depends a huge amount on the guessed-number of revisions and number of people who may suddenly have randomly different opinions.... i.e. can you make this go up in stead of down, wait, suddenly the next thing seems out of sync, can you make the next one go left instead of right, oh I see, you've setup a pattern here and client just asked for something that messed up that pattern.. do you start with a new pattern? do you try to keep the pattern but shoe-horn in the client idea? do you value continuity?
- itemize 3 rounds in your estimate and a per cost for each additional.CyBrainX
- vaxorcist0
was all the audio recorded in the same way / room / mic? if not, add $$$ for audio sweetening and trying to make the sound consistent, unless you really want it to be different....
- DaveO0
Heard a few people say how simple this looks but if i was freelancing it'd be no less than $10k for sure. "I'm not sure I like how that moves, can we change it x 10000"
- vaxorcist0
if cost is a consideration, rather than purely pleasing stakeholders and making something beautiful, I would:
1. try to make sure you start with the cleanest cut of a series of timed talking head video clips carefully edited to their exact soundbites, shot in the same studio with same mic,etc....
2. get a strong understanding of who can really decide and what their hot buttons are, what they love/fear and how to make sure they feel respected
3. make an agreement that you will do 3 versions they pick one, that's it... and you have enough time to do it in without any new stuff being added during that time
4. make an agreement that you can "invent" something if you can't get footage liscenced for that particular section in time and on budget.
good luck!
- technosoul0
it's fairly standard stuff, if you're a pro with a few years experience.
Highly unlikely you'll nail this as a novice right out of the gate though. AE takes a few weeks just to get you're head around the interface.- You'll learn much faster if you are familiar with Photoshop's layers modes, masks, adjustments and styles.CyBrainX
- vaxorcist0
client project? or a test on your own?...
- BarryEvans0
It's a bit more than just 'learning after effects' it's understanding pacing, timing, layout, typography, asset management, project workflow e.t.c.
That example piece probably went through a load of iterations to get everything to flow just right. I often get clients asking for quotes to recreate something, not understanding the amount of work that goes into building a well paced animation.
- autoflavour0
more than people would be willing to pay
- yupflyingnowhere
- More than the NFL Network? They probably pay well.CyBrainX
- autoflavour0
depends though, is the footage provided?
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Otherwise, you can write the cost of footages and charge them laterk_temp
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- d_rek0
hourly rate X time estimated/track = invoice amount minus taxes, markups, fees, etc.
- k_temp0
Doesn't look like a lot of "design," mostly editing. Seems like the most cost will come in licensing footages.
- yupmoldero
- there's a ton of frame by frame animation on that type... that's way more involved than just editingbogue
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dunmoldero - ease in... ease out...k_temp
- doesn't that describe any animation? (not trying to be a wiseass)CyBrainX
- ok maybe a little.CyBrainX
- true, but i meant editing footages rather than designing graphics and animating it.k_temp
- nylon0
Footage supplied...
- moldero0
2 g's 4 days, easy stuff.
- minimummoldero
- yeah i would have said 3-4 days.. day rate of 400 at least.. if not moreautoflavour
- depends on the local market price..autoflavour
- Talking from experience yo!™Hombre_Lobo
- nylon0
Just interested... 3 companies have come back with 3 completely and outrageous costs...
- probably not specific enough in your RFQd_rek
- whats the most expensive.. just out of curiosityautoflavour
- you get what you pay for.Douglas
- moldero0
they have overhead
- Miguex0
you won't have a standard price on something like this, there's so many factors involving budgeting a project, without even looking at the video I can tell you that 2 of the most important factors are:
1) Who is is for?
2) Who is producing the project.I'm sure my price will be pennies compared to what a big agency will ask for, someone said 2 grands 4 days, sounds like a pretty standard day rate job, if you are a freelancer. If you go to a big agency in downtown with more than 50 employees and the client is a big company, chances are that they won't even touch it for anything under 50k
- yupmoldero
- Wise words from a motion man! :)Hombre_Lobo
- I think this goes for pretty much any project not just motion ;)Miguex
- randommail0
oh brother
- Douglas0
if i were a freelancer and just animating it (footage provided), $2750
if i were a company and had to arrange the shoot, $10k+