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- monNom0
pass this along to your friend:
http://designprofessionalism.com…
- gramme0
I agree with what identity and many others have said. Until design schools are turning out students with multiple degrees in business administration, psychology, anthropology, and art history AS WELL as design, and with at least two apprenticeships – yes, apprenticeships – under their belts, then I'd tell your friend to go work for someone else until the arrogance has been beaten out of him.
- fadein110
advice
- ukit20
I would *advise them to learn proper grammar:P
- bjladams0
sorry, that meant to be titled:
design. advise.
periods seem to have been removed :-(- but all the other's are just plain wrong... this is why i do pictures, not words.bjladams
- If you cant write properly people will think you're just stupid.CygnusZero4
- Where as people think Cygnus is stupid regardlessset
- bulletfactory0
My advice would mirror yours. I think he'd have a better shot at success by working as a designer at an agency and learn the ropes.
I know I was not prepared to start a professional and profitable studio my first year out of design school.
If he's looking for honest advice, which you've provided, and is offended by your feedback, then he's not looking for advice - he's wanting his ego stroked. Fuck him and his feelings.
- yeah, it was pissed about your advice, he wont last longdewilde
- Douglas0
read some books on running a business.
hire a good experienced producer.
- Douglas0
be prepared to not have a life for a few years and work 80hr weeks.
- RustyStew0
I have to agree with your advice as well. Its very difficult to comprehend how little we know coming out of school until we have worked some in the real world. I mean shit, we just spent what, 4 years learning about this stuff and we are awesome! How could we need to learn so much more?
- Morning_star0
Dear acquaintance of bjladams,
You know nothing, you think you know everything but you don't. May i suggest you take your head out of your arse and go and 'try' to get a job. The harsh reality of commercial portfolio review is a sobering experience and one you should learn from. Even if you don't take the jobs, permanent or freelance you will have gained valuable insights into your abilities.
When you finally wake up to the truth that there are many, many like you, try to get a job at a 'good' agency and absorb every bit of experience and information you can get your hands on.
That's All
- Douglas0
I wouldn't necessarily say that starting a shop right out school is a bad thing. It works well for some people... making their own rules, learning from your mistakes, etc. If he takes a job as a junior at a design studio, he will be shielded from clients and the business of the company, thus only learning more about the production of jobs.
- sseo0
If he's not interested in your advice, suggest he read about how other studios got started. Two that immediately jump to mind:
karlssonwilker inc.
http://www.amazon.com/karlssonwi…Never Sleep
http://www.amazon.com/Never-Slee…