Julian Assange
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- 20020
sikma
Any articles based on DOJ statement about US's intent on intervention if he goes to Sweden?
- ukit20
It doesn't seem strange that they would provoke an international crisis over such minor charges?
He even offered to go to Sweden as long as they ruled out extraditing him to the U.S., and they refused.
- CALLES0
he didnt rape anyone in sweden:
"Apparently having consensual sex in Sweden without a condom is punishable by a term of imprisonment of a minimum of two years for rape."
we are all rapist!
- Is this what the case is based on?!?!?!sikma
- i think soCALLES
- Yes.TheBlueOne
- YESpr2
- sikma0
Correct me if I'm wrong but is that not currently a case in the U.K. of a young man being extradited to the U.S. for copyright infringement?
The U.S. wants Assange. Lets not kid ourselves here.
- 20020
I don't think he offered to go to sweden on that bases. He said he would go to the hearing virtually or with protection of 'right to flight'.
- ukit20
There is plenty of evidence the U.S. is trying to charge him. And look what happened to Bradley Manning, the guy who sent him the secret cables.
- 20020
Everyone is all thinking on the bases of assumptions.
Think this way. If US was to take in Assange, they would have done so when he was in house arrest with prevailing international interest under the international law. US would claim that Sweden's assertion on the matter is less important. They would also dictate the international safety on the matter.
They have not done so.
Lets talk conspiracy theory:
- Why and how did UK let him go to the embassy
- Why did Ecuador provide asylum
- Why is UK provoking such a harsh actionTo me this is a way to discredit him all way possible. Make him look like a weasel trying to escape. Trying him in US court will actually validate him.
- We all know what will happen to him if he goes to the US. Lets not be naïveqTime
- ukit20
Court Filing Details Harsh Treatment of Manning at Quantico
According to the filing, Manning was kept in a six-by-eight-foot cell for 23 to 24 hours a day and banned from lying down or even leaning against the wall when he was not sleeping.
- CALLES0
here
In 2010, a European Arrest Warrant was issued for Assange in response to a Swedish police request for questioning in relation to a sexual assault investigation. Assange voluntarily attended a police station in England on 7 December 2010, and was arrested and taken into custody. After ten days in Wandsworth prison, Assange was freed on bail with a residence requirement at Ellingham Hall in Norfolk, England, fitted with an electronic tag and ordered to report to police daily. Assange appealed a February 2011 decision by English courts to extradite him to Sweden, saying the allegations were "without basis".[223][224] On 2 November 2011 the High Court upheld the extradition decision and rejected all four grounds of appeal presented by Assange's legal representatives. Costs of £19000 were also awarded against Assange.
On 20 August 2010, Swedish police began an investigation into allegations concerning Assange's behaviour in separate sexual encounters involving two different women.[225][226] Assange has described all the sexual encounters as consensual.[227][228] The arrest warrant was canceled on 21 August 2010 by one of Stockholm's chief prosecutors, Eva Finne, as the investigation was downgraded to only cover lesser charges, and re-issued by Swedish Director of Prosecution Marianne Ny on 1 September 2010 who considered that the allegations could be classed as rape.[229] In December 2010, Assange, then in Britain, learned that the Swedish authorities had issued a European Arrest Warrant (EAW) to extradite him to Sweden for questioning.
According to published reports, the charges Sweden has lodged against Assange involve two different women. Their initial intention was reportedly to force Assange to take an HIV test. There are four charges: that on 14 August 2010 he committed "unlawful coercion" when he held complainant 1 down with his body weight in a sexual manner; that he "sexually molested" complainant 1 when he had condom-less sex with her after she insisted that he use one; that he had condom-less sex with complainant 2 on the morning of 17 August while she was asleep; and that he "deliberately molested" complainant 1 on 18 August 2010 by pressing his erect penis against her body.[230][231]doesnt sound like rape really. he saw the first one again after he "raped" her and the #2 they were already sleeping together... i dont know i wasnt there but who knows
- beautiful0
"Make him look like a weasel trying to escape."
bullshit. only his own fault if he looks like a weasel, b/c he DID escape (to embassy). betrayed trust of court who let him out on bail. escape is understandable of course, but that move was his own decision, nobody else to blame.
also, regarding weasel, assange's character defects are well documented by interviews with all kinds of independent parties. (guardian, nyt, spiegel, sympathetic private hosts from all these years, etc. etc.)
- If you believe that your very naïve. The real story is the US want punish him for WikileaksqTime
- 20020
I think you guys are being too naive.
beautiful
a high profile court decision was just announced. the person of interest is being deported. how did he get there? I would suspect that UK police were on his tail all the time. the opening was given and Assange foolishly took it.
- CALLES0
i would like to see the court proceedings
"SO did you PIITB or did not PIITB.... without a condom!?!"
- beautiful0
"I would suspect that UK police were on his tail all the time."
of course, but apparently not enough surveillance.
i don't see the benefit of this diplomatic hassle, for anybody really. character assassination definetely not worth it.
- 20020
UK needs to take a strong stance so it adds more publicity how he escaped. Why is no one asking incompetence of UK police on trailing him? No one is asking because they let it happen.
Its beyond character assassination. By discrediting him, it discredits wikileaks. He is just playing in to the game.
- ukit20
Evidence that the U.S. wants to charge him
-On December 2, 2010, two influential U.S. Senators, Democrat Dianne Feinstein and Republican Christopher Bond wrote to Attorney General Eric Holder to declare "Mr Assange's conduct is espionage . . . we urge that he be prosecuted under the Espionage Act".
-A few days later, Feinstein, head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, took out a column in the Wall Street Journal to make the same case ("Prosecute Assange Under the Espionage Act").
-On December 19, Vice President Biden called Assange a "terrorist" and suggested that his case was fundamentally different from that of a journalist receiving leaked information. "If he conspired to get these classified documents with a member of the US military that is fundamentally different than if someone drops on your lap."
-In January, 2011, the New York Times reported that the Justice Department had gone to Court to force Twitter to provide details of the account activity of several Wikileaks members, including Assange. The Times called it "the first public evidence of a criminal investigation."
-In April, 2011, U.S. news site Salon.com reported that they had obtained a copy of a subpoena issued by a Grand Jury in Alexandria, Virgina. According to the article, "the Subpoena explicitly indicates that the Grand Jury is investigating possible violations of the Espionage Act (18 U.S.C. 793)."
- ribit0
Right now Julian Assange is studying The Thomas Crown Affair in great detail.