"Your Logo Is Gross"
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- Continuity0
Hold your nose, and take the money, then, if the work has been agreed and started.
We all work with ugly shit — probably more often than with cool shit — and it didn't kill any careers.
(Especially if it gets strategically not included in our books.)
- e-wo0
- Oh. You're right, it's uglier than a jar of pickled arseholes. Still, see below.Continuity
- HEY! I made that =(zarkonite
- holy shit factoryhargbine
- doesnotexist0
choose your battles carefully.
this kind of sounds like something you should just do & get out of the way as quickly as possible. any other respectable client would've already agreed with you.
- e-wo0
Being that I've already accepted the gig and begun work, I have to find a way. Any suggestions on convincing them away from the old and reasoning the strength of the new?
- If they're not being rational or reasonable about it, then there's probably a perfectly stupid emotional reason for it.mikotondria3
- Which will be like arguing with your girlfriend, who has decided that you wanting to see a certain movie one night, and not the..mikotondria3
- his sister made the logo. and she's dead.doesnotexist
- ...one she had suggested means you think her skinnier friend is hot, and that you hate her, and her hair. And shoes.mikotondria3
- Or you hate her dead sister.
mikotondria3 - yep, dead sister.doesnotexist
- doesnotexist0
don't do any work, first off. do the above ^, and show them competitors logos (the good, successful ones).
if they don't want to, don't do the project or work with it.
but using a placeholder while laying out the site is a terrible idea. shouldn't the site reflect some kind of essence from the mark?
- dMullins0
Simply stated, "We cannot and will not work with this. Sorry, but we have a certain standard of quality here."
- Continuity0
^ That said, I think trying to give your opinion (diplomatically) and suggesting alternatives — and making sure to give very strong reasons why — is part of our professional responsibility. But, if they don't budge, don't press the point.
- Mishga0
show us your design and their logo...
- Continuity0
Shut up and put up, basically.
In my experience, clients who are Hell-bent on hanging on to shit anything — as far as their visual brand expression goes (not just logos) — go tits-up sooner rather than later anyway, because they refuse to see the value of making sure everything both looks good and makes sense.
- <-- this, with your follow-up comment. Ultimately, they will fail, but so will you if you work for clients like that.hargbine
- monospaced0
the last part
- e-wo
When true, do you say this to a client when hired to redesign the site? If so, how?
Tried to sell them on rebranding, drew up a few concepts, and they clung insistently to the old wretched logo. Yuck - certainly makes the site design process harder.
I certainly can't design to the existing logo, so should I just hold a shape in its place until the last step, wherein I hold my nose, drop it back in, and deliver?