Fucking WordPress!
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- boobs
All the fucking themes, and plug-ins, and child themes, and all the fucking dicking around to get these fuckers to do what you want!
And I could do it in 1/8th the time in HTML/CSS!
- 23kon0
Aye, wordpress is good if you find something close to what you and client are thinking for their site.
It's when you then go with a template then they start to make changes or ask for things to work different ways that you start pulling your hair oot!
- ukit20
Huh? WordPress is fine for what it is, a simple content management system. If you don't need a CMS, don't use one.
- clearThoughts0
I love Wordpress for it's simplicity... but HATE IT for it being as slow as a Turtle going uphill...
- mikotondria30
wolfcms.org
Everything you want in a cms, nothing you don't.
HTML/CSS/php/JS all up to you.
Design/code the page template, then just use simple php to get to the data that you put onto your pages, which can be children of parent pages. Reuse code as snippets, use wysiwyg editor for your pages.
Easy for clients to do their updating, open enough for you to get under the hood and code properly and easily for what they need.- < hmm so I take it you've used this before?dbloc
- yeh, all the time.mikotondria3
- 4ormat0
I suggest stop waisting your time.
Thats the main reason why we created 4ormat http://4ormat.com
- idiots0
waist not want knot?
- meffid0
You were warned.
- doesnotexist0
someone was warned, so i hear
- boobs0
It drives me crazy that I go through all the bother of building Wordpress sites for clients, and then when I get them up, they want me to do the updates anyway!
It's crazy. I explain, "Wordpress will cost you a bunch more to get up and running. But, once it's set up, you can do all your own updates."
Then, a few weeks after launch, they call back and say, "can I send my blog post to you in a Word doc, and you post it? Yeah, I don't want to get into posting stuff and messing with the website."
- <<< this! even happens when we're requested to build a custom cmstymeframe
- yep - so only work with clients who use a CMS you like to usebrandon_phillip
- And if they disagree with you, tell them you are using whatever CMS they specified. ;)brandon_phillip
- yah, i hate getting paid too. it sucks.dMullins
- I get this too! Even when they know full well how to do it, client just get's lazy. Charge for time, no problem.Nathan_Adams
- hahah, that's the truest thing in this thread, I properly loled.. I do this almost every day. Every site.mikotondria3
- pinkfloyd0
So what's the easiest way of creating your own wordpress themes?
- nosaj0
There's a slightly higher learning curve, but Drupal is awesome to work with once you're comfortable with it.
- zaq0
Stop writing WP themes like it's 1998
https://github.com/welaika/wordl…Wordless is an opinionated Wordpress plugin that dramatically speeds up and enhances your custom themes creation. Some of its features are:
A structured, organized and clean theme organization (taken directly from Rails);
Ability to create a new theme skeleton directly within the Wordpress backend interface;
Ability to write PHP code using the beautiful Haml templating system;
Ability to write CSS stylesheets using the awesome Sass syntax and the Compass framework;
Ability to write Javascript logic in Coffeescript;
A growing set of handy and documented helper functions ready to be used within your views;- Looks like the work of a backend programmer and not a front facing type.brandon_phillip
- hmmm... maybe it is back-end-oriented,wh... the learning curve for a front-ender?
vaxorcist
- vaxorcist0
@zaq, that's interesting.... looks like I'd love it or hate it....
I used to work with a guy who HATED layers of stuff on top of things as a way to solve a problem, he'd just say it's YALOA.... Yet Another Layer of Abstraction! ...
- inteliboy0
I hate the idea of qbn folk using themes for paid work. Leave that shit for cheap talentless hacks. Learning how to build your own themes aint that hard...
- raf0
I don't get child-themes frameworks, as if WP itself wasn't messed up enough.
There is so much legacy shit, someone should fork WP and drop all the historic code. But then... it's probably better to start one from scratch.This plugin here makes building custom WP pages a pleasure:
http://plugins.elliotcondon.com/…Speaking of forking, anyone using this?
http://www.fork-cms.com/
- ETM0
One of the easier CMS systems I have used in the sense of just creating a standard HTML/CSS page(s) and then dropping in tags for content areas later is CMS Made Simple.
http://www.cmsmadesimple.org/
- lifeindev0
I've been wanting to try Jekyll myself -- https://github.com/mojombo/jekyl…
- fadein110
I think this thread is more about lack of knowledge than inherent wordpress problems... please don't use bought/free themes for client work - its lazy.