solutions for the current crisis
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- clearThoughts0
Are they all Lies? What is True History?
Has history been tampered with? Yes, it has. Did events and eras such as the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, the Roman Empire, the Dark Ages, and the Renaissance, actually occur within a very different chronology from what we have been told? Yes, they certainly did. The history of humankind is both drastically shorter and dramatically different than generally presumed.
Why is it so? On one hand, it was usual custom to justify the claims to title and land by age and ancestry, and on the other the court historians knew only too well how to please their masters. The so called universal classic world history is a pack of intricate lies for all events prior to the 16th century. World history as we learn it today was entirely fabricated 16th-18th centuries. It’s likely that nobody told you before, but there is not a single piece of firm written evidence or artefact that is reliably and independently dated prior to the 11th century. Naturally, after what you have learned in school and university, you will not easily believe that the classical history of ancient Rome, Greece, Asia, Egypt, China, Japan, India etc., is manifestly false. You will not point accusing finger to the pyramids in Egypt, to the Coleseum in Rome and Great Wall of China etc., and claim, aren’t they really ancient, thousands of years ancient?
- are you suggesting that we are aliens?maikel
- he's copy/pasted the blurb from 'the new chronology' - which has very little to do with anything in this discussionkingsteven
- Hmmm, those are definitely some Not-So clearThoughts.Morning_star
- bro, I'm not claiming I wrote this at all... the truth is that we know fuck all about the real Egypt...clearThoughts
- and it is relevant because you need to know history to 'evolve' but the people in Power sinceclearThoughts
- the 8th century have been trying to make us believe this is the real deal, when it isn'tclearThoughts
- So the real deal is that we are all aliens, yes?maikel
- Fax_Benson0
Here's a workable, sensible option. The much talked about, but hitherto non-existent, mansion tax (in the UK).
Whatever your opinion on tax levels and who should be taxed what, taxing people's labour is counter-productive. Far better to increase the tax on expensive property and land. - it doesn't do or contribute anything, it merely sits there accruing private wealth. Every house in the UK valued at more than £320,000 pays the same council tax. In London, that means that a 2 bedroom flat is taxed at the same rate as a £5m mansion owned as a holiday home by a foreign billionaire.
The same principle applies to land in general. If a wealthy property developer buys some land privately, and a publicly funded infrastructure improvement hugely increases the value of the site, the benefit goes straight back to the land owner - untaxed.
It's true to an extent that taxing the rich can adversely affect their ability re-invest and become wealth creators through job creation. The reality is that many of the mega rich don't recycle their wealth - they lock it up in property and investments. (plagiarised from an artcile in The Times)
- Property and investments are recycling actually.monospaced
- depends what the investment / property is.Fax_Benson
- private property, private land ownership and returns on financial transactions are static wealthFax_Benson
- 23kon0
- when was that? 1910?clearThoughts
- yeah. thats what the prog is about. bankers used to give gifts to the poor back then!23kon
- SteveZissou0
As far as a solution goes, having politicians that act in the best interests of the people would be a good start.
To me, it always seemed insanely optimistic to expect anything other than corruption from a system that's fuelled by party donations.
- +monospaced
- I have no more hope in politicians... power hungry egocentric bullshittersclearThoughts
- ********0
see my "vote jon_d" thread.
- Projectile0
Here's one solution:
http://robinhoodtax.org/
It's a British idea, but I'm in Britain and dealing with a very similar thing here.^ Fax's solution's pretty good too. But, if we do anything too drastic a lot of people will take their money elsewhere. So basically introduce a few new taxes exclusive to the rich, and basically force them to spend the money, even if it's on fast cars and hookers, instead of hoarding and just taking more from us. And yes, high value property. If you own more than two regular properties, THEN it should be difficult and taxed, and get harder the more you have. Yes it'll give less incentive to work hard- but at such a high level, who cares?
But more than anything, tax evasion should be a lot harder and more punishable. Stockbrokers who take massive risks with the economy should be punished for the risk, not just when they lose the gamble!
Basically, pure capitalism doesn't work. There needs to be some sort of fairness and regulation, it really is that simple. Taking a page or two out of the communism book doesn't mean swapping books. That's one thing that annoys me about the Occupy movement, as much as I support it, a lot of them want socialism and even anarchy, which is just a stupid knee-jerk reaction as comes across as simple jealousy.
- What do yo need more tax money for? They'll find a way to spend it in their own shops, e.g. buy more missiles.raf
- maikel0
^ on that, my only comment is that if it is not agreed globally, when high taxes kick in, well advised, educated and earned people will settle in the next convenient country and would call it a day.
Britain is on the investment map because it is relatively tax cheap and relaxed in comparison with similarly so-called safe economies...
- isn't it only the UK, of major Euro countries, that aren't behind it?Fax_Benson
- SteveJobs0
set everything back to zero. clear everyone's debt, and significantly lower the taxes corporations pay and allot banks money to loan as startup capital so everyone can go to work for themselves. also make economics and business classes a standard in highschool cirriculum.
- clearThoughts0
What we are ignoring here, is that the people who we own this money to... (Morgans, Rockefellers, etc... ) don't give a fuck about the US.
Nor about China... from their point of view, the whole world is in debt with them and they would rather sit in a satellite in space watching us work for them rather than clear the debt.
And in fact, they are pretty obsessed with going up to Space.
- 23kon0
I'm sure the banking problems will all be sorted out after World War III between China and USA.
:)
- Guess who would finance these wars?clearThoughts
- Do you know who financed both Hitler and the Allies?clearThoughts
- The Pope helped Nazi's to clean up their messes ....23kon
- ... in exchange for gold and paintings he gave them new addresses.23kon
- ( "Reverend Black Grape" - Black Grape )23kon
- 23kon0
ClearThoughts .....
If Jesus never existed then why are you referring to years as 11th/16th/18th Century?
:P
- I am not saying it never existed... but there's about 3 different versions of the story...clearThoughts
- I don't think Jesus existed, yet I still use the calendar that everyone else uses. I also like Christmas. So fuck you.monospaced
- Hehehe. Make up your own year Zero. My year zero is 1944(christian calendar)23kon
- its when Nutella was invented :)23kon
- chillout dude... I never said your Jesus never existed. If you believe in him, it surely exhistsclearThoughts
- vaxorcist0
1. microscopic tax on nanosecond trading...
i.e. .001% on stock trades that are traded again with 2 days.
(all this nanosecond trading does is to make the market more volatile, and multiply the commissions of banks, and pay the salaries of math whizzes who SHOULD be inventing alternative energy sources, but are busy manipulating the stock market because they have to pay back their student loans.. I know 2 guys who do this shit, they're both brilliant... they should have been physicists instead of stock market math whizzes)2. impartial redistricting of congressional seats, so that we don't have situations where a district is full of same-believers and the congressman/woman never has any viable opposition except from the extremes, where they have to keep becoming more and more ideological, not less.....
3. Repeal "citizens united" the supreme court decision that allows essentially untrackable and unlimited spending by outside groups such as the way the Koch brothers are funding the Tea Party without many people knowing what's really happening.
4.Figure out how to prevent the Republicans from playing "heads - I win, Tails - you lose" ... i.e. their strategists probably actually agree that Obama's job creation plans may work, so they do everything they can to stop them in order to keep unemployment high and make sure he loses the next election... it's an odd vote of confidence most people don't get....
- clearThoughts0
We NEO to go in and fucking kill all these ugly bankers and politicians... fucking SCUM.
- monospaced0
clearThoughts is turning into numbers guy
- clearThoughts0
I'm a peaceful bro...
- autoflavour0
the easiest way to resolve the current crisis is to invent a new crisis..
alternatively if we ban the use of numbers.. all our money worries would go away..
"ohhhhh, the US debt is $ 14,710,000,000,000....."
you would just arrest them for saying a number, and voila. problem solved.
- qoob0
Put this robot in power
