RIP Mobile Flash
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- jadrian_uk0
rip (because i care)
- mightyj0
also the gaming track for flash 11 with stage 3d looks promising:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flas…
- mightyj0
good info from adobe:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flas…
- mikotondria30
MM... It shouldn't really be beyond any of us to be able to rattle off some OO script, but also have strong animation skills. Our working lives are straddled between the stark left-brain reality of packets and ports and electrons and 1s and zeros at one end, and people unaware of this process going 'oooh, that's cool', or 'ah, thats just what I need, that suits my need' at the other. We translate client experience into minute voltages which we encode and launch onto a network. We all need at least a basic understanding of the whole process. There's no reason to abandon the concept of the all-rounder who calls on non-all-rounders to knock out specialist sections of this process.
- mikotondria30
MM... It shouldn't really be beyond any of us to be able to rattle off some OO script, but also have strong animation skills. Our working lives are straddled between the stark left-brain reality of packets and ports and electrons and 1s and zeros at one end, and people unaware of this process going 'oooh, that's cool', or 'ah, thats just what I need, that suits my need' at the other. We translate client experience into minute voltages which we encode and launch onto a network. We all need at least a basic understanding of the whole process. There's no reason to abandon the concept of the all-rounder who calls on non-all-rounders to knock out specialist sections of this process.
- vaxorcist0
I agree in a way..... the kludge-if-ication of flash over time was huge, then the de-kludge-ing attempts were odd, resulting in this oddbal hybrid.....
we began to call the scripting language "ActionScrapped" at one gig during the AS2 to AS3 transition, as we had to throw out so much code....
trying to be all things to different developer mindsets and animator mindsets is a recipe for oddball-ness....
I miss the simplicity of early flash....
but I don't miss trying to make animations in java applets(!)
- twokids0
personally i cannot wait for flash to die. it has always been a terrible animation program with lots of kludgy ways to do things - however because of its stature I was forced to use it for years and years. I think animation belongs to the motion design toolsets and coding can be done by coders. better that way.
- vaxorcist0
There are tons of shitty ads out there, and tons of shitty flash out there.. and some other technologywill replace it someday....
why cares.....
there are tons of shitty threads about flash is dead or flash forever on QBN.... and some other bees-to-honey thread topic will replace this topic someday.....
someday....
- fyoucher10
Re: animatedgif @ banners
No one likes TV commercials, but channels still have them. Why? Because they pay the bills. Clients want them. Same idea behind banner ads. Plain and simple. Advertising. And the online advertising industry is a massive $30 billion dollar a year industry ($12 Billion probably just with the different types of banner ads -- video, rich media, standard, not including the rest of online advertising) and will probably double in a few years. Do you think building websites is that big? Not even close. Obviously, most users of the web don't want ads in their content but most of that content isn't going to exist unless something is getting paid to create it. And a lot of that generated revenue is coming from online advertising. Anything that increases sales for that matter.
@ no one clicks on them:
Getting folks to click on ads would be great but that's not entirely the purpose of them. They also serve to deliver a message or reinforce a brand, or experience.Yeah, there's a ton of shitty ads out there. But there's also quite a bit of good ones. Go to Bannerblog. Lots of great ones there.
Not sure what kinds of ads you've created but I personally have a lot of fun creating ads. They're fun simple quick projects.
To continue on with how this relates to Flash...if it's not going to be done with Flash, it'll be done with a different technology. Do you think anything will be different than how it is today.
- instrmntl0
Hahaha, man I really write stupid shit when I'm drunk at 3am. Apologies to all.
- haha, it's cool. I write it when I'm sober in the day, so you've got that on me....mikotondria3
- :Deficks
- ORAZAL0
Flash killed the animated gif
- obsolete0
come on....
jobs is dead.... flash is dead.... the internets is deads...
who cares!
flash can export for the ios thingy...
the future will see the demise of the browser... everyone will have "pre-approved" applications....
I guess that it is the path that Jobs paved!
You won't be able to "surf" the web.... I guess that I see a new kind of censorship coming.... the internet won't be a free place anymore!
or am I being a pessimist?
- inteliboy0
I fail to see why anyone could argue a plugin is a good thing to have on the web.
- animatedgif0
"Take for example banners. How much easyier is it to animate a banner or simple tasks in flash than javascript"
Does the world need animated banners?
They're fucking boring to design,
boring to build,
expensive,
annoying to users,
waste of battery,
easy to block completely,
and no one fucking clicks on them.
Kill them the fuck off, get rid, and get rid of all the ridiculous industry and NON-JOBS of talentless fucks behind them, traffic managers, project managers and other cunts who sell those rectangular turds, kill it all the fuck off.Have better content on your site and sell tasteful static ads, your users will fucking thank you for it.
- ernexbcn0
@instrmntl if you truly had an understanding about the web, advertising and the conundrum you'd know that cramming the bloated Flash Player plugin into a mobile device like an smartphone was a dead end road, it was 5 years ago and still is.
You'd also know this doesn't affect your industry at all, nobody cared about Flash in a smartphone or at least it hasn't hampered the development of other stuff for mobile devices so far, be it native apps or mobile adapted sites.
- chrisRG0
the best thing about all these threads: (thanks @fadein11)
"fuck these endless team battles... pc vs mac, html5 vs flash, ios vs android - tedious unproductive bullsh"seriously, when brands became religion something is really wrong!!
- instrmntl0
I know we all know about devices, thats great. you have an iphone, a mac, know about design, and maybe know about campaigns. are you working for clients? are you trying to push technology in your job? are you faced with deadlines and real usability issues? i'm not just speaking about the web, which most of you are. if you don't understand, then just shut the fuck up. I love QBN but honestly you all sound like fucking idiots.
- so with 3 comments you also managed to say nothing. well done.eficks
- instrmntl0
most of the comments here are really regurgitated. If you truly had an understanding about the web, advertising, and the conundrum, then you wouldn't be saying 80% of the stupid shit I've just read.