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- ThePublics0
Americans need man up and throw down some proper fuck-off riots.
- popfodders0
On August 28, 1991, the jury, composed of seven blacks and five whites, took under two hours to find Davis guilty on one count of murder and the other offenses.
- Based on testimony from eyewitnesses, three-quarters of whom recantedlocustsloth
- easy to recant now, they had their shot, too bad it doesn't work that way.popfodders
- Good thing for you, JazX, that this website is a compendium of reasons to get out of jury duty.locustsloth
- You'll never get to inflict your opinion on whether someone lives or dieslocustsloth
- CygnusZero40
Uh. if a bunch of witnesses who have never met each other finger him as the guy that did it, and he is found guilty, then sorry, time to die asshole.
You can't just change your mind later and say, "Oh shit, they are going to kill him? Wait, I'm not sure it was him now."
Sorry, it was the right thing to execute this guy. Too many people put him at the scene. You don't get to just recant that later. Trial is over idiots.
- There have been affidavits filed that say the police pressured the witnesses to point the finger at Troy Davis.WrappedInBooks
- Oh so you're saying there is actual hard evidence of that happening?CygnusZero4
- it would be just as "hard" as their original storiesTheMagicSheep
- yes all of them had said this throughout the years.Ramanisky2
- that's their fault, should have been smarter at the trial.popfodders
- CygnusZero40
So when a dude shoots a cop across the street from a burger king and some people see this happen and say it was him, there is reason to believe it's not him? Interesting.
Oh yeah, and....
"ballistic evidence presented at trial linked bullets recovered at or near the scene to those at another shooting in which Davis was also charged"Yeah, this guy sounds real innocent to me.
Dont tell me this guy was a innocent.
- Justtice was done. Cry all you want about it now.CygnusZero4
- indeedpopfodders
- Ramanisky20
Another man confessed. Seven eyewitnesses recanted. Police accused of coercing witnesses. No DNA. No murder weapon. Justice?
- You cant fucking recant after the trial is over!! You already said under oath he did it. End of story. Insert death syrum.CygnusZero4
- yes you can assdick!!Ramanisky2
- No you can't you fucking idiot Ramisnky, it's protocol, a system, too hard for you to understand eh?popfodders
- No, you cannot. He is dead today for a good reason, because you dont get to change your mind, genius.CygnusZero4
- It apparently is too hard for himto understand. The idea of a justice system eludes him.CygnusZero4
- popfodders0
^Yes, I completely agree. I don't fucking get it at all, all this evidence points toward Davis and he was convicted by a large margin.
And as for you hypocrites crying foul about the death penalty in the USA, specifically Texas, I don't see you crying about this guy: http://articles.cnn.com/2011-09-…
I suppose "justice was served" here. But please, feel free to explain to me how one case is different from the other. Fucking BS!
- ^^ I meantpopfodders
- one is different from the other because it is different from the other. Fucking hellrod.Fax_Benson
- An innocent man was killed in both cases. Maybe you werent aware of that.CygnusZero4
- That's the similarity. Well spotted. What about the differences?Fax_Benson
- They're the things that make one thing not the same as another thing.Fax_Benson
- There is none. Men were convicted in both cases.CygnusZero4
- omg you're a giant HemorrhoidRamanisky2
- no, I am bringing up the point of all you fucking crybabies over the death penalty. Eye for an eye.popfodders
- I was referring to the ultimate death penalty dealt out. I'm pretty sure everyone at QBN is happy that guy got the chairpopfodders
- No. I'll take him living and no death penalty any day. You're not allowed to premeditatively kill people who are no immediate...mikotondria3
- ..threat to yours or someone else's life. Strapping someone down and injecting them with poison to kill them IS MURDER.mikotondria3
- And as such, according to your viewpoint, the executioners should also be killed, etc etc etc until there's just me left.
Tough titties for you lot.mikotondria3 - I think Popfodder you are WAY in the minority on QBN...babaganush
- JackRyan0
Why do we kill people, who kill people, to teach that killing people is wrong?
- An eye for an eye. I'm a strong believer of it. You kill an innocent person, we will kill you back.CygnusZero4
- And I dont like my tax dollars being spent to keep these assholes alive in prison for their entire lives.CygnusZero4
- I don't know but let's kill the official that killed troy davis that killed that copset
- an eye for an eye eh? Then I suppose the US in for one hell of a reckoning.ThePublics
- Do each of the jurors get one twelfth of an eye taken out?locustsloth
- people aren't afraid of prison anymore...it's too easy.dbloc
- I dunno, Im pretty scared of prison. But then again, I'm not a murderer.DRIFTMONKEY
- ....yet....DRIFTMONKEY
- for the record. I'm scared of prison too.dbloc
- btw, dumbshit, it's a whole lot more expensive to put someone on death row,randommail
- couldn't agree more Cypopfodders
- lowimpakt0
"An eye for an eye. I'm a strong believer of it. "
oh dear.
we may as well roll back society a few thousands years and let the religious fundamentalists take over.
- Ohhhh really, so if I went and killed your mother, you would pardon me and grant me freedom? FUCK YOUpopfodders
- Oh because of course that's the only other option, isn't it ? Learn to think in subtler ways, this is important shit now. Come on.mikotondria3
- this just in. "lowimpakt of Ireland's mother was killed by some sick fucks, but he's ok with granting them pardons based upon a coppopfodders
- screwing up the evidence or a jury, becoming liberal 10 years later". FUCK OFFpopfodders
- WrappedInBooks0
My main problem with this whole thing is that he basically died yesterday because of inability to file a writ of habeas corpus. There's a one year statute of limitations on successive habeas petitions. After that point the federal government's hand are essentially tied, which is messed up because it's in the purview of the government to uphold the constitution. This suspension of habeas was introduced in legislation in 1996 (Pub. L. No. 104-132) - and is tied in to the 'global war on terrorism'.
- randommail0
After decades of moral arguments reaching biblical proportions, after long, twisted journeys to the nation's highest court and back, the death penalty may be abandoned by several states for a reason having nothing to do with right or wrong:
Money.
Turns out, it is cheaper to imprison killers for life than to execute them, according to a series of recent surveys. Tens of millions of dollars cheaper, politicians are learning, during a tumbling recession when nearly every state faces job cuts and massive deficits.
So an increasing number of them are considering abolishing capital punishment in favor of life imprisonment, not on principle but out of financial necessity.
"It's 10 times more expensive to kill them than to keep them alive," though most Americans believe the opposite, said Donald McCartin, a former California jurist known as "The Hanging Judge of Orange County" for sending nine men to death row.
Deep into retirement, he lost his faith in an eye for an eye and now speaks against it. What changed a mind so set on the ultimate punishment?
- jon_d0
this aint none of my business
- bliznutty0
the system and all it offers never really was moral... hell look at the war on drugs, what a moral fallacy! - when idiots assume the system is moral and assume the people that run it are angels - the immortality is spread like wildfire and implanted within children's souls - people end up with a contradicting nature about them and never want to challenge the state because it is too controversial and would highlight the immoral truth within.. modern-day war is another example..
- randommail0
REVENGE.
Americans love it. So do the Chinese.
- And I'm half and half! FML.randommail
- im half US. and FML when i read the comments on here.isakosmo
- isakosmo0
woke up depressed about seeing the news, but some of the comments on here are making it even harder to think of anything positive. Its horrible how ignorance, arrogance and aggression go hand in hand
- <babaganush
- seriously. this is just a bad scene all around. Really making me take a long think about it all.shellie
- Nice emo post brah. Go cry in a fucking corner you baby. A bunch of people said they saw him do it. Later fucker.CygnusZero4
- i pity you, and everyone like you.isakosmo
- and for the record i'm a girl, and definitely not your 'brah' in any way.isakosmo
- shellie0
Last night was so gross. Certain coverage, the whole process leading up to it, and all the emotion slathered over such a polarizing subject really shook me up. I feel absolutely awful for everyone, especially both families. Yesterday had to be the absolute worst with all the jerking around.
I can say I seriously haven't thought about the death penalty since I was a teenager or maybe even younger. I'm not sure that, no matter what transgression was made against me, that I would take any pleasure or peace to see or have a hand in extinguishing another life when I really think about it. It would weigh far too much on the rest of my life. I can't really make sense of the fact that some criminals that have done worse are still alive and will never see the inside of a death chamber. But, someone who catches the whim of a DA that make a career case or soothe the public need for retribution can see the unfortunate end of a giant system that comes off as more credible than the person at trial. It doesn't seem like a fair practice when the cards stack against you like that. But that's just me.
- yes, but that doesn't change the protocol of the conviction process. Especially when the Supreme Court didn'tpopfodders
- intervene, when they looked it over themselves. What does that tell you?popfodders
- I get your point about the human side of it. Of course, not, but rules are rules. No need to bitch about it.popfodders
- humane, sorrypopfodders
- Rules are made to be broken @popfodders. If we never challenged the rules, I'd be breaking so many right now.shellie
- not some rules.popfodders
- so many... really fuckin stupid rules. you're talking to a black person right here. I know this.shellie
- there was once a time i'd be arrested in most states for dating the people I wanted to date or be married to...shellie
- and situations that seem unconstitutional in my life experience i should question and challenge.shellie
- Ramanisky20
- Both convicted by a jury and sentenced to death. Yep, I see it fucking clearly.popfodders
- one is wearing glassessigg
- that was a joke, don't ask me why Crowe got off, he deserves the same fucking fate!popfodders
- Ramanisky20
is it a wonder this case has gone global...
Troy Davis may be dead, but his execution Thursday in the American state of Georgia has made him the poster boy for the global movement to end the death penalty.
World figures, including Pope Benedict XVI and former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, human groups and commentators urged the execution to be halted -- but to no avail. On Wednesday Davis was put to death by lethal injection for the 1989 killing of off-duty police officer Mark MacPhail despite doubts being raised over the conviction.
The execution sparked angry reactions and protests in European capitals -- as well as outrage on social media. "We strongly deplore that the numerous appeals for clemency were not heeded," the French foreign ministry said.
"There are still serious doubts about his guilt," said Germany's junior minister for human rights Markus Loening. "An execution is irreversible -- a judicial error can never be repaired."- Eye for an Eye! I'm not sure which scripture Pope Benedict XVI is reading or rather forgot.popfodders
- CygnusZero40
This whole thing doesnt seem to have a lot to do with whether he really did it or not. It just comes down to whether the death pentalty is right or wrong, thats all it is. Witnesses said he did it, I dont give it a shit if they feel like changing their minds later, trial is over assholes. You already sentenced him to death. Case closed. The guy was a known criminal, and had already fucking shot someone before this! He wasnt some upstanding citizen, he was already a scumbag before this happened.
If a bunch of people put him at the scene, I have no problems with putting him to death. All this bullshit about them being forced to say they saw this guy there, uh, what the fuck would force them to say that if they really didn't? Common sense here. These were innocent civilians that came forward as witnesses in the first fucking place. What were the cops going to buttrape them if they didnt say they saw this guy? Come on now.
It just comes down to a bunch of whining bitches crying about the death penalty yet again. You want to go kill a cop, well you dont get to sit in prison with your TV, magazines, library, gym and other fine activities, sorry. Big fan of the death penalty.
- that's just, like, your opinion, man. And it's a fucking horrible one. Still, popfodders agrees with you..Fax_Benson
- WWJD?duck3
- I agree with him, because he's fucking right, use your fucking brain, not your heart.popfodders
- popfodders0
You can’t eat your cake and have it too. That BS about cops threatening witness is a bunch of, after the fact, crap. Seriously, it is absolutely a bunch of people crying about it. Use your fucking head, not your heart. As far as that guy above, Samuel Crowe, goes he deserves the same thing, there needn't be a hypocrisy behind the rule. Maybe killing a cop looks a lot worse, but it's still the same concept. Eye for an eye.
Plus, the state of Georgia would never spend the money on retrying the guy. Talk about a waste of money. Evidence is evidence. There, call me what you will.
- Supreme Court took a look at it, realized the guy was guilty and said "No Fucking Way!"popfodders
