Interactive Development
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- Boz
Great post from Lee about interactive development
- Continuity0
I've always liked Brimelow. If it weren't for him, I'd have got nowhere with AS2.
- utopian0
Since Apple killed Flash two years ago...
I have only designed (1) Flash based website this year. The year before that, at least (12) Flash based websites. Not only is there anyone requesting Flash based portfolios and or websites, they are demanding me NOT to use Flash at all.
Flash is dead is bro, sad but true...
- Continuity0
@utopian:
Have to disagree with you. We're kicking off a marketing microsite/brand experience site project at work, and the decision was made to go Flash again for a few reasons:
1) Dev time. From what we've been able to dig up, going the AS3 route – as opposed to HTML5/CSS3/JS – will mean we'll be able to turn this thing around on time;
2) Demand. Looking at the stats for the whole life cycle of the last microsite we did, hits my non-Flash capable devices was in the low single digits. Not anywhere near close a number where I would recommend ditching Flash.
3) Compatibility. As long as not all browsers on all platforms aren't fully supporting HTML5/CSS3 – or, at least _mostly_ supporting them – I'm not going anywhere near it. Flash is still the cross-platform/browser king.
- Boz0
nah utopian.. don't worry about it. It's just shifting to better things and the crap stuff and simplest things will now be done with JS/JQuery/CSS3.
It is true though that less experience Flash devs might find themselves without work because a lot of simpler things (on a level of Flash 7 and Flash 8) is now possible with JQuery/CSS/JS/HTML5. So that's why you might see simpler sites with not a lot of heavy animation or whatever use JQuery/HTML/CSS (not even HTML5 really) instead of Flash.
THat's normal really because finally after 15 years HTML/JS/CSS is not shit. It's still a mess though when you have to write ton of shit to make it work and look half decent on other browsers.
I"ll give you an example. Just today, I'm showing to a new site for Fox I did and their new show. All HTML/CSS/JS/JQuery and their WHOLE FUCKING OFFICE is using IE8 and they don't see rounded corners in CSS.
So my first request is to make images and do rounded corners that way so they are compatible with IE7,IE8.
WHo's going to pay for that time? In Flash for example, I never had those problems. BUt I guess it's ok, younger folks can do that shit because they can charge $500 and then spend 3 weeks dealing with compatibilities among browsers.
Flash is shifting it's purpose. It's doing things that it's REALLY good at. Real cross-platform, animated, mixed video, multi-channel applications and games that would be insanity to build in HTML/CSS/JS.
The future is clear. Flash is going on a higher plane, games, entertainment, apps, more complex video while HTML5/JS/JQuery/CSS3 will eventually replace smaller animations, photo galleries and bunch of other smaller stuff. Finally.
It is definitely a good idea to learn and keep up with JQuery, HTML5 and all that not because it will kill Flash but because it will work WITH Flash and you will be a much better developer and designer if you know everything. And it's not that hard to learn too.
- Finally a Boz post with no hate AND it makes sense!Amicus
- hate for what? I never said I hated HTML5/JS/JQuery at all. I like it. It's just that Flash is also excellent and more advanced in many ways to JS/CSS even with Canvas.Boz
- many ways to JS/CSS even with Canvas. I just get riled up with bullshit rhetoric how one has to kill the other because Steve Jobs said so.Boz
- Steve Jobs said so. Especially when HTML5 and Flash are supplemental and not exclusive technologies.Boz
- google dd roundies boz, easiest way to make round cornersattentionspan
- monNom0
from the way he makes it sound in that article, flash is going to become what client-side java has been for the last 10 years... but it seems like java is far ahead of flash from a performance/capability POV.
and what the heck happens to silverlight? is that even around anymore?
- omg0
Lee Brimlow is a little late with his statement that Interactive doesn't mean Flash. When did he determine this? When all the mobile apps started appearing 2.5 years ago? Today, he has his epiphany?
I wonder if he holds any biases as a developer working over at Adobe. His posting insinuates that HTML5 and the many libraries it supports can do the simple tasks that Flash used to do, but he fails to mention that HTML5 also does the advanced things that Flash hopes and plans to do. Why would someone from ADOBE fail to mention that?
The idea that Flash does not support any other scripting language, other than its own, makes Flash a weak solution for advancement in better interactive products. If you plan on designing software with Flash, hopefully your client is Adobe.
- dude please STFU you have no clue about anything you are talking about. You are repeating shit you overheard somewhere and you don't even understand half of it at best. Just let it go.Boz
- somewhere and you don't even understand half of it at best. Just let it go.Boz
- Boz, you think you're smart... but those are just your thoughtsomg
- Yes, I overheard Lee Brimlow talk shit in his own posting. *smack*omg