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- d0mino
ok so i upgraded to the latest ecommerce plug in and now it's all gone fucked.
that is all.
- raf0
People think by using specialised plugins they're safe from surprises. Truth is, the more complicated plugin, the more likely something goes wrong at some point...
- fadein110
don't use that plugin - its awful!
- Nathan_Adams0
I find Shopp much easier to use than wp-ecommerce. It certainly doesn't "blow".
- My experience with Shopp is that it is a house of cards.melq
- Boz0
Yes.. For small/medium sites wp can be appropriate solution. Recently I had to do a few sites and the real benefit to me was that wp has a great cms side that's simple enough for clients to learn and update content. WP is easy to use in code too so making custom design and using wp loop is fairly straightforward. You can't go crazy with design because there is a limit on usefulness of wp but for about 60-70% of sites it will work just fine.
Bigger problem with wp and 3rd party plugins is security. The client needs to be on top of updating wp and plugins and if they don't (which a lot of them don't or forget) it can be a serious issue.
- The security thing would be my top reason for not recommending WP, frankly.Continuity
- security is fine if you take some simple but important stepsfadein11
- I think the VaultPress service can keep your install up to date automatically now.Nathan_Adams
- jadrian_uk0
Roll your own™
- raf0
I am leaning towards using specialized external shopping carts with WP, even if it's PayPal. I'll be testing e-junkie cart soon.
- Jaline0
Wordpress is fine if you're using it for a smaller site or a blog. The problems start piling up when you use more plugins (especially complicated ones like WP E-Commerce). Make sure you read the reviews before using anything. The reviews for WP E-Commerce are less than satisfactory, and people go into detail about how buggy it is. There are other solutions for WP, like Shopp and Duka Press, which I really like, but overall go with an outside solution if you expect to have a lot of traffic. Recently a client's site got hacked into multiple times, and the shop was causing all kinds of problems. Compatibility issues and bugs.
- fadein110
Yep - I did a shop using a wordpress plugin by templatix - it was great apart from payment options...
From now on I will keep the shop separate using something like tomatocart...
Wordpress is great for my small to midrange clients - had no problems in 3 years.
Security isn't a problem if you take the recommended and simple steps.
- recommending Dupral or Joomla is retarded for a smallish sitefadein11
- vaxorcist0
all ranting aside... has anyone seen a nice procedure of how to go about debugging and fixing broken shit that happens when your WP plugins and upgrades go messy?
I keep roll-backs and roll back, I'm sure there's a better way than just waiting for the plug-in's author to fix shit....
Yes, I've only used WP on a couple of small sites, that's what it's good for, one of my clients is on WP-Ecommerce but they haven't upgraded.. thanks for the warning...
- Jaline0
Give Concrete5 + their e-commerce plugin a try. I quite like it.
- Is the plug-in secure, though?Continuity
- no idea. no issues yetJaline
- The more I use C5 the less I think about other options... Never tried the e-commerce though.ESKEMA
- manonthestreet0
One should have a test site to mirror all 'upgrades' on
- Boz0
I don't deal with e-commerce that much but isn't Magento the hottest shit right now?
- Try skinning it. Fuck that noise.meffid
- only if you've got a handful of actual users and a HUGELY strong server....vaxorcist
- Do the design and outsource the skinning. It's usually cheaper to outsource that shiz anyways.Pumpkin_baby
- All I can say is, you get what you pay for (re: outsourcing)Continuity
- 3030
What I see is that some people are trying to do with WP more that it is supposed to do (by using some strange plugins). It is like converting a car to a tank. At some stage, it cannot end well.
I think that mixed solutions are far better than WP + some e-commerce stuff, for instance WP+big cartel. Simple separations of concerns.
- Centigrade0
I built using WPEC. It was a bit of a patchwork quilt but I've got it working fine now...
except for coupons...
the thing goes nuts when you try use coupons.
- nocomply0
If you think WordPress sucks, you're doing it wrong! WP is amazing, but like 303 said it's meant for a certain purpose, which is not necessarily eCommerce.
With my clients that do desire eCommerce with all of the features of a modern CMS, I recommend to them a 2-part solution such as WP+Big Cartel, WP+PayPal or WP+Shopify.
It's not a perfect solution, but I tell them that there is NO SUCH THING as a perfect solution. At some level you need to compromise.
I'm sure there are other good alternatives out there, but since I'm not an eCommerce expert I do not offer them to my clients. In my experience eCommerce has always been a big pain, so I just try to avoid it when possible. Again that's just me though.
- I agree. It's best to use WP with an outside solution for e-commerce. Less problematic.Jaline
- Some clients will want the same look and feel though, so that's when you may have to look outside of WP.Jaline
- Or just pass on the project cuz it'll be a massive headache. :)nocomply
- My one mistake in the past year was not passing it on...Jaline
- i_monk0
Switch to paper.
- manonthestreet0
Ok...wait...When one sees an upgrade button for a theme, plug in, or core wordpress code it needs to be tested before being clicked.
Anything less is idiotic.....set up a test site...or switch to paper as i_monk suggests.