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- iCanHasQBN0
i went in for a junior designer position after college 9. sat down through the entire interview process. near the end they asked me what i had in mind as far as money... i told them 45K... their jaws dropped and told me they could only offer $10/hour. i said thank you and walked out 15 seconds later.
yeah, i just spent a crapload on college so that i could slave my ass off for 10 bucks an hour. ffs.
- ru serious? you could make $10/hr working at Home Depot.fooler2
- Is 45K a realistic graduate salary in the US? I'm assuming that's where you are.Ranger
- All depends on your city and skill. i wasn't gonna sell myself short. i ended up getting more than 45K at another firm.iCanHasQBN
- Sureukit
- how sad is it that you think 45K is a lot of money. this is the problem with designers.. you undervalue you own selves.iCanHasQBN
- ...and then you wonder why employers undervalue you.iCanHasQBN
- fooler20
I was freelancing for X amount and another company wanted me full time with benefits and I asked for 75% of X. They counter offered minus 2 grand and I said no since I think I low balled myself anyway.
They came back with my full offer plus raise after 60 days then I said I would accept if I could get 2 24" studio displays and a logitech performance mouse.
- UKV0
Asking for a salary req in a job description is like asking you to tell them how dumb you are. Like they wouldn't know how much an AD or SD is worth? Good shops hire for fit, and potential for growth (creatively and leadership). The only exception I can think of would be when talking to a relocation candidate, but that should happen in person. To put it in a job description is just lazy. The other classic I have heard is "Oh my, if we paid you THAT, wouldn't be able to give you RAISES! You want RAISES dont you? Hmmm?" No, I want compensation for value delivered right now. Not later. Now.
- vaxorcist0
Salary req's as part of the job description is a red flag for me....this means to me that somebody thinks designers/developers are interchangeable, and/or the search is being influenced by non-creative types who had their own priorities....
You might ask them... are you looking for the cheapest?Well, that;'s Certainly not me....They will mutter a few things about budget..... often it means that a business oriented person is trying to keep their costs down.... they see design/dev as a cost center, not a profit center sometimes.... if so, either walk away, as this may not be the place for you, or work out a deal, where they pay you based on performance, and if you like to be in on pitches, you get a percentage of the successful business based on that pitch... that can excite sales types who like to think designers often don't care about account service/sales...
- mydo0
If you're going for a job as a manager in a factory everybody knows what it's worth and what you're worth. If you've got a set skill, and you're going to work for a large company, likewise.
Small agencies, over inflated egos (both employer and employee) make this business so difficult to judge. Like client negotiations would you just ask the budget or make an indication what you're looking for save everyone the hassle of getting it wrong.