Vendetta against Jobs...
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- refunktion0
who gives a shit... flash sucks.
- oh wait... i mean it rules.refunktion
- really ? i think it sucksspraycan
- yeah, no it was a joke... i hate it.refunktion
- inv0
I suppose apple needs to open up for silverlight and all the other shitty browser plugins then...
- hotroddy0
The fact is if ipad proves to be commercially successfull, we as developers/designers lost an alternative. Options = good. Now we're confined 'standards'. Sounds a little ominous to me.
- spraycan0
pretty sure that if Flash wasnt a proprietary technology it would be included in the Iphone.
- cannonball19780
to designers: adapt.
- spraycan0
this is why Jobs doesnt want Flash :
- spraycan0
another reasons:
- spraycan0
we dont want dirty adds on every fucking page !!
- hotroddy0
Having to design on 3-4 browsers sucks. Having to be limited to 'standards' sucks. The fact is site likes grooveshark (and every other on demand streaming service which delivers music via flash) will be cutting into APPLE's profits. Job's doesn't want 'free on demand' music delivered on his portable devices. It would devaluate his little precious 'itunes' store where he sells all his licensed goodies to his flock of sheep.
- He could just as easily so okay we'll have flash, Adobe is just going to pay us $1 for every iPhone sold with it.ismith
- spraycan0
itunes is shit
- ideaist0
Thanks to all who contributed to this thread thus far; been able to form some solid conclusions based on various insights and half truths...
; )
- ernexbcn0
This link will crash Flash, if your browser sandboxes the player if won't die with it, otherwise it will so click the link only if you don't mind losing whatever tabs you had opened:
http://flashcrash.dempsky.org/
Proof of Adobe laziness regarding their shit
- works like a charm. err, a curse. err, hex, jinx, imprecation, anathema, etc.ismith
- spraycan0
A plug-in must be installed (and updated every few months)
- spraycan0
When users see Flash, they think:
the content is probably useless and glitzy
it's likely to be an ad
it's probably not worth waiting for it to download
the webmaster that doesn't give a hoot that 1/2 the visitors never see the content
- spraycan0
A webmaster who doesn't use Flash is saying:
I have worthwhile content, and I am just going to go ahead and show it to you; right now!
- vaxorcist0
This may help flash....
it could go back to being a niche application, used where it's good, and not used as a blanket solution to stuff it's totally inappropriate for... like re-inventing the browser features badly....i.e. creating a back button and linkable URLs in a pure-flash site, etc... and/or of course the ads and intros and weirdly confusing user-interfaces some designers cook up, or perfectly kerning type for the anal-retentive print designer who doesn't get the web...
so... niche -> Flash can do some interesting motion graphics, kiosk apps, web games, stand-alone RIA's,etc....
- vaxorcist0
This may help flash....
it could go back to being a niche application, used where it's good, and not used as a blanket solution to stuff it's totally inappropriate for... like re-inventing the browser features badly....i.e. creating a back button and linkable URLs in a pure-flash site, etc... and/or of course the ads and intros and weirdly confusing user-interfaces some designers cook up, or perfectly kerning type for the anal-retentive print designer who doesn't get the web...
so... niche -> Flash can do some interesting motion graphics, kiosk apps, web games, stand-alone RIA's,etc....
- spraycan0
^ i agree.
- spraycan0
vendetta against apple for being such a bunch of fag developpers
- spraycan0
for selling their OSX wich is completely based on the noble and free operating system Free BSD.