adjusting freelance rates
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- duhsign
Anyone have any opinions on how to set a freelance rate for a temporary position with a high chance of turning into permanent?
My rates are 75$ for branding, campaign development and anything top level creatively. Standard design I charge 50$ for things like building out collateral and web based on an existing identity brand whatever. Then for pure production work I charge 25$ for anything that really doesn't require creativity.
So may be going in house with a clothing company for a temp and probable longterm and will start freelance. I was thinking go in asking for 50 an hour then negotiate the salary I want if they like me. I know there will be a lot of hours and I'll be working under an art director so probably manly supporting him. I just wonder if 50 is too high for an in-house freelance position. Any thoughts?
- bored2death0
This sounds like a conversation you should be having with the people that are going to hire you.
- Machuse0
well $50/hr runs about $120k+ a year fulltime
Would the art director be making much more than that?
- doesnotexist0
yes have this conversation with them. your numbers look good. don't be afraid to ask for more in case they bring the number down.
- effort0
it depends on the size of the company, where the job is, the type of work you'll be executing and what you bring to the table. in my experience, freelance rates are often 2x what a fulltime rate is. that said, 50/hour sounds low to me.
- bored2death0
These are my normal rates for freelance, but I'm flexible for a long term engagement. Let's discuss what you foresee for the position.
Is that so hard?
- duhsign0
well I emailed him the rates I currently charge and just said I am flexible and that we can go from there based on the type of work he needs and hours. He's running the info through his financial dept and will get back to me. Sounds good to me.
Thanks for your opinions, always appreciated.
- fyoucher10
Jesus people. 190k plus benefits.
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- duhsign0
190k sounds perfect, let me know when your hiring!
- duhsign0
190k sounds perfect, let me know when your hiring!
- monNom0
You should pick one rate and stick to it. Charging 1/3rd for production work calls into question the actual value of your time.
- era4O40
duhsign - keep it constant. none of this gradated system... we hire des/devs for an hourly, project or daily rate. Not three of each.
- duhsign0
I think if your going to ask for one rate your implying your only willing to do a certain kind of work. I'm underemployed right now and looking for opportunity so just trying to be flexible. I guess its something I need to consider a little more carefully
- Josev0
What's your level of experience?
I would ask for at least $65 an hour. If you'll be getting a lot of work out of them, will have little administrative time involved, and can get something long term then you could probably negotiate your price. Keep in mind that you live in an expensive city, you have to purchase healthcare, pay your own taxes, etc. I've read that most freelancers can only bill, on average, 25 hours a week. The rest is eaten up by management/administration.
- persona_non_grata0
so ... update?