Death of Flash
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- whatsup0
^ This is the second time I've heard this, "bringing us back to 1998" on the basis that we are not using flash. Whether we use flash or not, it doesn't really matter to the consumer, until they meet a flash website.
Ok, so at a developer's standpoint, you'd weigh out the best possible technologies, as Apple has and they made their choice. A wise decision and BTW a Green decision too. Energy savings alone gets a big thumbs up. However, if you're willing to fight the fight... what can you do in Flash that you would not be able to with HTML5 in the future?
Doing simple 3d animation between two transitioning states with HTML5 was a cinch. I've not seen this possible within Flash, and all the 3d there was not real 3d. After seeing this in HTML5, I now think that it may be possible for better games within in comparison to Flash.
The fact that a flash player updates itself more frequently in comparison to these HTML standards, still flash has to deal with spreading the update across all browsers. However, HTML5 could update as frequently as the browser updated, but there wouldn't be any need to.
I thought the open standards issue is a big thumbs up for developers. With a flash player, you're either a flash developer or not. Leaving all the others in the dust. This new direction Apple has taken pretty much opens itself to a larger developer community. If that's not a worthy goal, then what is?
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- apple fan boyspraycan
- i simply posted it because it was something i hadnt thought ofsixfngers
- i dont care what i have to develop in i can do whateversixfngers
- damn i hate breaking up comments like thissixfngers
- oops! this was @ projectilewhatsup
- BTW- @ spraycan - apple fan boy? I highly doubt that but sounds like you put alot of thinking into that thought.whatsup
- sixfngers0
http://blog.assortedgarbage.com/…
this guy brings up a valid question. if ads shift to being done in html5 + jsImagine the chaos in your ads/pages when CSS class names or element IDs conflict, or your Javascript calls an element that has the same name as one in your page/ad. The only solution will be to disable the very thing that it’s built with. So, go ahead, turn off Javascript
i edited some of the smarmyness you can read that in the link at the top
- There are aspects of reserved words used frequently amongst ad providerswhatsup
- Projectile0
http://stackoverflow.com/questio…
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When Steve J. made the comments about HTML5 being the future, he didn't bother to explain that this statement really refers to the most widespread use of Flash today, that being Video. Perhaps he didn't explain this purposely, so that many misinformed end users who want to watch Hulu on their iPhones would unleash their rage against Flash. Which is exactly what has been happening..It is annoying and I lost respect for Steve.
The HTML5 stack (html, css and JS) will NOT be a direct replacement for Flash. I have been developing Flash content for over 10 years, I am also very competent in JS. I cringe thinking about using JS for tasks where ActionScript can accomplish the same thing in 50% less code. There are tasks that will be very difficult if not impossible to achieve with JS and CSS. For rudimentary animations and JQuery-like functionality, sure, HTML5 can be a viable option instead Flash. But for complex games and RIAs, I just don't see it. Actionscript has evolved into a robust, full featured language.
The other important thing is that the Flash player is updated by Adobe periodically to address any issues that may arise. How will they update/improve HTML5 spec if it becomes the norm and Flash went bye-bye?? They won't. You have to wait for HTML6 and all the browsers to support it. Which means you end up waiting 5-10 years. Great way to bring us back to 1998. No thanks, I'll stick with Flash for now.
As much as open standards are a worthy goal, I don't see this panning out the way they are saying...
My two cents.
- ESKEMA0
Apple has updated its iPhone Developer Program License Agreement to ban use of cross compilers, according to DaringFireball.
Prior to today section 3.3.1 of the agreement said:
3.3.1 — Applications may only use Documented APIs in the manner prescribed by Apple and must not use or call any private APIs.
In the new version section 3.3.1 now reads:
3.3.1 — Applications may only use Documented APIs in the manner prescribed by Apple and must not use or call any private APIs. Applications must be originally written in Objective-C, C, C++, or JavaScript as executed by the iPhone OS WebKit engine, and only code written in C, C++, and Objective-C may compile and directly link against the Documented APIs (e.g., Applications that link to Documented APIs through an intermediary translation or compatibility layer or tool are prohibited).
Gruber indicates that this makes cross-compilers, such as the Flash-to-iPhone compiler in Adobe’s upcoming Flash Professional CS5 release, prohibited.
It could also prohibit other tools such as MonoTouch, Titanium, PhoneGap, and Unity3D.
It could hardly be more clear if they singled out Flash CS5 by name. (Wonder what Adobe does now? CS5 is this close to release and the iPhone compiler is the flagship feature in this version of Flash. They’re pretty much royally fucked.)
- GeorgesII0
lol a full 10 sites ready for the ipad eheheheh,
I'm going to build one too
- detritus0
- Whoops, wrong link - Where's my edit feature?
http://www.apple.com…detritus
- Whoops, wrong link - Where's my edit feature?
- twokids0
What apple does is take ideas that exist already and make them sexy and workable. That is a great thing. But it is not the same as inventing something. iPod is an excellent example. There were mp3 players for years before it came out, but most people think they were first.
- twokids0
So Xerox created the first GUI in the 70s and then Xerox sued Apple and then Apple sued Microsoft when they did Windows.
I am guessing that somewhere, the things Apple said they invented were actually done first elsewhere. They are really good at making their user base think they invented everything first. My guess, the suit goes nowhere.
- and why sue HTC insted of Google, HTC doesn't make android...GeorgesII
- But HTC implements the technology...Google doesn't physically make anything running Android...it's a proxy war.WrappedInBooks
- inteliboy0
"Its crazy that apple users are the only one constantly finding reasons to defend their allegiance to a brand that keep on screwing them"
How has Apple ever screwed me?
Man some bs is thrown around when it comes to Apple.
- rams at x 10000 times the market price, $1000 = €1000 = £1000, etc, etc.... just know your comp and you'll see where you're getting itGeorgesII
- you're getting screwedGeorgesII
- yes because the Adobe CS4 MC = 2499$ = 2545£ = 3,272.40€.
much better...ESKEMA - so? i never understand why people give a crap about how I spend my money.inteliboy
- and the overpricing thing can be debated anyway... not that it will get anywhere.inteliboy
- GeorgesII0
seriously fuck apple for suing HTC instead of Google for software patent infringement, I bet for a company that shamelessly copied u.i to get where its at, it is ironic
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Really microsapple,
"Unlocking A Device By Performing Gestures On An Unlock Image"
"Object-Oriented Graphic System"
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http://www.appleinsider.com/arti…
- jimzy0
flix?
- spraycan0
bad new for flash !!
- detritus0
- Whats this.
http://www.virginame…pillhead - It's Flash.detritus
- "the Jesus phone"!twokids
- Whats this.
- GeorgesII0
Its crazy that apple users are the only one constantly finding reasons to defend their allegiance to a brand that keep on screwing them,
its the abusive husband paradigm x 1000
- yeah. loyalty beyond reason....why? hard to say.twokids
- haha well said, my man!!!Projectile
- must_dash0
Good to see Adobe suddenly have something to worry about... Not sure why everyone is going on about HTML5, as jQuery is more powerful at the moment.
- JQuery and HTML5 are not comparable like that LOLquantelpaintbox
- one is scripting one is markupquantelpaintbox
- They are comparable as both are alternatives to Flash, but will be used in conjunction in the future, but not yet. LOLmust_dash
- quantelpaintbox0
Looks like Apple managed to bully Adobe into finally getting off their arses with their piece of shit plugin
- ...or, you have no fucking clue.rounce
- I have a clue that it runs like fucking shit till recentlyquantelpaintbox
- Peter0
Allow me to meddle
Flash AND html 5: now one money-making project of yours can be made into two.